no PC version pretty much leaves me out in the cold on this one. I hoppe they are just creating tension or something...
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no PC version pretty much leaves me out in the cold on this one. I hoppe they are just creating tension or something...
Gameinformer.com has posted yet another article, doing an excellent job guys ;), in the form of a 35min - Roundtable Discussion video with regards to the gameplay of the upcoming Transformers: Fall of Cybertron game. :eek::cool:
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Game Informer editors Matt Miller and Ben Reeves sat down in the conference room at High Moon Studios with game director Matt Tieger and lead programmer Andrew Zaferakis for a casual conversation about the most interesting gameplay additions to Transformers: Fall of Cybertron.
Gameinformer.com would also like to remind readers that:
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If you have any remaining questions, feel free to submit them for the upcoming Transformers podcast with Matt Tieger.
Pic Mirrored Courtesy of Gameinformer.com:
^ Note in Hursti's pic above is the alt mode for a yellow decepticon some thought was Dragstrip.
I don't know Deo, that yellow character in the pic above looks quite a lot like WFC Bumblebee to me :o; where was it noted that there was a yellow Decepticon dude?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deonasis
Gameinformer.com's latest addition to their coverage of the upcoming game Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, is in the format of a Special Edition Podcast; in which High Moon Studios game director, Matt Tieger, answers some fan submitted questions on their successor to the very popular Transformers: War for Cybertron game.
Click here to listen in. :cool:
In the podcast in the 36:50 mark, Matt Tieger absolutely and definitively confirms that there won't be a PC version.
Looks like that's it for my following of this game since I won't be able to play it :(
Sorry Hursti, I meant the *tiny* bit of art directly below the wooden beam. It is very small but is yellow and has the purple highlights of the Decepticons. It is still a fairly clear image if you zoom in on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
It is indeed a disappointing confirmation but at least it was an honestly explained and very understandable reason; of which I commend Matt Tieger in doing as a lot of developers would simply keep consumers in the dark until a month before release. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
For High Moon Studios personally, they simply do not have a unit/division/resources that are able to provide the proper levels of support that is required for the game on a PC/Mac platform. The other reason being that for their ability to achieve the best result possible for the budget they have, they simply must invest their funds and resources towards development on the systems that are going to provide the most unified and stable platforms for operation that'll require the least amount of heavy long term support.
This unfortunately leaves PC based fans high end dry but it is through no fault of High Moon Studios or the End User, but an industry trend that is being felt across the board. To anyone who plays PC games or at least monitors the PC Gaming industry, this'll be of very little surprise really as a very large amount of developers are starting to take the route of targeted and specific platform investment; focusing development nigh totally towards 1 or the other, PC or Console, depending on where the particular project is likely to make the largest return and if budget permits? - Maybe a port is produced, which 8 times out of 10 aren't worth the disc they're pressed on or the electricity they're downloaded via. :(
I'll still be following this game's development regardless however because if a game was ever to convince me to purchase a PS3, it'd be a Transformers game and this particular Transformers game I feel is being developed by an incredibly talented and dedicated company that is only trying to benefit gamers and TF fans alike. :cool:
Ah... Yes!, I see what you mean now dude; I think that could very well be Dragstrip indeed, which is an interesting premise as it begs the question:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deonasis
- With the revelation that we will see Bruticus and the Combaticons in TF: FOC, are we possibly going to see other Combiners? :eek:
Does this mean there will be little to no patches and map/character packs? Because that would suck. I loved the new maps and characters that came out months after the game release. Keeps the multiplayer fresh, which was a great part of WFC. I really hope they put some more focus into multiplayer as that's what KEPT me playing after I'd ran through the story a few times.
Rest assured that that is all coming dude, my comments above were focussed at PC and not console. ;):)Quote:
Originally Posted by theheretic
Do have a listen of the Podcast, it's 55mins long and I apologise as I'm not sure exactly at what time points it's mentioned but :o, everything you're curious about is mentioned within it and I think you'll come away with some rather big smiles. :cool:
My bad. I haven't listened to it because I'm on holidays and spending all day at the beach(not that I'm rubbing it in or anything). I need a break down or minutes of it.
Hursty, where are you getting this information? The PC gaming platform is actually going through a bit of a 'golden age' with many awesome game releases. As far as I know, this is the only multi-platform game not getting a PC release. Most high profile games get a PC release like Arkham City.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Too many awesome games to list and sometimes to play are being released and when it comes to multi-port games the PC release usually ends up being the best of them all. I don't know what methods you use to 'monitor' the PC industry but it certainly not matching what I experience as a dedicate PC gamer.
Why am I hesitant to buy a console to play Fall for Cybertron? Because I don't think it is worth buying a $400 console to play ONE game. The PC accommodates me for all others and more.
Oh they will be there for sure. That seem to be the technique for games now. Sell the game at a high price, then leave bits it and sell mroe of it later....Quote:
Originally Posted by theheretic
I am not jaded at all.:p
My own sights and experience really, that and I've noticed a growing opinion from a number of developers (Notably my resident PC god: John Carmack :p) that they're getting rather frustrated with programming for the PC as compared to a Console; in that the amount of crap one has to try and code for, like: O/S, Graphics & Sound Drivers and widely varied Hardware Make-ups that comprise PCs, compared to that of standardised and never changing hardware setups and O/Ss like that of with consoles. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
(Checkout John's Quakecon 2011 keynote, mind you it's 1.5hrs or so long :p)
That being said though, and as I mentioned, those that are solely coding for the PC are doing amazing things; I wouldn't necessarily call it a golden age but there certainly are a number of PC only games that are amazing like WoW, Starcraft 2, L4D but I'm looking forward to playing things like Rage and Diablo III for instance... oh and Doom 4! (When it's done ;):D)
(Holy crap can I not wait for Diablo III and Rage! :D)
Sure, there are some AAA titles that have been successfully ported to the PC like Batman: Arkum Asylum/City, BF3 & COD (Though these started life out on PC I'd debate whether their focus nowadays) and Darksiders, but there are quite a number of comparatively depressing ports like Spider Man: Web of Shadows and GTA IV as well as games that should've seen a PC release but didn't like Red Dead Redemption and obviously TF: FoC. :o
Personally, I hate ports as they're too hit and miss unless significant resources are thrown their way to make them glisten, BF/CoD & Portal 2, but bad ports swing both ways as not every PC port to a console survives the the trip either. :p
Don't worry man, I'm hesitant too but if I were to get a current gen concole then the decision would be helped with things like TF: FoC, TF: Prime on Bluray, GoW, GTAIV & V, Uncharted... there are plenty of games but yeah, I wouldn't buy one simply for a single game either. ;):)Quote:
Why am I hesitant to buy a console to play Fall for Cybertron? Because I don't think it is worth buying a $400 console to play ONE game. The PC accommodates me for all others and more.
(Unless TF: FoC turns out to be the best game ever, but nothing will top this in my mind. :cool:)
Arghh, you are driving me bonkers Hursti! :D A while ago only the robot mode was shown in a small blurry image, people debated who it was, and some thought it was Dragstrip (and it could have been it was that hard to tell). If you hold down "Ctrl" and press "+" on your keyboard the screen will zoom in, repeat this until the screen doesn't zoom in any more, then look at the image. I would say it looks more like a Warthog from the Halo games with a big gun on top. It is not a big surprise, it is concept art for a character known to be in the game already and I was only saying the tiny picture on the wall rules out that this character could be Dragstrip. My guess is we will only see 1 combiner :( Still should be super sweet though! :cool: Halo, GoW and Mass Effect are also great games ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
I doubt I'll be playing this game, given there is no PC version. While in theory if it were the most awesome thing ever maybe I'd think about it when the consoles were on sale, but I haven't owned one or even desired to own one for years.
The bottom line is, console gaming doesn't really seem to suit my style, and there are other things I'd prefer to invest my leisure funds in.
I would still like to see a game based Grimlock toy though.
Not sure about other combiners, but we already had Stunticons (Breakdown, Dead End), Aerialbots (Skydive, Silverbolt) and Combaticons (Onslaught) in WFC... so having Dragstrip and other members of these "special teams" in FoC wouldn't be that big a deal. It'll just have fans assuming that they are there to combine, and then complain if only the Combaticons do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Hursty, I am afraid that I disagree much with what you have said there. We seem to be completely different sort of gamers. I am with Zed in which that the typical console games don't really hold much appeal to me but to give you an idea on how much we differ:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
John Carmack - 'Gaming god' is too much of an over statement for me. ID hasn't really produced a good game in a very long time with most of their releases since Doom 3 being nothing more than Graphics Engine demonstrations with very generic gameplay. Even so, it's been several years (approaching 10?) since we have seen anything revolutionary from him. His name does resonate in PC gaming history but I can't say that his name means much to me nowadays when it comes to contemporary games.
Diablo III, WoW, SC2 and other Blizzard games - I have been disliking Blizzard since WoW despite it's popularity as I think it is one of the most mindless games ever. Ever since WoW, Blizzard has failed to have the same impact with me as it once did and this is coming from a once Super mega hardcore Blizzard fan! You look at my storage and it's packed with Blizzard action figures, Game of the year and special editions of Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo, etc along with novels, comic books, etc!
Now, I couldn't give two s**ts about Blizzard. I have monumental hatred for Wow and Starcraft 2 was just Starcraft 1 with better graphics (and not that great to begin with). Diablo III just looks like a piece of crap when compared to contemporary RPG games like Dragon Age which blows it out of the water and into space by what I have seen so far.
I no longer have the same confidence in neither Blizzard nor John Carmack. To me they are kind of like the 'Speilberg' or 'Lucas' of the gaming world. They were once great but I can't say I care for their stuff any more.
The other games you mentioned I don't really care about and most of them end up with a PC port at some stage anyways.
To me, I am playing more PC games that I can handle. Every time I am finished with one, 2 pop up which I really want to play and they are not just ok games but fantastic ones. So to me there is a golden age but that is possibly due to the fact that we seem to be completely different type of gamers.
Going OT here I think, but umm yeah none of the games other than Arkham Asylum and GTA IV that Hursti mentioned have ever been on my radar.
And I played the GTA IV port considered inferior to the console version all the way through and only had one issue, so If this is the sort of bad port we are talking about then I'm not overly fussed.
I've never followed gaming history closely, so I make no claims of gaming renaissances or the like, all I know is since buying my new PC I have picked up more enjoyable and high quality games (cheaply too) then I have allotted time to play.
Boy am I at the opposite end of the scale from you Kup, I enjoy playing wow and have pre-ordered Diablo 3. I prefer Console gaming in general as there is less stuffing around to play the game. Some games don't even work properly until you have stuffed around with the settings, Pain in the backside when that happens. Each to their own, Even if this game was released on PC I'd take a console version over a PC version any day.
+1 except for the WOW partQuote:
Originally Posted by 1orion2many
See but, I'm not a gamer. But I would like to play FOC cos ya know, it's Transformers (although I still find playing with the toys to be much more fun, but I don't mind playing the games either).Quote:
Originally Posted by 1orion2many
So the frustrating thing is... I'd have to buy a console for the sole purpose of playing FOC because I have no intention of buying any other game. Even if I did, I know I'd play them a few times then forget about them. I bought a Wii with a stack of games a few years back - played with it for one summer, then since then I've never touched it. :(
I dunno... I might sell my Wii & games and buy myself a PS3... that way I can play FOC and have a Blu Ray player at the same time. Just as well I don't have a Blu Ray player yet...
I may wait some years when an Xbox360 or PS3 emulator gets created and refined for the PC. Then I may play Fall of Cybertron.
There was a down turn some years back in where it seemed that all that was being released for PC were generic FPS clones. It got really boring and that was the closest I came to either consider buying a console or abandoning the gaming scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
Now, as you mentioned, there are more games that I can play and really good ones too on the PC. Games on the consoles that appeal to me? Not so much.
So for people in my situation or similar who do want to play Fall of Cybertron - Is it worth forking out the $400 for a console to play one game? I may wait some time for an emulator as mentioned or when the next gen consoles come out and the old ones go on clearance - Not sure as by then I may not really care at all.
As mentioned, I prefer the PC to a console but putting aside the gaming, I also prefer it from the technical side of it. To install a game on a PC it takes just a bout as much time as installing it on a console and on top of that if something does go wrong with the PC, (assuming you have the knowhow) it is very easy to fix with parts readily and cheaply available if needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1orion2many
The consoles are not without their problems either with the Rings of death and Yellow Lights of doom and they seem to crash just as much as a PC does since their architecture are beginning to resemble one more and more. Given how much stuff there is on console technical faults on line, the problems do not seem to be uncommon with the difference being that a PC can be easily diagnosed and fixed while a console may need go back to the manufacturer with a heavy repair bill.
@Kup: I'm happy to agree to disagree dude :), I don't want to argue as we clearly have different takes/focuses on the PC industry and what we like to play but regardless to our differences we both support the superior platform. ;):D
(A very good point about the PS3 Emulator too, though I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long :p)
I like consoles, but I'll favour a PC almost every time which is why I share in everyone's disappointment on a lack of a PC release but I am also not entirely surprised by the decision that's been made either. :o
Still, I don't feel we should come down on those who're making this game as they are fans themselves and it is to their credit that they are doing their best to make the best Transformers game they possibly can, for as many fans and gamers as they possibly can. :cool:
One thing we can all agree on though... "I wanna Space T-Rex Toy!" :D
You need to install games on consoles now?!? I thought they were just instant play... :( Man... last night I had a dream that someone got themselves an original 8-Bit Nintendo Famicom... heh.
I'm still rockin' my Megadrive man, not too far behind. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Yeah, current gen consoles except the Wii utilise HDDs for faster loading and freeing up other memory resources; they're pretty much cut-down proprietary PCs nowadays. :rolleyes::p
Download an Emulator and start playing now! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I was a Nintendo fan boy back in the day from the NES to the N64. That's when I left the console scene and went exclusively to PC (although I was still playing PC games during my console phase).
You don't need to, no. There's no reason not to install them though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Some you have to, like WFC for example.... 25 mins... Wow.
Most of the time, I like the install as it cuts down load times greatly, especially in Street fighter, MK, etc.
Looking forward to this now that I have a console again
well the main point is to actually reduce the wear on the laser. but yeah consoles are becoming more like plug and play pcs.
as for a ps3/360 emulator i doubt it'll ever be viable soon enough to care. I just had a look at the ps2 emulators and they're still being worked on...
at the moment, i have seen news of target reducing their 120gb ps3 to clear for $200 (which promptly have sold out) and so I wouldn't be surprised at a similar price this coming xmas sale.
in my opinion its getting very affordable to purchase a ps3 (screw 360) these days. i paid $135 for jetwing prime and much more $$$ for the FP insecticons and the TFC Hercules figures...
Lol, who cares, they are basically the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiden
I dunno about the PS3, but installing games on the 360 is a totally optional thing. Some Xbox360s don't have hard drives!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
A lot of games have optional installs, but for Ps3 owners there wasn't for WFC or DOTM. DOTM's wasn't half as bad a wait as WFC's that's for sure. All PS3s come with harddrives and I think that is the reason why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickstrike
Courtesy of Seibertron.com, Activision has just announced that the first Full Reveal Trailer for the upcoming Transformers: Fall of Cybertron game by the awesome team at High Moon Studios, will be debuting at the Spike-TV Video Gaming Awards show on the 10th of December 2011 (The 11th for we here in Aus ;)). :eek:
The Teaser for the full trailer has been posted up (if it hasn't already been mentioned in this topic).
Looking forward to the full trailer in a nine days time.
I can't wait for FOC! Why are they teasing me like this?! On the plus side I've been playing WFC team deathmatch a lot lately. Nothing beats a shooter where you can transform.
Some new pics (17/01/12) have just been posted over at IGN.com, I've mirrored some lower-res versions here:
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Oh man, I can tell that seeker mission is going to be all kinds of awesome just by looking at that one screenshot! :cool: Thanks for the update Hursti, do we know when it's due out yet perchance?
No probs man; no firm date has been announced yet, rest assured I'll make it known when it's announced though. ;):cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doubledealer
(I SO want this game already too :p)