Worst Toy Ever

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Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣

Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!

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In general I agree with you, but tbh there are some instances where the Hasbro version is comparable or arguably better than the Japanese version, or in some cases excusable.

e.g.:

+ Some Beast Wars colour differences; e.g.: Blackarachnia, Tigatron, Transmetals etc.; Hasbro's versions were released _before_ the cartoon whereas the Japanese versions were done after, hence Takara had the luxury of painting some of their BW toys in more show-like colours. But it's not Hasbro's fault that their Tigatron isn't snow white like Takara's... they can't be expected to see the future. What is less forgivable is the stupid cheap brown plastic Hasbro used on Transmetal Megatron. Grrr. :(

+ Masterpiece Starscream: Hasbro's version featured more G1-accurate colours and was also made of better and more durable plastic compared to Takara's MP-3.

+ Universe/Henkei Cyclonus: I personally prefer the darker purple on Hasbro's as opposed to the light purple on Takara's. I will admit that the mismatched greys on Hasbro's do suck though. :( The chrome on the Henkei does nothing for me. But really both versions have their own merits; Takara's is good for people wanting Cyclonus in G1 cartoon colours whereas Hasbro's is more closer to the original G1 toy and comics (well, except for those odd moments when Cyclonus was coloured blue... weird)

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Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣

Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??

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Yeah but none of the Classics had tampoed insignias, they had rub signs instead. And before we criticise Hasbro for opting to have rub signs over stickers or tampographed logos, remember that Takara gave their Car Robot Spychangers heat-activated insignias whereas Hasbro's RiD Spychangers had tampographed logos instead. It's a matter of personal preference which is "better."
e.g.: RiD Hot Shot vs. CR Artfire; you can see that Hot Shot has a tampoed logo whereas Artfire's is heat activated.

On the whole I strongly agree with you, but there are exceptions and I don't think it's entirely accurate to say that the Japanese version is "always" better. I'd say they're _usually_ better, but not always. :)

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Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣

Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!

Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??

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I think that the problem with Hasbro's paint jobs its not just cheap paints but also a more marketing driven mentality. While the Japanese try to stick to character colors (generally not always), Hasbro tries to implement brighter more 'eye catchy' colors that would stand out on a peg or shelf so that the product is more appealing to the stores rather than the end consumer - Of course this isn't always the case as in some rare occations Hasbro will pull a totally bland and 'WTF?' color scheme such as Universe Powerglide or Silverbolt.

A recent example that I can think of is the horrible colors of Universe Dinobot.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

While I think that Alternators suck compared to Binaltechs, I don't think they're the worst Transformers ever. And the Jazz mould is one I quite like. My least favourite is the Ravage XK mould.

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Are you saying that that whole Alternators line suck compared to the Binaltechs? Not sure I'm following you there because for the most part, each Alternator figure has a Binaltech counterpart.

Or are you saying that you prefer the BT version to the ALT version if and when it is a release of the same character? If so, I'm still a little confused because I can't see how, for example, ALT Meister can suck (pretty strong language) compared with BT Meister. They are essentially the same toy with slightly different material compositions; very much akin to rub-signs and tampographed versions of toys you've mentioned.

Also, ALTs as a line have its merits by giving us the likes of Mirage, Rumble and (ahem) Ravage amongst other figures that BTs never released. ALTs also have the advantage of not being subject to paint wear. As an example, I cite the bonnet corners of BT Lambor, man, hard to transform without scruffing off the paint there.

I prefer BTs over ALTs when there is a release of the same character. To me they feel like a cheaper version of Binaltechs and are overpriced. Alternators retailed for about $45-55 (I know they got real cheap toward the end when stores like TRU slashed prices to clear stock, but the standard retail price was about $45-55) whereas Binaltechs retailed for about 4980JPY ($58) each. Yeah okay, you gotta pay for postage on top of that; but of course group orders helped make that cheap (:)).

I don't think that Alternators are absolutely devoid of merit, but given the choice I'd much prefer paying a bit extra for Binaltechs considering that they had:
+ die-cast metal
+ better paint apps (I really don't like that cheap blue on Alt Smokescreen and the dodgy white on Meister)
+ extra goodies (e.g.: tech specs card, nice booklet with instructions, photos and story)
+ Nicer packaging (IMO)
+ I can get the toy/character sooner (i.e. importing the toy when it comes out in Japan vs. waiting for Hasbro Australia to release the toy here).

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Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon

Also, ALTs as a line have its merits by giving us the likes of Mirage, Rumble and (ahem) Ravage amongst other figures that BTs never released.

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Mirage is cool. Ravage I don't like... and Rumble I don't have but I haven't heard good things about it. Is it true that the robot mode doesn't have hands? i.e.: only piledriver pistons -- cos Galaxy Force Rumble (aka Cybertron Scrapmetal) has hands that can become piledrivers, and it's just a cheap little Scout Class toy. I'd be mighty disappointed if an Alternator couldn't at least match that. They also gave us Decepticharge which was quite ordinary to say the least (the core mould isn't bad, but the execution was poor IMO; don't even start me about the name).

I don't think Rumble came out here and I don't like Alternators enough to import any... I only got Ravage because I found him cheap while I was overseas. :p Anyway, I don't like Alternators compared to their Binaltech counterparts, hence they comparatively "suck" IMHO. And it is just my opinion. :)

Okay...I don't mean to jump on the Plastic Addict bandwagon but

Retrax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4TJRqWklXY

&

Armada Sideswipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymMG...eature=channel

look really awful...like a three day old piece of roadkill...
:eek:

Resurrecting the thread for a bit of fun.

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Originally Posted by Vector Prime

The entire range of RPM's?

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Tough to beat.

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

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I dunno - I have 4 versions of Frenzy from the 2007 movie and I reckon my RR version is by far the best of the lot

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Originally Posted by Megatran

Tough to beat.

Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o

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Robot Relpicas were awful, I disagree on the RPMs though, I have (1) Soundwave and I think it's great :p

Simple, tough and fun!

My thoughts on Worst Transformer Ever would have to be Energon Swoop and grimlock. I still haven't come across anything that beats them yet. Although I have been avoiding buying Transformers I think are going to be bad (which included MOST of the 3rd movie toys).

RPMs were poor value for money considering that you could get a die-cast metal Matchbox or Hot Wheels car for less than their full RRP. Unless you think it's worth paying extra for having Cybertronian roadkill stuck on the underside of the vehicles. :p

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

I prefer BTs over ALTs when there is a release of the same character. To me they feel like a cheaper version of Binaltechs and are overpriced. Alternators retailed for about $45-55 (I know they got real cheap toward the end when stores like TRU slashed prices to clear stock, but the standard retail price was about $45-55) whereas Binaltechs retailed for about 4980JPY ($58) each. Yeah okay, you gotta pay for postage on top of that; but of course group orders helped make that cheap (:)).

I don't think that Alternators are absolutely devoid of merit, but given the choice I'd much prefer paying a bit extra for Binaltechs considering that they had:
+ die-cast metal
+ better paint apps (I really don't like that cheap blue on Alt Smokescreen and the dodgy white on Meister)
+ extra goodies (e.g.: tech specs card, nice booklet with instructions, photos and story)
+ Nicer packaging (IMO)
+ I can get the toy/character sooner (i.e. importing the toy when it comes out in

I don't think Rumble came out here and I don't like Alternators enough to import any... I only got Ravage because I found him cheap while I was overseas. :p Anyway, I don't like Alternators compared to their Binaltech counterparts, hence they comparatively "suck" IMHO. And it is just my opinion. :)

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I think alternators win mp cars. Mp cars are totally plastic and regardless what people are saying, die cast still outshines.

After looking at tracks mp25 I don't find it anywhere better as a toy.

The worst mp toy goes to mp-9 for me due to how weak the leg joints were rodimus couldn't hold the riffle, I mean did they actually test this or go with the "this will do" attitude?