The oxygen thief is still MIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
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The oxygen thief is still MIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
Back in Hawaii perhaps?
So it turns out he scuttled out from under a rock at 10:30pm to announce he changed a single word in the national anthem from, "young and free" to, "one and free"
Amazing that Abbott was a more competent PM than this clown.
Nah, Abbott would be actively undermining the attempts by the states to prevent the spread of Covid. If Morrison is going to take a back seat and not get in the way, then I'm fine with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
Nah, Abbott is trying to escape his "north" northern beaches hideaway and spread the virus on his bike. Probably heard that some one was thinking of donating money to mental health or a women's refuge and had to try and stop it...Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
Has anyone heard how the mutant strain differes to the non mutated form on surfaces?
The reason i ask is i ordered earthrise autobot alliance 2pk from tfsource (as there a reports that the mutated strain could be in nevada usa and that is where tfsource is) and i was wondering if there was anything about mutant strains infecting parcels.
There's been no recent research as far as I can tell.
The studies last year looked at how long SARS-Cov-2 existed on differenet surfaces and noted that the aerosol droplets could no longer be detected after 24 hours. This is pretty consistent with other aerosol viruses.
Besides that, after a lull early in the year, package deliveries have progressed pretty much unabated last year and there were very few reports of coronavirus cases from unknown sources (which I would include packaging contaminants within)
I should think that ordering a package from Nevada will be a pretty safe bet. And if you wanted to be extra cautious, you can handle with gloves and with a surface spray (or any other way that minimises your contact)
According to this BBC article, the virus been mutating since it was first detected in Wuhan, China.
Here's a link to CSIRO research from October 2020 on COVID survivability on different surfaces. The article is not too long and features images and an info graphic at the bottom.
Thanks seraphim prime and kovert
WA going into lockdown for 5 days. Panic paying is huge
Stoopid people
I thought it was 10 days for WA
5 days, through to the end of this week. Friday 6pm I believe is the cutoff.
If Brisbane is anything to go by, I think your lockdown will only be short, as Perth has been very well insulated, and this country is getting very good at contact tracing and testing when movement restrictions are in place. Putting everything on pause for a few days to make sure it hasn't spread, limiting the number of people moving around the city, they can do several days of testing and tracing to improve the chances of preventing it from spreading, as it can take up to a day to get test results back and if it continues to spread they are constantly playing catch-up.
There are two options...
The Victorian option - allow people to continue as normal because of the fear of (voter) backlash, until too many cases and deaths are hurting the popularity of the political leaders... then it takes months of lockdown and restrictions to bring it back to zero, losing over 800 lives in the process and putting a lot of people out of work.
Or, the option we've seen in QLD, NSW and NZ... lockdown for a few days at the first sign of a community case and assess if the virus has spread... then contain it quickly before it gets out of control and starts killing people, re-opening within a shorter period of time (limiting the pain to the people stuck at home and the businesses).
I know which option I'd prefer, as lives are more important than short-term inconvenience... and much better than long-term inconvenience if the decision is made to wait, to see if it just disappears on its own (or think that testing and tracing on its own will some how stop the virus while people are allowed to travel around the state freely and infect others before they know that they have come into contact with an infected person).
Unfortunately, one person at my work was rather vocal about the QLD 3-day mask-mandated lockdown when it was announced on the news during our lunch-break, claiming that it was excessive to force that on all of the city just because of one community case... but obviously didn't care about how many people needed to die just so he could continue living his life unhindered.
(the really annoying thing was that he and his band of conspiracy-theory-flat-earth-anti-vaxxers actually boycotted the 3-day mask-mandate here in Brisbane last month, and all of them went home just to avoid wearing a mask at work... forcing the worksite to have to close down their shift because the majority of the night shift were missing - and there was nothing that the company could do about it, or penalise them over it)
Wait. Is this how Victoria looked to people in other states. Because that is not what happened here, it sounds like the tale from Sky News and Newscorp. Our Premier did not allow things to remain as normal to avoid voter backlash. He took actions that were unpopular but we did them. If anything the “Victorian Option” which did not work was the attempt to lockdown hard just certain post code areas of Melbourne when the second wave appeared. That came a little too late and the virus was outside those post codes (and in public nursing homes due to Federal Government incompetence) which then led to the second wave death toll and the even tougher restrictions.Quote:
There are two options...
The Victorian option - allow people to continue as normal because of the fear of (voter) backlash, until too many cases and deaths are hurting the popularity of the political leaders... then it takes months of lockdown and restrictions to bring it back to zero, losing over 800 lives in the process and putting a lot of people out of work.
And are you implying the Victorian government took this action: “ decision is made to wait, to see if it just disappears on its own” because if you are, you really have no f-ing idea what Victoria has been through or how our leaders acted. I’m guessing you didn’t watch the daily press conferences our leader gave answering questions for hours while liberal Premiers in the other states and the PM ran away from tough questions. :mad:
Oh I just remembered Queensland only has News Corporation papers and that company was running a smear campaign against Labor Premiers for all of 2020. No wonder you’ve not got the facts. F the Courier Mail. Get the facts right or down talk crap about my state.
Yeah Paul is right. The Victorian governments response wasn’t perfect but it was a damn sight better than some other states. Have you forgotten the Ruby Princess griff?
The biggest problem we’ve had through all of this has been our dickhead PM. He’s stepped back and dumped the responsibility on all of this on the states, even the traditionally federal parts. So when someone messes up he does the only thing he can do, he blames someone else.
Don't forget you get a go if you have a go.
Anyway, yep, almost all the screw ups have been 100% federal responsibility (to the surprise of no one).
All of it because the federal government doesn't hold a hose.Quote:
Originally Posted by llamatron
It does dictate the news as all the news outlets are spewing the exact same story, with the exact same wording, "Craig Kelly hauled into Scott Morrison's for a dressing down over spending disinformation about medical facts!" and yet the buffoon's posts on Facebook remain up and the Coalition fringe element claiming that Kelly's been censored.
The vaccine is not 100% effective, even after the second dose, that's why herd immunity is so important.Quote:
Originally Posted by G1Optimal
Victoria now going back into stage 4 restrictions for 5 days and let's hope it doesn't extend beyond that.
Waiting for all the people to start complaining about the Victoria lockdown... that don’t actually live in Victoria or know anyone affected by it.
I haven't seen some relatives for more than 2 years. That is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Glad the 5 day lockdown is over. I intend to name this Saturday either Paleotrex or Black Arachnia Day.😉
I just found out today that I qualify to get my Covid vaccine now. Just one issue, getting an appointment slot is not going to be easy.
How are you guys going down in Brisbane? Up here in Gladstone, we have had our first-ever confirmed case of Covid after a guy travelled from Brisbane and stayed in the area that ended up having the UK strain.
So far everyone that has been tested has come back with a negative test, so it looks like he didn't spread it. We are not getting a lockdown here because there is no evidence of community transmission, but everyone is on edge.
A lot more people were seen wearing masks today at the shops in Brisbane. At Woolworths, the toilet paper stock was running fairly low although not the aisle wasn't completely bare yet. People were conscious about keeping a 1.5 m gap, which resulted in a long queue back to the freezers. Supermarkets will still be open during the lockdown so there is no need for panic buying.
Additional information about the three day COVID-19 lockdown in Greater Brisbane* starting from 29 March 2021 at 17:00 can be found on the <Queensland Government website>.
* Greater Brisbane LGAs include City of Brisbane, City of Ipswich, Logan City, Moreton Bay Region, Redland City.
I don't understand the panic buying now. The first time around, fine, that's understandable due to the fear and uncertainty. But as we've learnt from the two lockdowns we've had (the initial weeks long one in 2020, and then the three-day one earlier in 2021), shops remained open and stock levels end up being sufficient so there's no reason to stock up to crazy levels.
Yep. The panic buying is likely to be the cause of stock shortages in many cases.
So I managed to get my first Covid shot yesterday. My arm feels like it's about to fall off and I am slightly headachey, but otherwise, it's gone well.
That sounds exciting.
Here in Japan the numbers of cases are increasing, currently with daily rates of 500+ people in some cities. Osaka is the leader at the moment and Japan has implemented a "medical emergency" state. So instead of a State of emergency tits a medical one. Apparently less stringent than the SOE.
HOWEVER, the SOE only closes bars/restaurants at 8pm and issues fines.
I read and article and the Governor/mayor of Osaka was stating they are unsure of the true state of COVID in the area. That is because they make it extremely hard to get a test here. On top of that, I hear that if you don't go to a national hospital/clinic, it doesn't get counted anyway.
this new one does the same, but rewards places for having acrylic separators between customers. So one could argue these new measures are more stringent than the SOE. Incidentally why the separators thing wasn't implemented sooner is baffling.
Well, not really. There has been pretty much a hands off approach by the govt in controlling this an they've been spouting the same advice (Wash your hands, wear a mask and gargle regularly) since this all began. Naturally people are getting tired of it and slacking off (also, party season again).
To be honest, I'm very surprised Japan hasn't been devastated by the covid and think it's been very lucky. There were/are no awareness campaigns endorsed by the govt. Stay home was a thing for the first SOE (last year), yet while it was going on there was much dragging of feet and little preparation made at that time and social distancing is mainly used by comedians as a dumb gag when someone gets close. There is none in the shops, trains, anywhere. Plus it's practically hard to implement in many places.
The only positive move I've seen is a wider acceptance of remote working. But I've noticed that as the new work/school year has started, many places are bringing people in to the office and the trains are crowding up again.
Olympics? Pfah! dont get me started.
Man, where did this all come from?
I read that Constitutionally the Japanese government has pretty limited options when it comes to implementing and/or enforcing restrictions. So that's one thing.
How's the vaccination situation over there @Tets?
Yeah they are hamstringed that's for sure. That's why I think they should go on a bit of a media blitz to educate people. But that's not the way the old guys like it.
Vaccination situation is a far off dream at the moment.
I guess no trips for me to Japan in the near future...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Unless you're an athelete. J Govt. is desperate to make the Olympics work.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I think this thread deserves resurrection for the clustermess which NSW Government has made of suppressing the virus, locking down too slow, bringing in harsher restrictions too late. To the point at which half the country is now in lockdown and there is a national emergency. So much for the gold standard and proudly not being quick to lockdown.
Gladys is squarely to blame. More I could say, but I'll keep my mouth shut.
So much for the Woman who saved Australia.
We have had a bit of a scare up here in regional QLD today. A flight attendant tested positive for Delta. But it was only caught by a test the other day and she was potentially infecting people across regional QLD for almost 2 weeks.
So far nobody here in Gladstone has been confirmed positive, but they have set up a drive-through testing centre that they want people to go to.
With how Annastacia is handling it I'm guessing we will have a snap lockdown if one person is infected locally and then people will complain about the politicians putting public health and safety first.