Filter fighter + Liberal young gun: Jamie Briggs
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All I can say is abso-friggin-lutely it will affect who I vote for. It is the single piece of legislation I am totally against and will not support any party who wants to impose this.
Same here. It's the key reason why I'm not voting Labor this election.
Forgot to post this yesterday:
5 ways around the filter in 2 minutes [Video]
http://twitter.com/scott_thewspot/status/20371070555
Encouraging news if true, but don't celebrate yet until the policy is killed (or voted down if legislation is ever tabled).Quote:
Hockey just stated on JJJ Hack that Libs will *not* support internet filter and they will have more detail soon
That at least sounds promising. Best news I've had all day!Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
IT Journo Renai Lemay has confirmed that the Opposition won't support the filter in the Senate.
So looks like Hockey's comments tonight is indeed official Liberal party stance.Quote:
OK, I have had it confirmed, this means the Coalition will vote against this in the senate
Scott Ludlam PR:
Mandatory net censorship win
Well that is a good sign, though I don't like the Libs work choices crap. Either way, can't really win :p
Coalition to block Conroy's internet filter
Liberals would scrap Labor's net filter
Libs filter decision applauded
Liberals to slash net filter
Hockey: The Coalition will not vote for a mandatory ISP filter
Is It All Over? Coalition Will Block The Filter
Is Conroy’s internet censorship scheme dead? [Video]
Coalition to dump internet filter
Hooray! Not only do I finally have something the Coalition is doing that I agree with, but more importantly this means it'll never make it past the Senate!
*Does little happy dance, then goes off to look up some pro-euthanasia sites - BECAUSE I CAN.*
If the Labor powers-that-be are smart they'll let this one quietly drop, though I doubt Conroy will let his baby die without a host of inane accusations of people being pro-child porn.
Great news! Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere in the media yet, but does anyone know what this means for Optus and Telstra as they said they would introduce mandatory filtering before the end of the year regardless of this legislation.
As long as no Liberals cross the floor if legislation ever gets tabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Doubtful they'll drop it. Gillard was defending the policy earlier today, and went on the usual "illegal" and "you can't see it in cinemas" spiel.Quote:
If the Labor powers-that-be are smart they'll let this one quietly drop, though I doubt Conroy will let his baby die without a host of inane accusations of people being pro-child porn.
Not sure about that. It's something I'd like to know too.Quote:
but does anyone know what this means for Optus and Telstra as they said they would introduce mandatory filtering before the end of the year regardless of this legislation
Well I am really stoked that the Liberals have finally come out and said their position on it. It is a swing in the right direction for a downright scary policy.
Personally, I'm glad that the Liberals have chosen to not support the filter (but for how long?) at least that way it more or less ensures that the legislation is never going to make it through the senate. :D
Still wont sway me towards voting for the coalition solely on this issue though.
Filter will be “exorcised” if it returns, says Turnbull
As long as no Libs cross the floor to vote against the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Same here, though I may preference them a little higher than I was planning to.Quote:
Still wont sway me towards voting for the coalition solely on this issue though.
Even though the governments internet filter appears to be dead in the water, Optus and Telstra are going ahead with theirs :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Telstra and Optus to start 'clean feed' to block child pornography web pages
I am ashamed to be working for Optus and will cancel my internet with them despite the fact I get it for free being an employee. I'm sure many will feel the same. Watch their subscriber base move away in droves.
I had heard about that. Somewhere I saw that even if the legislation gets blocked in the senate, Optus and Telstra will make there own modifications. Makes me glad we ultimately chose TPG over Telstra (aside from the fact that we get 40G compared to the 12G that Telstra had at the same price)
Pretty disgraceful, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Seems that Telstra and Optus think their customers are criminals.
EDIT: Michael Malone tweeted earlier:
So the fight ain't over yet.Quote:
Today on 2CS, Conroy says he'll "seek changes at censorship board level" to get around senate block.
I'm sorry to hear this news, as I've no doubt that people will feel the same way and it speaks volumes of the level of support it has if even Telstra's and Optus' own staff don't approve of the idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Whilst it will be an added expense for you now 5FDP, like 1AZRAEL1, I can happily and highly recommend TPG.com.au. :D
I told you that the big Telcos are only out for your money. :p:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
And their share holders couldn't be happier! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
I pity those who are currently with the big Telcos: exorbitant costs, poor service, poor coverage and soon to be poor transfer speeds (up/down) with their proposed filters.
And it looks to get worse if the current Opposition wins Government at the next election, cans the NBN and introduces their abortion of a policy that they announced today in addressing Broadband in this country, over wireless??? :confused::mad::rolleyes:
I can't begin to state the monumental flaws in their proposal that basically go absolutely nowhere to address anything at all.
Well that sucks. All I can say is Conroy is a f***mook. (I watched once upon a time in mexico last night and burst out laughing when I heard it)
ha whos with telstra?:mad: rang up upport and got indain girl *shakes head
Annoyingly I missed the ICT Debate today, but managed to catch it just as they started answering questions, they being:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
Senator Stephen Conroy: Labor (Communications Minister)
Senator Tony Smith: Liberal/Coalition (Shadow Communications Minister)
Senator Scott Ludlam: Greens
Watching it, I wish we could elect individuals for individual roles, as Senator Ludlam is the only one of the 3 who understands anything in I.T. IMO.
I didn't think it were possible, but Senator Smith is even less informed than Conroy - and Conroy's level of knowledge requires an electron microscope to measure, but he'd probably filter it so we'd never find out.
I couldn't believe the guy, or the policy, not supporting the filter is one thing and a step in the right direction but to put forward what he/they did is like taking a Delorean back to the 1960's with a wooden Flux Capacitor.
Thanks Hursticon. I view it (the job) as being a means to an end only. What annoys me is that none of the staff was consulted on this decision and we actually found out through internal commuincations after it had been reported on by the press.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
TPG does sound like a great alternative.
If it was on paper or email, any chance you could "leak" that internal communications? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Ummm... no chance whatsoever. I may complain about it on occasion, but IQuote:
Originally Posted by SGB
likeneed my job too much ;)
I could point you in the direction of the discussion paper that was submitted. It's on a public domain and freely accessible.
Complete morons ay. I love how they want to introduce it, and make people pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGB
A few articles today ...
Apps and games to face censor, says ALP (looks as if ALP's trying to kill the mobile app content industry)
Labor Government has mobile phone games in classification fee crosshairs
Greens announce cyber-safety policy
Greens torpedo any chance of internet filter (I wouldn't say it's torpedoed just yet)
Greens would require ISPs to offer PC-based net filters
Greens side with Coalition on internet filtering policy
Greens unveil rival cyber-safety policy
Greens propose a more comprehensive approach to protecting young people online
Btw, the following was tweeted about 40 minutes ago by the Liberal Party on their official Twitter account:
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The Coalition will not introduce an internet filter. It is flawed technology and will not fix the problem
Conroy: Too early for filter last rites
Parliament decides if filter is dead: Conroy (Seems to me they've already decided, Senator.)
Refused classification could prove death knell for Labor filter
Conroy: I’ll never bring the filter in without a vote
People power killed the filter (misleading headline as the filter ain't dead yet)
Fight The Filter: The Summary
ELECTION 2010 EXCLUSIVE: Face-to-face with Senator Stephen Conroy (Conroy's proving himself to be a hyprocrite when he says he's democratic)
Labor's internet filter questioned by key-seat hope
Holy crap, I met this guy ten years ago when he used to work at the 10 Network's Warrawong office.