And the EVA version... lol I smell a boycott coming on! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
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And the EVA version... lol I smell a boycott coming on! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
The stupid thing is, instead of lowering the cost on future MPs, I bet they will produce smaller numbers and raise the cost even more. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzman
https://media1.tenor.com/images/7214...temid=12115214
That's a bloody outrage it is! I'm taking this all the way to the prime minister!!! Hey, Mr Prime Minister.......AAAAAANNNNDDDYYYYYY!!!
They really are going the way of P2W and milking the heck out of all their whales
EDIT: Also that price equates to roughly $600 AUD which is nearly triple the price of MP-10. Ha ha ha ha, nice try TT
Lol what??Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Lots of people cared about the price increase of megs and sunstreaker
Is anyone still holding onto a small glimmer of hope that the price will still be 25,000 Yen?
This better be the the best Prime ever. With Blackjack and Hook.
Don't people realise this is the Good Bye Convoy giftset. The Good Bye Megatron giftset is about to be announced any day now.
I remember that whole Dinobot pricing saga... with people thinking that it had to be a case price, but ended up being it's unit price.
Unfortunately, with it's success (it sold out pretty much everywhere), prices went up on future MP toys because they saw that the fandom was willing to pay a premium on them.
As such, I still haven't bought MP Dinobot or pre-ordered MP Beast Megatron, because the actual toys just don't justify those obscene prices. I may be willing to pay excessive amounts for a one-off loose end, but not for multiple items in a series.
And as people are saying, this new MP Optimus would never see a Western retailer at that price (about AU$625)... or even at half that price. The JP import of MP10 in Australia at ToysRUs in 2015 was $400, and it had to be heavily discounted before it started selling (because you could still import one from Japan for half that).
I'm wondering whether Hasbro will even release this given the demise of Toys R Us? Perhaps through Walmart or Amazon?
Here's the thing though... people are wanting a new MP Convoy at the same level of engineering as more recent MPs like Ironhide, Inferno, MP36 etc. You know that when you jump the tech level up that it's going to cost more.
MP10 was nearly twice the price of MP01
MP36 was about double the price of MP05
MP Sunstreaker was about double the price of MP Lambor
...etc
So it should come as little surprise that MP Convoy Mk 3 would be about double the price of MP10 (x2.27 to be precise).
Is the toy worth it? I honestly don't know. It depends on whether or not the toy's design and engineering can justify it. It's not so much the price but value for money. The MP Coneheads are examples of really poor value for money, and IMO MP9 was also not great. But you look at toys like MP36 and MP Sunstreaker, both pretty expensive toys. But I'd say that most people would agree that they are worth what you pay. MP36 is twice the price of MP5 because it's twice as good. MP Sunstreaker is about twice as good as MP Lambor. So if MP Convoy Mk 3 can be about twice as good as MP10 then it could be said that it's worth its asking price.
Or it could be like MP9 or the MP Coneheads and be rip offs. The difference is that MP9 and the Coneheads are the only MP toys of those characters (well, until Hasbro offered a cheaper MP Rodimus Prime sans trailer). MP Convoy Mk 3 is not the only game in town. We have MP01 and MP10. So really... if this toy is too much for you, then just stick with your existing MP Convoys! That's what I'm planning on doing. I don't need a third MP Convoy. :o
P.S.: There's a chance that this toy might shelfwarm, encouraging retailers to slash prices to move dead stock later. ;)
Details coming through;
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MP44 Optimus Prime Master Convoy (Optimus Prime) Version 3. Official price 50,000 yen / box, 2 boxes /
box, content:
- main body X1 (Bot)
- compartment X1 (trailer)
- cabin anti-aircraft gun X1
- small ball X1
- energy axe X1
- beam special effects X2
- laser rifle X1
- energy treasure X1
- energy supply tube X1
- Spike X1
- Carly X1
- Spike Pula (Sparkplug) X1,
- Rocket Backpack X1,
- Starscream Head X1,
- Starscream Wings Accessories X1,
- An Unknown Item X1,
- Replacement Head Carving X1,
- War Damage Head X1,
- Battle Damage Chest Parts X1,
- character card X1
The small ball has to be a basketball from when the Autobots played it in The Master Builders. It's nice they're including the Jetpack this time around, shame they never bothered to ever include one in any release of Sideswipe
That's generally not how technology works. The prices of TV's, Computers, Cars etc have not doubled in price as technology has greatly improved. They generally stay around the same price. The main difference here is that those products are super competitive whereas Masterpiece Transformers face little competition and so Takara is exercising pricing power. The market will determine whether it will accept this.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I agree it could shelfwarm depending on the production run. I'm thinking I'll pre-order one and wait to see if it goes on sale before grabbing a double to display. If it sells well you know there will be a reissue at some point.
Oh, is it time for Takara Tomy's patented pre-release MP price hike panic again!
Yup sounds like it might be ridiculously expensive, however as we still lack official confirmation, I rather think everyone is losing their minds prematurely.
At least wait for confirmation before it's time...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzybAS7zltE
Assuming that is the correct price then I agree with your assessment, however by my recollection we did go through this with MP Sunstreaker, Dinobot, Rodimus Prime, All three Coneheads, Megatron V2, the repaint, the Shockwave repaint, and the most recent Beast Wars toys.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Honestly it seems like this happens more often then not, I'm not defending their prices, but I'm surprised that people are shocked every time the prices go up.
TFSource has a preorder up for US$450:
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-...optimus-prime/
And also at BBTS for the same price:
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...nDetails/84183
With 6 months to save I can totally afford him. But at this point I don't think I will buy him on the grounds of this is a massive amount of overcharging that's going on here.
As expected, it'll come with damaged parts to go with mp36, didn't expect the starscream parts to recreate that *one* scene from g1.Quote:
Originally Posted by danny-boy
Now I need to await the gimmick features, I'm certain it'll have a voice box like mp36 (its back looks like it has speaker holes) but it'll be built in, worth the 50,000yen though?
I don't think so and will be awaiting either a sale or some crazy repaint, another dead optimus would be a fine redeco if only so my mp10, mp10B and mp01L can have a unique place
Another thing about ridiculous pricing hiking each time is that they are making it harder for fans to purchase them.
The problem isn't the engineering may not be worth the cost (I have nothing but praise for Sunstreaker, Megatron and Dinobot), the problem is that if you keep increasing engineering and adding more and more accessories then costs will creep out of more people's range. There will still be lots of people that have the money that can afford this $500 Prime but logically it will be less than MP-10.
So what about all the fans with smaller pockets but still want a cartoon accurate Convoy? Takara is leaving them in the dust.
So you know who will win here? 3P. There are two 3P cartoon Convoys in development at over half the price. I'm not saying that I'm interested in them but there would be people that will give them a chance simply because they can't afford MP-43.
I'd want one, but not at that price. And a 3P cartoon accurate Prime? Yea nah, I'd rather buy official. Just not at it's current rumoured price. Down to about 250 amd I'd think about it.
When looking at prices in retrospect, remember that MP-01 did not come with a trailer so you were getting more with MP-10. Then again, they may have priced it lower knowing that they were going to reuse the mold over and over for all the repaints.
The description above shows that this version has a lot more in it than MP-10 did, much more than MP-01. Does it justify the price tag? Probably not. That is an obscene amount of money for what is effectively a toy. However, even if it is a toy there is a passionate fan base and a lot of collectors (myself included) just must have them all. I will no doubt pre-order one but will be annoyed if when I obtain it I feel that it was not worth near the price I paid.
Then there's the KO market. There's already many people in the fan base who go KO because they want MPs but can't justify the pricetag. You can bet that KO makers will KO this at a crazily low price and that even more people than normal will buy the KO.Quote:
Originally Posted by FruitBuyer
Takara really is cutting its own throat here.
I’m defo going to get it. Those accessories look mint!
You can probably do what most ppl do with mezco and hot toys by selling the accessories and just keeping the main body/parts/trailer. Some of those assecories would sell for a bit (jetpack, starscream head/wings, battle damaged head/chest).
I anticipated this would be highly priced (~500) due to the trailer, recent mp trend,
and this is the 35th anniversary Optimus Prime Figure (1984 g1 release).
I do recall mp-10 being stupid expensive at the time cos we were at 70ish jpy exchange rate.
It’ll sting at first but it’s better than the aftermarket sting like Eva prime/dinobot.
I’d never consider a k.o due to ethics and it would be hard to offload later during any unforeseen budget needs.
I was like that a few years ago. With the attitude I MUST have them. These days they’re just toys albeit expensive ones. I have no problems passing these up. I know that many don’t share my view but they are just blobs of plastic with intelligent engineering designs. They end up collecting dust on my collection shelves. I don’t play with my toys. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
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Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
I'm going to be watching from a safe distance as Convoy version 4.0 summits US$1k by around 2027.Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
Looking forward to MP hound sitting around $400 :p
I’ll probably just do what daptodog is doing and pre order one then hopefully wait for a sale to grab the 2nd. But I was thinking when mp-36 was being released everyone complained about the price hike, but when it released it was sold out everywhere and a lot of people missed out. Then the re-issue happened and the price had gone up to close to $300 in some cases.
So I might just pre order 2 and deal with it.
I’d imagine this would be somewhere between sunstreaker and the diaclone repaint. Anymore and they are basically just scalping the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by graza78
For a trip down memory lane, the conversation regarding MP-36 price started around here:
http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showth...gatron&page=18
I think there was less discussion around MP-36’s price, most people were worried about the legality of getting it. It’s also a little sad to see how many people jumped on the PC preorder and ended up with nothing.
TT have completely ballsed up the promotion/handling of MP-44. Most things we know about the figure have been through leaks or third parties. The only things we’ve seen have been uncoloured prototypes. No mention of die cast parts, rubber wheels or paint apps. All we have is a $600 price tag with none of the reasons, other than engineering, to justify it. I eagerly await more details but it has gone from “shut up and take my money” to “convince me why I should fork out for this”.
I agree there is no point staring at a 50000 yen box in plastic wrap ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Galvatran
May i should just start collecting MP boxes...
Ah who cares about that crapola :D:D:D .........Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
OH DEAR GOD NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzman
Yeah, I have no interest in the BAPEs, as you're just paying for a brand name and advertising (and I have no interest in that type of street wear).Quote:
Originally Posted by valkyrie_76
The price one will go for will be interesting though, maybe it'll surpass the 1K mark.
This will be the first time I’ve ever said this but I believe I’m going to wait for the KO. I cannot, under any circumstance, justify $600 for a toy. I have one non TF item in my collection that I paid more than that for, but my financial situation was radically different to what it is now. Plus I’m now a little older and wiser.
And it’s not like my MP-10 will cease to exist when this is released.
$615 at best with currency exchange excluding shipping and gst.
This is no where near a deluxe dx chogokin mazinger where include hangar and interior mechanics all well painted and metal and actually cost less.
Mind you is an unbelievable price I will not be supporting. Is a shame as I didn’t like the 3ps and I would buy this but at the asking price, I guess I am out.
Especially when I open a Fanstoys quietus and the quality exceeds even Bandai toys. TT is no where near it.
I skipped MP Dinobot and BW Megatron because of the price so yeah..... nah.
It'd be interesting if Hasbro released this figure just as the cab robot with the human figurines, and skipped the trailer and other accessories but sold it at a much cheaper price.
Similar to what they did with MP Rodimus Prime.
I've always wondered if the "brand unification" had anything to do TT's recent cash-grabbing moves. TT no longer have localized versions of the Hasbro figures that were arguably better/more catered to the Japanese market. Maybe by the time the TT versions come out in Japan a lot of collectors have already imported the Hasbro version since now there's no difference anymore. And maybe TT's share in sales of their logo-branded figures sold all over the world still doesn't justify the loss in domestic sales..
Hopefully we'll see painted prototypes at Tokoy Comic Con this weekend, and stock photos to follow. Then I'll see if it's worth getting.
There is the recent g1 metacolle they released of optimus megatron and bumblebee, can't transform but IMO better sculpts :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FruitBuyer
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...nDetails/84183
https://i.imgur.com/6LVAi8Q.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/BN3uMnl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gwUJPpB.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/bFIdUa2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VsXOkz8.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/P90OCWy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/93SVMEX.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/j2jVWq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/he0P4Ph.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0QDNxup.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/v2HTWgL.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/lqdEv8Q.jpg
Whilst it does look downright gorgeous, just not the $500+ price tag.
Sweet Jesus that’s the best looking Transfomer figure that’s ever been created. I’m buying 2.