Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

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Originally Posted by Bidoofdude

Thanks. Keeping my eye on it. Hopefully I can steal this one for low.

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Did you win it? :)

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Some more questions on these items:
What is the 'C' designation in C-310?
Were the Japanese original sold seperately? I'm seeing C-307, C-309.

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C- Cybertron
D - Destron

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Thanks heaps Krayt & Gok. :)

I went ahead & bought a Japanese C-310 God Ginrai reissue several days ago. I already have the Hasbro Optimus with Apex armour and wanted to know the differences.


Some more questions on these items:
What is the 'C' designation in C-310?
Were the Japanese original sold seperately? I'm seeing C-307, C-309.

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Glad to help....

Autobot = Cybertron = C-XXX
Decepticon = Destron = D-XXX

In japan most figures were released as singles, and also as a "Team", so combiners would have 1 to 5 in sequence, then the 6th as the combiner itself for the giftpack. This continues on for things like the Powermaster Jets, Ginrai and Godbomber, Star Sabre and Victory Leo, etc etc.

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Were the Japanese original sold seperately? I'm seeing C-307, C-309.

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Many Japanese 'combiners' were sold as individuals and as giftsets. C-307 is the Japanese equivalent of Powermaster Optimus Prime. C-309 is the Godbomber trailer. C-310 is both together.

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

Did you win it? :)

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Beaten by 50c. :(

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

C- Cybertron
D - Destron

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Originally Posted by Krayt

*snip*
Autobot = Cybertron = C-XXX
Decepticon = Destron = D-XXX
*snip*

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Ah dohhhhh. *slaps forehead*

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Ah dohhhhh. *slaps forehead*

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It's pretty obvious when you see it spelled out but I learned something new today too.

Well if your new to this you need an extra piece of info...

the C/D system only started in the thirdyear of toys, so the 1984/85 (85/86 in japan) series are 1-50 (or so) 84 Cybertrons first, then 84 Destrons, and repeat....

EHobby reissues and exclusives have recently fleshed out 50 to 100 quite a bit...

Then for the 86 toyline, both C and D started at 50

The 200's barely exist, all the Pretenders, 300's are the Non-Pretenders from Masterforce onwards.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/List_of_Japan...m_Transformers

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Originally Posted by Krayt

Well if your new to this you need an extra piece of info...

the C/D system only started in the thirdyear of toys, so the 1984/85 (85/86 in japan) series are 1-50 (or so) 84 Cybertrons first, then 84 Destrons, and repeat....

EHobby reissues and exclusives have recently fleshed out 50 to 100 quite a bit...

Then for the 86 toyline, both C and D started at 50

The 200's barely exist, all the Pretenders, 300's are the Non-Pretenders from Masterforce onwards.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/List_of_Japan...m_Transformers

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That's really handy.

I've always thought to myself why Dirge, Ironhide & Ratchet were relatively low down the numbering system (#97, 98 & 99 respectively) when they were popular G1 characters. And the way Ironhhide was killed off in the G1 movie still brings a tear to my eye.

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Originally Posted by Megatran

That's really handy.

I've always thought to myself why Dirge, Ironhide & Ratchet were relatively low down the numbering system (#97, 98 & 99 respectively) when they were popular G1 characters. And the way Ironhhide was killed off in the G1 movie still brings a tear to my eye.

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Ironhide wasn't released in Japan until 2001, and Ratchet and Dirge were only mailaways (again, until 2001. Although I guess Ratchet and Ironhide were still technically just mailaways until 2007.) Poor Gears was the most mistreated Japanese GeeWun character, never released at all until 2004.