Revenge of the Fallen Toys comments/discussion

My recent acquisitions of Jolt and the ice cream twins came with the latest catalogue which shows Supreme Class Constructicon Devastator - now I must confess that I haven't paid too much attention to this toy because I'm just not that interested in it, so this probably won't come as news to most of you - but I only just noticed that Supreme Devastator is missing Overload!

Wow. Just when I thought this set couldn't suck more and that I couldn't be more uninterested in it than I already am... oh well. Saves me money. :p

Do we get a great look at exactly how many vehicles form Devastator in the film? I assumed it was seven myself, but I'm not certain.

At any rate, I'm glad that the EZ (Legends) Devastator has the extra toy, since I quite like Overload.

On an unrelated note... I opened up Mr Whippy yesterday. I know that the ROTF toys are gaining a reputation as panelformers, but this set takes the cake. The rear half (Mudflap I think) is a robot hidden inside a box of panels. I still like them, but it's awfully obvious. At least the BW Neo shellformers generally has some significant morphing to do once out of their shell of panels - Mudflap pretty much just stands up.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

... I might even consider selling off some of my non-movie toys from the first movie. Hrmmm...

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gok let me know il come over to help you with them *evil laugh* and grab the ones i want... lol

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Originally Posted by dirge

Do we get a great look at exactly how many vehicles form Devastator in the film? I assumed it was seven myself, but I'm not certain.

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I think that like Hightower, he appears only in vehicle mode and we see him form Devastator, but he never transforms to robot mode. Oh yeah, the catalogue also seems to have swapped some of the names around too. (-_-)

Is anyone else finding the bonnet of the ice-cream truck just won't stay down? Skids' head keeps on pushing it up on mine.:(

EDIT - Cheers Goki.:)

You need to pull the hood ornament up so that it can clip over the front of the bonnet and hold it in. The hood ornament slides down in robot mode so as not to obscure the head as much so it needs to be pulled back up when transforming back to vehicle mode.

:)

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Originally Posted by dirge

Do we get a great look at exactly how many vehicles form Devastator in the film? I assumed it was seven myself, but I'm not certain.

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I remember seeing Overload (in vehicle mode) drive into the quarry with the other Constructicons before they formed Devastator. Considering that all the others are indispensable in forming Devastator, there were thus seven vehicles.

blazemaster - best left in alt mode

does the blue tail section snap into place anywhere? and the white piece on top? they just kind of dangle there:confused:

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

My recent acquisitions of Jolt and the ice cream twins came with the latest catalogue which shows Supreme Class Constructicon Devastator - now I must confess that I haven't paid too much attention to this toy because I'm just not that interested in it, so this probably won't come as news to most of you - but I only just noticed that Supreme Devastator is missing Overload!

Wow. Just when I thought this set couldn't suck more and that I couldn't be more uninterested in it than I already am... oh well. Saves me money. :p

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The big combiner set only has six vehicles, which is one of the reasons people like the EZ/legends set because it has an extra Constructicon (Overload).

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Originally Posted by dirge

Do we get a great look at exactly how many vehicles form Devastator in the film? I assumed it was seven myself, but I'm not certain.

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I recall someone saying there were nine in that scene, but each time I watch it (six times now, plus the preview at BotCon), I can only count 8. There were two already parked in the quarry (Longhaul and Hightower), three drive into the quarry (Mixmaster, Overload and Scrapper), and two on the ridge (I can't recall who, but one would be Rampage and the other was a duplicate). Since we saw poor filming on part of the Director on the cargo ship (the four constructicons going to revive Megatron), it is possible that a nineth was spotted during the merging - as Hasbro suggested at BotCon that Devastator is made up of as many Constructicons as it needs (hence the masses of duplicates/clones). Maybe there was meant to be some back-story about it, which was dropped to trim down an already long movie.

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Originally Posted by griffin

I recall someone saying there were nine in that scene, but each time I watch it (six times now, plus the preview at BotCon), I can only count 8. There were two already parked in the quarry (Longhaul and Hightower), three drive into the quarry (Mixmaster, Overload and Scrapper), and two on the ridge (I can't recall who, but one would be Rampage and the other was a duplicate).

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I also count 8, although you've only listen 7. Perhaps you just forgot to note Scavenger driving in with Mixmaster, Overload and Scrapper? Also it's definitely a second Long Haul that appears on the ridge with Rampage.

I can see how others might say there are more than that 8 when they look at the completed or near completed image of Devastator, e.g. perhaps they see extra crane shovels, but I think that's just fake kibble in the combined mode's CGI model. There are definitely only 8 seen in vehicle mode before the transformation begins.

Dead End is an interesting Transformer, but Kickback really should have been done with this figure.

Mine has severe balance issues due to the chicken feet problem that strikes many a movie-verse figure, very hard to pose him.

Yet to open Scalpel, only nabbed him as the missus found the idea of a TF that turns into something non-vehicular/weapon fantastic (cant wait till the Perceptor re-issue comes out)

Sorry, yeah four drive in. And Long Haul is the duplicate on the ridge.

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Originally Posted by i_amtrunks

Dead End is an interesting Transformer, but Kickback really should have been done with this figure.

Mine has severe balance issues due to the chicken feet problem that strikes many a movie-verse figure, very hard to pose him.

Yet to open Scalpel, only nabbed him as the missus found the idea of a TF that turns into something non-vehicular/weapon fantastic (cant wait till the Perceptor re-issue comes out)

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I agree with that except I strangely don't have any problem making him stand up:confused: For some strange reason (maybe I have him mistransformed) he stands perfectly for me.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I agree with that except I strangely don't have any problem making him stand up:confused: For some strange reason (maybe I have him mistransformed) he stands perfectly for me.

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+1

I actually like the Sideways mold and especially the Dead End redeco. There isn't much problems for standing him up for me neither. I think it's because most assume he stands like the usual biped but actually more a chicken walker, but the lack of an extra joint gives off the idea that he's meant to stand up like a standard biped. In this instance most try to pose him with the knee bent forward. Doing this will mean tilting the wheels up and making his toes the sole foothold for the figure, but you are meant to bend the knees back and use the wheels as "spurs" to make him stand. EDIT: Here's a few pictures of how I arrange his legs and feet:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...aysDeadend.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...eadendFeet.jpg

Despite being a panel former, the detail on his robot part sculpt, the unique insect like look and just the way the panels fold around him makes this mold a personal guilty pleasure of mine. I must admit that the lack of pain apps for Sideways robot mode and the high contrasting colour scheme doesn't do the figure any favours, but Dead End redeco spruced things up more with a better fitting alt mode colour and added paint apps and better colour contrast in robot mode.

+1 On the Sideways fandom.

He is among my favourte moulds from ROTF. And I've never been to troubled standing him either. His bright red torso is kind of lame, but a quick wash of black and a few extra custom paint aps applied and its all good!

Sadly you can't really see them in this only pic I have at hand atm.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/100_1046.jpg

I haven't seen a Dead End yet, not sure If I will get him as I'm not a fan of the altmode colour scheme as much. Still I do like the mould, so we'll see.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I agree with that except I strangely don't have any problem making him stand up:confused: For some strange reason (maybe I have him mistransformed) he stands perfectly for me.

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That was my mistake, I didnt have the leg/wheel panel down low enough to balance it out. Balance is decent for a movie figure. Transformation is easy, not too panelly at all.

A look at Swerve:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ve-altside.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...e-altfront.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...alttopback.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ve-altback.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...eswipe-alt.jpg

Not painted finish except for the back panel (as you can see above) which is a slightly different shade of red. It uses red plastic with with black used for the side mirrors for highlight. The headlights clear but the brake lights are orange and not red to contrast from the red deco. There is a few more paint apps compared to Sideswipe, noticeably the gold on the Chevrolet badge on the front bonnett and the autobot insignia over white as the number plates on the rear. The front grille is also painted black and the 4 mufflers (?) on the rear uses teh same clear plastic as the windows. Speaking of which, the windows are a darker shade of blue than sideswipes.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...eswipe-bot.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...erve-torso.jpg http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...Swerve-leg.jpg

Bot mode reveals more black some grey and gold highlights. The head sculpt is new and kinda looks like Sideswipe with a wrestling mask on. Although the sculpt detail and paint apps on it are better than Sideswipes. There's a few more paint apps on the body, including the gold on the hips and chest. The knees pads are painted silver. OVerall a nice colour scheme, if a little dark.

I think this repaint goes to show they really did make the right decision by not using G1 Sideswipes signature red paint for movie Sideswipe. Silver just looks so goddamn classy in comparison. I think the red would have to be a bit darker, metallic or ultra glossy to even stand a chance. Silver Sideswipe = win!

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Originally Posted by Stompy

The head sculpt is new and kinda looks like Sideswipe with a wrestling mask on.

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Holy crap for crap! :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22.../strongbad.jpg

Swerve looks pretty good in your pics, Stompy. :)

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

Holy crap for crap! :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22.../strongbad.jpg

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Does this make Sideswipe Strong Sad?

Sideswipe can be StrongMad since he's strong enough to chop of Decepticon in half. Jolt is StrongSad since "sad" is arguably an apt description for his appearance in RotF. :p ;)

I think Deluxe Dead End would be Strong Sad, considering he sits in dark corners all the time.

ANYWAY, I got Sideswipe today. His car mode is cool, but I don't like how it doesn't roll. Not that the wheels don't move, but there's undercarriage junk sticking out that scrapes along the ground and prevents him from rolling.

The transformation is tricky, but it's not insane.

Robot mode is really good. He looks like a Gundam robot cosplaying as a Transformer, and I like the anime robot look his head has. The swords are cool, and it's cool that they can be folded back.

His wheel feet make him a little tricky to pose, particularly because the feet and heelspurs are on the same block and so I can't have both touching the ground-it's either one or the other. I have his heelspurs on the ground, and it seems to give him good balance.

The only real detractment I can think of is his kibble. The hood of Sideswipe's car mode splits in two and hangs off his back rather ungainly. I wish that they'd been integrated into the robot mode better.

Anyway, Sideswipe is great.

If Swerve is StrongBad and Dead End is StrongSad, would Sideswipe be Homestar, Bumblebee as The Cheat and the Bike triplets as the Teen Girl Squad? You know... So-And-So, What's-Her-Face and The Ugly One.

Silverdragon, if you think deluxe Sideswipes back kibble is bad, it's nothing compared to Human Alliance Sideswipes back kibble!

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Originally Posted by Stompy

If Swerve is StrongBad and Dead End is StrongSad, would Sideswipe be Homestar, Bumblebee as The Cheat and the Bike triplets as the Teen Girl Squad? You know... So-And-So, What's-Her-Face and The Ugly One.

Silverdragon, if you think deluxe Sideswipes back kibble is bad, it's nothing compared to Human Alliance Sideswipes back kibble!

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The Bike Chicks would be fitting as the Teen Girl Squad, considering that two-thirds of them died. I think Ravage would be the Cheat, and Bumblebee would be Homsar.

I've seen, and I'm glad I have no desire to get any of the HA line.

Also, I was transforming Sideswipe just now, and a small grey peg fell out of him. I can't find any broken areas inside him (he's in robot mode right now and doesn't seem to have anything wrong), and given its resemblance to a sprue peg, I'm guessing it might be the remnant of the casting process that I dislodged.

I thought Wheelie was the Cheat! :D

He has more of that Sidekick thing going.

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Originally Posted by Autocon

blazemaster - best left in alt mode

does the blue tail section snap into place anywhere? and the white piece on top? they just kind of dangle there:confused:

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Pretty much my sentiments. A few weeks back now Jaydisc and I both had some serious cracks at trying to get it right. The think lacks any intuition and there's no solidity to it. In the end I've found a compromise but while the alt mode is very nice and lively, the bot transformaton and bot mode are very disappointing although it should be acknowledged the bot mode can be made to look quite cool. Nothing clicks into place in robot mode and hte articulation is there but useless. You'll find yourself questioning why parts have articulation when there simply isn't enough space to even move that part in the first place. Very crap toy.

I've been unfortunately suckered into getting the RPMs now.

Yes they don't tranform! And they're VERY "plastic". But they still remind me so much of the matchbox style diecast cars I had when I was a kid. I have OP and BB so far. Am really tempted to have a team of Autobot cars now... Damn they're expensive...

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Originally Posted by Kyle

Yes they don't tranform! And they're VERY "plastic". But they still remind me so much of the matchbox style diecast cars I had when I was a kid. I have OP and BB so far. Am really tempted to have a team of Autobot cars now... Damn they're expensive...

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How much are they? I haven't seen any yet.

I've become another victim of Hasbro's shoddy QA. Picked up Dunerunner yesterday - first time I've even seen the bugger in stores - and lo and behold he's missing the pin for his left foot (that attaches the heel spur)!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ner_defect.jpg
I've since refunded the toy. :(

im going to open up alllll my rotf figures just incase :mad:

well i opened up scapel (should have left it unopened now i will never get to sleep at night)

he has a crack in one of the ball joints!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::ma d::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::ma d::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::ma d::mad:


anyone have long anntae scapel that has NO! Q/C drama i could buy?!

I think the ball joint crack on Scalpel is universal the moment you give the figure some decent platime. One of mine had it after the second time I tried to pose him in bot mode. Would have wished he had pin hinges instead of a ball joint considering you really can't get much poses out of the current configuration anyway.

no it was straight out of the packet:(

Just got Arcee today - this toy is all types of FAIL mixed with all types of UBER FAIL. I find it next to impossible to get a half decent pose because of the joint used in the waist area. Anyone else have this issue? Anyone want to show me how they get a passable pose in robot mode?

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Originally Posted by Fungal Infection

Just got Arcee today - this toy is all types of FAIL mixed with all types of UBER FAIL. I find it next to impossible to get a half decent pose because of the joint used in the waist area. Anyone else have this issue? Anyone want to show me how they get a passable pose in robot mode?

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http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/u.../ROTFArcee.jpg

do you think shops are getting in less stock?

the bikes, skids, icecream twins, swerve, gears, I CANT FIND THEM!!

FAB skids grindor

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Originally Posted by Doubledealer

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/u.../ROTFArcee.jpg

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Looking at your pic, I just realised that part of the waist is able to pivot. On my toy, that pivot is so damn tight that I originally thought it couldn't be moved. Still doesn't change the fact the toy is ass though. Chromia is a waaay better motorcycle bot. If only Hasbro had made an extra joint to allow the bot mode to look less like its tilting on one side and more centered, then maybe I wouldn't be so critical of it.

jolt- pretty good i like him, feels solid in both modes though there is a silver drop of paint on his face >.>

dead end - did they use new plastic? it smelt abit when opened, love cololur scheme

fab op - had alot of trouble getting into alt mode, good but tyres are cruddy

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Originally Posted by Fungal Infection

Chromia is a waaay better motorcycle bot. If only Hasbro had made an extra joint to allow the bot mode to look less like its tilting on one side and more centered, then maybe I wouldn't be so critical of it.

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Really? From Stompy's review I got the impression Arcee was the better one because she could twist here torso and look less like a statue. What are the best points of Chromia? I only ask because I don't have either toy myself and I'm just trying to get an impression of both of them as I only want to buy one, the best one.

Hmm maybe I should make a poll?