No opt-out for Optus, Telstra filter
How the tech industry defused the internet filter (the issue is FAR from diffused; piss-poor op piece)
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No opt-out for Optus, Telstra filter
How the tech industry defused the internet filter (the issue is FAR from diffused; piss-poor op piece)
This is really sad. I work for Optus and as such receive free home internet access... I am willing to switch to and pay for my internet though someone like Internode like as the article suggests, many people will.
Obviously this won't help if it becomes federal law as all ISP's will be forced to comply.
I was talking about this issue with a friend last night, and he compared it with the internet filtering in China. I've used the filtered internet in China.
IT SUCKSBAKUGAN!!
And before anyone makes any snide remarks, it's NOT because I couldn't download "pawn." In fact, "pawn" seemed fairly easy to access there (I was borrowing someone else's computer and... um... they weren't discreet in hiding their files (i.e. they were on the freaking desktop :/))... but I was unable to access a lot of Transformers related sites! A lot of other things like some blogs, forums etc. were inaccessible.
So based on my first hand experience with filtered internet overseas, I must say that I'm NOT looking forward to experiencing it in Australia. :( :mad:
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*Bakugan (爆丸) means "exploding balls". I'm not making this up!
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Originally Posted by SGB
Thank god I went with TPG.Quote:
However, the voluntary filter scheme rather has fractured the industry than united it, with two major ISPs, Internode and TPG, refusing to co-operate.
I concur dude, Thank Anubis!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
It is very relieving to finally know where TPG sits on this subject and that the company has an Independent and Intelligent set of minds governing it.
The State of trust: it's a one way street - covers the moral/behavioral aspect of it all quite nicely IMO.
Yes, that's another great piece from Mark Newton. Basically says Govt doesn't trust its citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
How would you vote on the internet filter? (Everyone should vote on this poll; and get as many folks as you can to do the same)
Dr Tucci is Bewildered
yARN: Conroy’s cleverest move yet on the filter
DBCDE seeks filter policy officers
Fight The Filter: Thoughts From Ruslan Kogan, CEO Of Kogan Technologies
Telstra, Optus to rely on old filter trials
I guess that means we can expect Telstra and Optus' censorware to be buggy given the half-assed trials they're relying on for implementation.
A win in the filter debate (for everybody) (poor article, IMO; once again, it's author shows a profound poor understanding of the issue)
Cyber Safety Committee censors Family Guy (I suspect Mark Newton was baiting the committee, and they fell for it, hook line and sinker)
I'm assuming that this means 'released material only' not stuff that has yet to be shown or made available to purchase. This sucks for anyone wanting to catch-up on their favourite TV show when the networks here refuse to show it or give it a regular airtime.Quote:
Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy has said that the filter will block only content that "you can't buy [on] DVD" or watch on TV.
The government is really trying to control what we all watch and when aren't they. Sounds familiar to another country I know of...
Your not wrong there SGB, the "Majority" of non-supporters will be satisfied with the RC Review? - Is Mr. Riley serious? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
Gees, the amount of Stupidity that Governs our country is astounding... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
I wonder what they thought of the Drawn Together Movie. :p
Every time I hear Conroy speak about this I always hear something like this in the background.
Wonder why?
It's a good if not very inventive move if you're pushing for a filter - claim a partial victory, misrepresent opponents' position and ignore the arguments against it, and marginalise those who are totally opposed as fringe extremists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Classic politics 101, Not Opting Into Child Porn Mark II but with a dash of subtlety. No one who's following the debate and knows the facts would fall for it, but that's not who the article would be targeted at.
As a small thought, it's probably too late to get a net-roots party registered right? 'Cos a Melbourne-based "Anti-Child Porn Party" handing out How to Vote cards with Conroy last on the ballot might be a good idea. It's not like all of us don't know that the filter will, if anything, aid child pornographers by sweeping the issue under a rug rather than focussing on catching and jailing producers.
You probably wouldn't even need to be a party, just an organisation calling yourself the Anti-Child Porn Alliance or Concerned Citizens Against Child Porn or something. There are enough techheads concerned about the filter to make the idea feasible.
EDIT - It should totally be called the "Won't Somebody Please Think Of the Children? Party":D
It's true. To child pornographers, the filter is like the ultimate distraction tactic. The public thinks it's no longer happening because of the filter and the Government will stop any real effort in putting down child pornography because officially their filter should be doing the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
It's ridiculous.
The other down side is that it gives parents a false sense of security. They will think the internet is a safe place when it really isn't. There is some really scary stuff out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
The kinda scary stuff that stops me from hitting the random page button on Encyclopaedia Dramatica
Looks as if the Liberals are against the filter:
http://noaustraliannetfiltering.blog...in-cairns.html
I'll wait for official confirmation before getting too excited.
If I had been in their position I would have let it continue on and on, like they have, without giving my position on it until now. Now is the perfect time for them to make it an election issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
It might be shelved for 12 months, it is still there waiting to be brought in, they can now make a big fuss about it on the big stage and make it an election issue.
Painting Labor as a censorship government like China's for an key issue would probably bring some votes their way
I love how the title for this story is 'the case for censoring the internet"Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
IMO, it is up to the parents to make sure their kids know the dangers of the internet, not for this regime to give us a mandatory filter!!!
Hmm, very interesting and I might consider this on the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
I was wondering what exactly had changed with the preferences.
It's just the How to Vote cards. That's all - except in the above the line options in the Senate, which is based on Proportional Representation (i.e. a vote for whoever is generally a vote for whoever - sadly with Conroy at #1 on the ticket he's bound to get back in). Looking at the usual demographics for Labor and the Greens and their usual level of political awareness the Greens got the better deal here (largely by dint of not being one of the Big 2 1/2), though the bigger than usual protest vote factor will make a difference.
As always the best way to go is to vote how you want and put down your own preferences. Or just vote informal if you want to protest with your vote, but be aware it also 'wastes' it.
Q&A with former Communications Minister, Michael Lee: On ISP filtering and browser history data collection (I see Lee is using typical Labor language)
Censorship: Labor's hidden policy (Lengthy, but well worth reading and forwarding on to others who may not be aware of the policy; article kills a lot of Govt's arguments)
More delays to filter plan
Not surprising at all. I think the Australian public is a lot smarter than the government takes them for.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
Just want to say thanks to SGB for keeping this updated, the articles are always an interesting read.
Seconded. Thanks heaps SGB.Quote:
Originally Posted by llamatron
Thanks. :)
Latest article:
Swan hints at possible filter changes
There is a Pirate Party National Congress tomorrow in Sydney near Martin Place.
It's free but you need to secure your ticket.
I'll be attending, anyone else going?
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If I've missed any, or you want to make an additional motion or amend
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Anti-filter postcards being distributed by the Greens:
http://yfrog.com/9gcm8j
:D
where can you get those postcards? their awesome!
No idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dkaris
A List of all (or most) parties in the upcoming election and their POV on internet censorship: http://dctonyt.blogspot.com/2010/08/...ho-oppose.html