Generations: Superion & Menasor (1st Photos)

I like them. What do you think is the purpose of the gestalt hands transforming into feet and vice versa? I'm thinking that each limb comes with a larger weapon (akin to the ones that came with the original Stunticons, Streetwise and First Aid for example) that can also transform into a hand or foot.

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

What do you think is the purpose of the gestalt hands transforming into feet and vice versa?

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It's for the Scramble-City play pattern ;):):

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Interesting points to note:

• Combiners will be comprised of:
  
  • 1x Voyager torso.
  • 4x Deluxe limbs.
  • 1x Legends figure forming a Gun for Superion & the Chestplate for Menasor.
  • 6x Figures in total, each.
• Each limb will come with a detached, identical Fist/Foot/Alt-mode Gun "Appendage" component that converts for the desired purpose (Scramble City enabling?).
• Each Team/Combiner has unique "Appendage" components.

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Looking at the little purple weapon that comes with Blackjack, that seems to always end up on Menasor's chest in every pic, I have a hunch that weapon is supposed to form the Hilt of Menasor's sword. ;):)

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Looking at the little purple weapon that comes with Blackjack, that seems to always end up on Menasor's chest in every pic, I have a hunch that weapon is supposed to form the Hilt of Menasor's sword. ;):)

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that would have been the ideal way to go, but it looks like where you would plug the blade into the hilt is too small... and i can't see a hole for it either.

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Originally Posted by swoop

I don't understand why Hasbro felt the need to change slingshot and wildriders alt modes. I get that they probably don't want 4 jets in one wave and 4 sports cars in another but if they split 2 jets and 2 cars to a wave it wouldn't be a problem.

A helicopter just looks and feels wrong amongst those jets. I can forgive the less than perfect combined mode, I understand they have budget restrictions that prevent them from making these perfect like I'm sure their designers are capable off but there is no excuse for making slingshot a helicopter. At least his robot mode looks good, I'm loving those wrist missiles.

I don't get why they changed wildrider to the off-road truck, they already made brakedown a truck in Prime and his constructbot toy is a truck. Since they felt the need to change one of the stunticons alt modes why not continue the trend and make brakedown the truck.

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This annoys the heck out of me as well but overall, colour me impressed.

I'm liking the Aerialbots more as their bot modes are more ringers to their G1 character models. The Stunticons are kinda awful in this department. Drag Strip and Dead End especially.

I don't mind the changed alt modes too much. I just think Breakdown would be the better candidate considering his alt mode in TFPrime.

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Originally Posted by swoop

I don't understand why Hasbro felt the need to change slingshot and wildriders alt modes. I get that they probably don't want 4 jets in one wave and 4 sports cars in another but if they split 2 jets and 2 cars to a wave it wouldn't be a problem.

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The problem with splitting waves for gestalts is uneven distribution. I know you remember Energon, where some people had two-limbed giant robots for about a year, and others never completed their Maximus toys.

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

The problem with splitting waves for gestalts is uneven distribution. I know you remember Energon, where some people had two-limbed giant robots for about a year, and others never completed their Maximus toys.

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They are splitting them over multiple waves tho -

o Deluxe wave 1
• Firefly
• Skydive
• Alpha Bravo (Slingshot)
• Dragstrip

o Deluxe wave 2
• Air Raid
• Dead End
• Breakdown
• Offroad (Wildrider – an off road truck)

o Voyager wave 1
• Silverbolt
• Optimus Prime (combiner compatible, artwork shown)

o Voyager wave 2
• Motormaster

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

I know you remember Energon

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Some of us are still trying to forget Energon.

They look pretty good but not as good as the 3rd party combiners. What happened to Slingshot and Wildrider?

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Originally Posted by Tober

They are splitting them over multiple waves tho -

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Oh. Well in that case, screw you, Hasblow! :p;)

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Originally Posted by Tober

Some of us are still trying to forget Energon.

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LOL. :cool:

That's a big improvement alright, Hasbro finally give the fans some proper classics combiners. I love the head sculpts on the individual bots, they have certainly outdone the 3rd parties on G1 accuracy there. Having said that I'm saddened we are getting these toys during a period of significant quality decline, feels like they could have been even more three or four years ago.

They do look nice though, but I seriously doubt that I will be retiring my 3p combiners, the quality gaps got too big, though I will likely still grab some of these guys. Blackjack for sure, Micromasters FTW!

And look forward to G2 repaints. :P