Universe 2.0 Cyclonus Pics

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Originally Posted by FFN

Gok, would it be utterly impossible for a franchise such as Transformers, with the right marketing and promotion, to challenge the might of Gundam and (whatever else is really big in japan in the mecha subculture)? Personally, I think it was a mistake to obscure the robots in one of the Japanese theatre poster designs.

In the west, Transformers actually does have one main competitor: Power Rangers, which has consistently beaten Transformers since it's inception.

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Heh, outdoing Gundam is nigh-impossible... nothing comes close to the scale of Gundam in Japan. ;) But what I'm basically saying is that Transformers is up against more competition in Japan compared to Western markets. In fact, Transformers was born from the Japanese henkei-mecha market (Diaclone, Micro-Change, Dorvack, Beetras, Macross, Mechabot-1 et al.).

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Originally Posted by Demonac

One of the things we were shown at the Hasbro tour was that they have 'x' hours & 'y' dollars to design 'z' number of toys.
So what happens is that they will go the extra yard for some toys, at the expense of others.

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Then perhaps Hasbro should cut back on the scale of their production and focus on making Transformers better quality across the board? e.g.: if they scrapped things like those Bumper-Battlers, Cyber-Stompers etc. - the money saved on developing those toys could be re-injected into say Animated.

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Originally Posted by FFN

Gok, would it be utterly impossible for a franchise such as Transformers, with the right marketing and promotion, to challenge the might of Gundam and (whatever else is really big in japan in the mecha subculture)?

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Can you imagine a multi-level store dedicated entirely to Transformers?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/82...0dbe86.jpg?v=0
Actually there's supposed to be a store dedicated to TF's but a) i'm yet to find it, and b) there's no way it'd be on the scale of Osaka Gundams!

Shortpacked today. SO topical. :D

So the moral of the story is, don't trust Hasbro*. ;)


(*'s promotional photography - notice how that Vector Prime looks just like the Galaxy Force version though)

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Originally Posted by jaydisc

Shortpacked today. SO topical. :D

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Having them side by side really shows how dodgy it looks to the promo pic. When it comes to final product difference (as in budgeted out paint) I say that Cyclonus is the winner.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

So the moral of the story is, don't trust Hasbro*. ;)


(*'s promotional photography - notice how that Vector Prime looks just like the Galaxy Force version though)

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That's why I jumped at Sky Shadow's Galaxy Force Vector Prime even though I originally had the Hasbro version :)

Hopefully Takara will give us a more presentable release of the mold, preferably without chrome.

i guess they could have made Cyclonus brighter and more appealing!
curses to Hxxxxo...

:rolleyes:Goodness I just spent my lunch time at work reading this whole thread. Mostly complaints with the occassional positive. If you don't like it don't buy it, be constructive not destructive with critiscism. I would prefer better colours but I can easily get past that if the moulds are good. As I have said before, I don't believe you can make an honest judgement on something until it is in front of you. Pictures do not always give true colour indications so wait and see people. I like it and will more than likely buy it but I do hope the issue with the silver gray colour difference in limb parts is rectified.

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Originally Posted by lcz128

And the more and more i look at this, it just makes me think of how much better it'd look with several coats of paint...

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Yeah i see a definate custom paint job.

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Originally Posted by Soundwarp

Yeah i see a definate custom paint job.

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You know, it doesn't seem to be that hard to do. All that it really needs is the exposed plain plastic to be painted silver which is fairly easy to apply.

It looks bad because there are too many large areas of unpainted plastic and it makes it look like a half finished figure.