Combiner Wars Devastator Rumour

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Originally Posted by Zommael

Given that none of those toys is an actual Transformer, the use of terms like "voyager" or "deluxe" to describe them is misleading.

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How is it misleading? Even though they aren't officially TFs they were designed to fit in the transformers line and were designed to a size class. They were designed to be deluxes/Voyagers/whatever. Nothing "misleading" about it.

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However, even taking that at face value, none of them is made up of five voyagers and a leader, or any combination of any number of bots and a leader (which, given that we do not know the make-up of the rumoured toy, it could be made up of). I compared the potential size of the thing to supreme Unicron, a large supreme-class toy. Taking "Feral Rex" there as an illustration, I'd imagine that with a leader-class torso and a similar sort of make-up it would approach that toy in size. That toy is in the same ballpark as Metroplex, coming in just below the shoulders. The largest toy your picture shows is the KO Predaking, which you say is made up of five large voyagers. I'd imagine it's only slightly shorter than Unicron, looking at Fort Max behind it. It's likely Hasbro will go with the G1 style for Devastator, so it will be made up of six bots. If one of those is a leader-class, then the toy can easily be significantly bigger than Feral Rex, slightly bigger than Unicron, and in the same ballpark as Fort Max and Metroplex. All it really needs to be to qualify as a Titan, though, is bigger than a supreme.

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Thanks to the Internet for this pic below, cause I couldn't be arsed to get them all back out for another photo.
The one on the right in this photo is TFCs Uranos, which is made up of 4 Voyagers and a Leader as the torso and as you can see, the leader makes bugger all difference to the overall height.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...c301b6ceda.jpg

The whole concept of a Titan Devy is being loosely held together by hopes, dreams and a ton of assumptions. I want a Titan class Devy as much as anyone, but I am approaching these "rumours" with a healthy dose of scepticism instead of seeing a TRU listing and immediately stripping naked and running down the street screaming "Prepare for Devastation!!!11!1!1!!!1!"

if we're getting a proper titan class i want each of the 6 bots to be metroplex size .


6 foot tall end result or nothing

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Originally Posted by Trent

The whole concept of a Titan Devy is being loosely held together by hopes, dreams and a ton of assumptions. I want a Titan class Devy as much as anyone, but I am approaching these "rumours" with a healthy dose of scepticism instead of seeing a TRU listing and immediately stripping naked and running down the street screaming "Prepare for Devastation!!!11!1!1!!!1!"

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There's a lot of people convinced, to the point of being angry, that Hasbro will screw up and the toy will suck, without even getting a glimpse of it. I find it bizarre myself.

In the old days of the Internet there was a saying. Pics or it didn't happen.

Was thinking of suggesting a competiton. Get 100 people to draw what they imagine "Titan Devastator" will look like. We'll get a 100 different versions and 75 fans who will not be happy if Hasbro doesn't produce exaclty what they have drawn.

I mean, wait until people find out Hook is called Hightower. What? His name's Hook! Hasbro sucks. Glad I bought Giant.

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

There's a lot of people convinced, to the point of being angry, that Hasbro will screw up and the toy will suck, without even getting a glimpse of it. I find it bizarre myself.

In the old days of the Internet there was a saying. Pics or it didn't happen.

Was thinking of suggesting a competiton. Get 100 people to draw what they imagine "Titan Devastator" will look like. We'll get a 100 different versions and 75 fans who will not be happy if Hasbro doesn't produce exaclty what they have drawn.

I mean, wait until people find out Hook is called Hightower. What? His name's Hook! Hasbro sucks. Glad I bought Giant.

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only way it will be called hook is with the disney peter pan crossover devastator

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

There's a lot of people convinced, to the point of being angry, that Hasbro will screw up and the toy will suck, without even getting a glimpse of it. I find it bizarre myself.

In the old days of the Internet there was a saying. Pics or it didn't happen.

Was thinking of suggesting a competiton. Get 100 people to draw what they imagine "Titan Devastator" will look like. We'll get a 100 different versions and 75 fans who will not be happy if Hasbro doesn't produce exaclty what they have drawn.

I mean, wait until people find out Hook is called Hightower. What? His name's Hook! Hasbro sucks. Glad I bought Giant.

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Im just itching to be able to throw this around:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...c7daf07aef.jpg

:p

And I am glad I bought Giant :) it won't however stop me from buying a 2 foot tall Devy*, IF it happens. Too many people are taking it as a given.


*Provided it's not garbage and a waste of money.

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Originally Posted by Trent

How is it misleading? Even though they aren't officially TFs they were designed to fit in the transformers line and were designed to a size class. They were designed to be deluxes/Voyagers/whatever. Nothing "misleading" about it.

Thanks to the Internet for this pic below, cause I couldn't be arsed to get them all back out for another photo.
The one on the right in this photo is TFCs Uranos, which is made up of 4 Voyagers and a Leader as the torso and as you can see, the leader makes bugger all difference to the overall height.

The whole concept of a Titan Devy is being loosely held together by hopes, dreams and a ton of assumptions. I want a Titan class Devy as much as anyone, but I am approaching these "rumours" with a healthy dose of scepticism instead of seeing a TRU listing and immediately stripping naked and running down the street screaming "Prepare for Devastation!!!11!1!1!!!1!"

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It's misleading because whatever you pretend to yourself in your own collection, they aren't Transformers. It's a bit like describing a 1/144 Gundam model as deluxe-sized, and a 1/100 as voyager-sized. They aren't TF products, so the classification is wrong, even though it's broadly descriptive. Honestly, the fact that one particular non-Hasbro combiner is of a particular height doesn't mean that a new product will be the same. It's more than possible for Hasbro to create a much taller toy if they want to, especially if they are using six combiners.

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

There's a lot of people convinced, to the point of being angry, that Hasbro will screw up and the toy will suck, without even getting a glimpse of it. I find it bizarre myself.

In the old days of the Internet there was a saying. Pics or it didn't happen.

Was thinking of suggesting a competiton. Get 100 people to draw what they imagine "Titan Devastator" will look like. We'll get a 100 different versions and 75 fans who will not be happy if Hasbro doesn't produce exaclty what they have drawn.

I mean, wait until people find out Hook is called Hightower. What? His name's Hook! Hasbro sucks. Glad I bought Giant.

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We've been hearing this rumour for a while now. We have sources who appear to be reliable backing it up. There is no evidence against the idea. I'm sorry that you're feeling cynical, but as a fan of Transformers, I'm going to take the excuse to at least be a little excited for what we'll see at Toy Fair this year.

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Originally Posted by Trent

Im just itching to be able to throw this around:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...c7daf07aef.jpg

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And I am glad I bought Giant :) it won't however stop me from buying a 2 foot tall Devy*, IF it happens. Too many people are taking it as a given.


*Provided it's not garbage and a waste of money.

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I'm not feeling entitled, nor am I "running down the street naked screaming" (I'll save that for when and if it's actually revealed). I'm simply excited about a possibility that sounds cool, and if nothing else, it means I'll be keeping a close eye on Toy Fair this year (like I do every year). Some people may choose to take it too fair, but all getting excited by the rumours shows is that you're enthusiastic for the hobby, which so many people seem not to be these days.

Actually, for me it'd be better if it is around Feral Rex height, preferably slightly shorter. Cool as I think it is that HasTakTom made a ginormous Metroplex, he's kind of too big for me to be able to display, and a Devastator that dwarfs the other combiners (official Combiner Wars and in my case Feral Rex as well) doesn't really work for me either.
If HTT can put out a well-engineered, solid, roughly-equivalent-to-the-other-combiners Devastator then I'll probably bite. If it's overly big, then I'll have to pass. The only characters/toys I could see myself buying at Titan-class size would be Unicron and/or Primus.

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Originally Posted by Zommael

We've been hearing this rumour for a while now. We have sources who appear to be reliable backing it up. There is no evidence against the idea. I'm sorry that you're feeling cynical, but as a fan of Transformers, I'm going to take the excuse to at least be a little excited for what we'll see at Toy Fair this year.

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I read it as though Paulbot was talking about the people who will deem this Devastator a failure simply because it is Has/Tak is designing it ("even before pics appear") whereas Paulbot IS reserving judgement until pics DO appear.

^These are my thoughts too.

Nobody doubts a Devastator something will be revealed soon. I too am excited :D

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Originally Posted by Zommael

We've been hearing this rumour for a while now. We have sources who appear to be reliable backing it up. There is no evidence against the idea. I'm sorry that you're feeling cynical, but as a fan of Transformers, I'm going to take the excuse to at least be a little excited for what we'll see at Toy Fair this year.

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Don't get me wrong I am very keen to see what this ends up being, no matter how many team members it has, if they do or don't have robot modes, if there's a Prowl in the mix or not, whether all the original names are all used, whether they have attack modes, etc.

My concern (not sure that's the right word) is people having high expectations and hopes and when they aren't met (because you can't please everyone) seeing fans turning around and using that disappointment to justify hating Hasbro and supporting the third party toys instead. You know, the silly arguments: "Giant/Hercules does it this way, why doesn't Hasbro's toy do the same thing. Why isn't the official mass market toy as good as the limited release third party toy. Why does Hasbro hate the fans?"

This sort of stuff is already being posted on the global boards before even an out of focus picture has even been seen. It's the sort of stuff already happening with Combiner Wars Menasor, even though nobody actually owns a Combiner Wars Menasor yet.

If I'm cynical of anything, I'm cynical of fan reactions.

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Originally Posted by CoRDS

only way it will be called hook is with the disney peter pan crossover devastator

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I'd be careful of what you wish for! :p