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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW0B0HsvVs
And now a longer teaser.
Can't take that logo seriously, reminds me too much of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmX12mFoeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHNKziN-fE
Then that reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJFsRPniBM
Time to ruin the mystery behind a classic character with unnecessary backstory?
I mean the trailers fine, but I don't really need to see the lesser adventures of young Solo, couldn't they just have a new character with a Solo cameo?
Thought that as long it isn't Rian Johnson directing no explanation is required. :)
I don't wish to prejudge the movie but I thought the trailer was pretty underwhelming. Combined with all the dramas surrounding the making of the movie I won't be in a rush to see it.
I think I know where you are coming from. Han's younger & lesser adventures may somehow detract from his persona &/or ruin the mystery. I disagree. I'm looking forward to looking backward in time to see the events that helped shape the man he is today, not just from trilogy series. 'Lesser' adventures does not necessarily equate to unworthy or unnecessary backstory IMO.
Although different, it reminds me when distinguished music artist 'come out of retirement' to pursue their love of their career. Some fans will always reject the revival. Please don't go ruining the legacy you left us with, blah, blah, blah. We want to remember you as you were then, blah, blah, blah.
On other news game of thrones people are asked to do a new Star Wars trilogy.
This is how Disney has taken feedback about Rian's take and not sure they be doing his trilogy.
I don't think is bad but yeah after the last Jedi, kinda lost for a good Star Wars movie especially this was budgeted.
Face it, disney will milk this cash cow until it is dry and people get tired of "yet another" Star Wars movie. And then they'll milk it some more.
They spent a lot of money buying the franchise, and even though will make back many times more, it will have a big permanent place in their themeparks, all without paying anyone for licensing anymore.
I think it will be a bit like Star Trek movies... the novelty will wear off eventually, after 10 or 12 movies.... and then we will see a reboot, which won't appeal to anyone older than 20, who had grown up on the original Star Wars movies and prequels.
I don't mind them making side stories. Star Wars has long had this, only that it's previously existed in books and comics. Now we're also seeing it in films. The main difference is that there's a new medium in which the SW universe is being expanded.
Catch up . Lol
It's basically been announced by Kat
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....tar-wars-films
Problem is they realise they really pissed off enough fans on the last Jedi and hence they might be loosing or winning only half the battle. Less profits for everything including people boycotting Solo.
For every one person who totally dismissed the latest episode is actually a lost.
Is like Michael bays transformers. He lost me for good for cinemas. I just watch on tv or whatever as the story is out of weck.
Star Trek has became a bit weaker lately as well, and is fading if they don't give good stories. I was slightly bored on the last Star Trek.
I am not worried about Rian Johnson's trilogy. (I dont think I care). I am using common sense, you will be updated about that trilogy and I can guess it will be on hold at the moment. You can't make money with half audiences, that will be the final judgement.
Like said I am not a star wars fan. But yeah I dont see running 6 star wars movies within now till 2025. Kind of "huh? which trilogy is which?". Ur no brainier either one might be delayed or even cancelled.
Not to forget a Kenobi flim and a mobba fatt flim. One too many.
I'm not super hyped about it but I thought the preview looked interesting. I like the idea of a heist movie in star wars.
Overall though I think I would prefer the spin off movies to be things that explore the SW universe in ways that aren't necessarily related to the movies that have come before.
Star Wars isn’t immune to franchise fatigue, but we’re a long way off from that. I mean techincally the current Star Wars run has been going since the mid 90’s and its still going strong.
Sure there was a bit of fanboy rage at the Last Jedi but look at the furore over The Phantom Menace, which didn’t impact on the box office performance of the subsequent prequels.
The only chink in the armour for the Solo movie is how the actor portrays the title character. If rumours are true, the news isn’t good. And the trailer didn’t do much to allay my fears.
I have enjoyed some of the previews recently and I am looking forward to watching it but I don't have the hype levels of the other 3 new movies.
Some of the character and trooper designs look great so I will probably be getting a few figures. The Lando Black Series figure probably should have had an extra head I think, to go along with the raised eyebrow one.
This is not a particularly good movie.
I wasn't expecting a big film like I did with Force Awakens and Last Jedi (which left me very disappointed). The films were alright I did enjoy them like I did with the Prequel films (I'm in the minority who actually thinks the Prequel films are better than the sequel films).
Only problems is that it introduces a few new characters without giving much explanation, plus many other things that aren't explained while because of how slow the pacing in the film is, which lends to believe that there will be a bunch of new Han Solo films (because Disney REALLY wants to milk the shit out of the Star Wars films)
Not the Minority, I did't particularly like the prequels but it didn't bothered me including jar jar binks. I felt overall it was good enough.
For sequels though, I didn't mind TFA until TLJ came which made me don't like both. It feels like whoever is "looking after" this trilogy is doing a bad job of holding the pieces and is a poorly told story.
And I agree, it feels like they are inserting new characters that will not join up, but I dont think the care factor is there anymore.
I enjoyed it. Very watchable, not as dank as Rogue One or The Last Jedi. Alden did a good job as Han, he wasn’t as wooden as I’d feared. Not a lot of character development, and I do hope there is more Lando in the future.
I'm going to watch it tomorrow.
On one hand, I'm not hyped due to the controversy surrounding the making of this film.
On the other hand, I'm hyped that this movie doesn't have as dark a disposition when compared to more recent Star Wars movies.
All up, I'm curious to see how this stands alongside Rogue One.
I saw it on release night and was not particularly impressed. In my estimation, there are three main issues with this film.
1. They've not been able to properly patch over the trouble production.
The film essentially has one pace, being that stuff sort of happens at a middling speed. It's not really slow enough paced to be outright boring, it's not quick enough paced to be a rush.
In terms of tone at times the film was entirely schizophrenic. For example, the Kessel scenes literally juxtapose incredibly cruel treatment of Wookie slaves with slapstick humour droid uprising scenes shot by shot.
It comes across entirely as what it is - a film worked on by two different teams with two very different creative visions that was in the end cobbled together and rushed out the door when in an ideal world either a) more time and budget would have been given to Ron Howard, or even better b) Lucasfilm would have chosen the initial creative team better.
2. There's no real journey.
This probably relates to the troubled production mentioned above, but you don't ever see Han develop as a character through this film. He begins as a streetwise snarky criminal who yearns for bigger things and trusts no one except those close to him (Q'ira, at that time). He ends the film as a streetwise snarky criminal who yearns for bigger things and trusts no one except those close to him (Chewbacca).
The one character who does seem to have an interesting journey, being Q'ira who went from a seemingly wide eyed urchin to an organised crime lietenant, has any explanation of this journey hand waved away about 4 or 5 times throughout the film. All we hear is that she's done terrible things that she doesn't want to talk about. Then she betrays Han.
3. It was not a particularly ambitious film.
I don't want to come over all RedLetterMedia, but at times it did feel like a bit of a box ticking exercise for Han and Chewie background lore. Han meets Chewie, Han gets his DL-44, Han meets Lando, Han has some kind of falling out with Lando, Han gets the Falcon, Han makes the Kessel Run, Han ends up working for gangesters.
It doesn't push any envelopes - it doesn't present Star Wars in a way that we've never seen before on the big screen like Rogue One did, and it doesn't develop the core mythology of the franchise or have a strong message like The Last Jedi did.
In that way Solo is probably most comparable to The Force Awakens, which was by comparison an incredibly slick production, the release of which was in an entirely different context to the release of Solo.
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In conclusion, I thought it was the worst of the four films that have been released since the Disney takeover.
There were a lot of things about it that I did like, but compared to the above they're all superficial bits and bobs. I enjoyed the links to the Clone Wars and Rebels television shows, as well as the wider Canon and Legends lore. I continue to enjoy the commitment to using practical effects and real props and sets in the Disney era Star Wars films. I thought the actors were all actually decent, especially Alden Ehrenreich who I thought did a very very good job.
Oh, and as for THAT cameo - despite my above comments about enjoying the link to the lore, it felt needless and gratuitous. It was to me at about the level of Jyn/Cassian running into Dr Ezavan and Ponda Baba in Jedha City in Rogue One. Not a fan.
I am in love with Enfys Nest, her gorgeous red hair, and adorable freckles. Please someone tell me the actress is an adult and I am not being creepy. I want a Forces of Destiny doll of her, now!
I'm very hesitant to watch this as it seems that the writers couldn't even get what was established in the script without coming close to veering off a cliff. It was originally established in canon that Han was a young imperial officer who got court-marshalled because he liberated Chewie, whom he met as a slave - hence the Wookie life debt. Yet at one point there were going to have Han join the Corellian Army and I've seen nothing to suggest that they've even kept that Han Chewie relationship dynamic in place.
The thing that annoys me with all of this is that much like the way they killed off Kyle Katarn because "grrl powa", it seems that everything which came out of LucasArts, which should have been untouchable, has just been crapped on for the sake of filmmakers who clearly don't have respect for the mythology or the fanbase and appear to simply see cheap political pandering as a means to $$$.
In fact what happened to Kyle Katarn is the reason why I have't watched a single Star Wars film since TFA.
How much longer before we all start crying out "Come back George! All is forgiven!"?
I must have missed that. I completely bought the cover story, which is that it was done for a clean slate after two decades of often contradictory and increasingly absurd EU content all premised on the fact that thered be no more movies.
I've done some reading through and you're right, Kyle Katarn was murdered in the streets because women deemed it so. Or hated his beard. Or something.
Jesus Christ...
^^
It took me a few minutes to get the jist of what you were saying and realise I was agreeing with you :D
I’ve enjoyed the Legends series since Zahn’s novels but its just too painful to work new movies into the web of pre-existing media. Even Solo has references to other canon material which if you didn’t know about, would make you go, “WTF?”
Look, I’m probably putting my head in the lion’s mouth here, and this is not meant to insult anyone - your viewpoint is as valid as mine - but...
Canon, shmanon.
Who cares if it contradicts what has come before? Give me a good story and I’m happy (which is not necessarily saying Solo is a good story well told), continuity be damned. I can enjoy either story, and believe what I choose.
I love the Ralph Waldo Emerson quote: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...” (google the rest of the quote, totally worth it). Not saying anyone here is small-minded for having an opinion, but art is much better enjoyed when one lets go of any pre-conceived ideas of what it ‘should be’. Same goes for the fanboy gnashing of teeth over TLJ, in my humble opinion.
Totally agree M, it's entertainment and therefore nothing is writ in stone.
That said I really didn't want to see Solo, because of the directoral changes, because it was another bloody starwars movie but this is a thing I do with my nephew and his dad, it's our thing and I really enjoyed it and it's one movie I wouldn't mind having a sequel to.
Your response here is absurd and steeped in a false equivalency fallacy. It's one thing to scrap the Zahn novels, the Anderson novels and everything else that can be summed up, with 3 words - "licenced third party".
These projects never came from the Lucasfilm Group itself and therefore all bets should rightly have been off with them.
Do you know what was a part of the Lucasfilm Group? Lucasarts.
Do you know what came out of the Lucasfilm Group? Every single Star Wars game, including the entire Dark Forces series. In fact, just like Prince Xizor and Dash Rendar, Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors should have been every bit as off limits for removing from canon as Admiral Ackbar or Mon Montha.
When were those characters created by Lucasfilm? Oh yes - Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors were created in 1995, while Prince Xizor and Dash Rendar were created in 1996.
All four were created before the Special Edition Trilogy, let alone the Prequels, so your entire argument here is utter fallacy. In fact Shadows of the Empire was a Lucasfilm Group major release at the time which was designed to be everything but a movie- with even its own dedicated toyline.
It is utterly fallacious to compare that to the likes of the Thrawn Trilogy or the Jedi Academy Trilogy.
And no, it is absolutely not the same thing to eliminate one of those characters from star wars lore, as it is to eliminate the likes of Kyp Duron (who happens to be one of my favourite eu characters btw).
Likewise, the Han/Chewie backstory I'm referring to came straight from Lucasfilm back in 1994 by way of the Star Wars Screen Entertainment PC program
The fact is that if Disney can't respect their own characters (as opposed to third party characters) and their own in house developed stories, enough to work around them, then I struggle to see why I should invest in any of their movies enough to watch them. In fact, I have little doubt that they'd slice up the OT and PT on the cutting room floor if they could get away with it.
Even then I'm simply saying I'm on the fence until I know that they've respected that original story between Han and Chewie (Han throwing away a highly promising career in the Imperial navy to protect Chewie- a wookie he'd never met before). Lose that and you lose a huge chunk of what makes the life debt and their bond so amazing to begin with. Lose that and I lose all interest in seeing it.
The difference is that we're not talking about here isn't in the same category as the Zahn Trilogy, or any other piece of what should actually be EU - things which simply licensed Star Wars Trademarks and created stories and characters with minimal, at best, involvement by the Lucasfilm Group.
What we are talking about is what the Lucasfilm group established themselves - in house. Anything which fell under that category should have been as sacrosanct as the movies.
And yet, for someone so quick to talk about art, I find it telling that you ignore the fact that if the artist doesn't respect the medium, the art piece they're creating ultimately suffers. A good story can be a myopic bit of fun froth on top, or it can be deep, profound and memorable. Your argument fails to draw that distinction or recognise which will have the longer lasting legacy.
Meanwhile, letting go of expectations has done wonders to increasingly worsen the quality of Bayformers. Also it speaks volumes about the discernment of modern cinema-goers when a film like Age of Ex-stink-tion can be rated as both the worst movie of the year and one of the highest grossing films of the year.
The fact is that it would be entirely possible to create a great film that is well crafted and respects the pre-existing world it is created in. But then why bother with that as a film making company, when audiences will still hand over their money by the truckload for something far less polished.
No matter how much you tell yourself otherwise, this isn't art for the sake of art; this is a business. If companies see that people will pay by the truckload for crap, they'll serve up crap by the truckload. Why? Because when people will pay for crap, giving them quality actually costs you money.
When you say "switch off and enjoy it" what you're actually saying is "send these companies an even louder message that they'll pay for whatever is dished up.
See here's the thing. This is all about the money. Some bean counter in Disney ran some sums and decided that there was little to no money in the older fans, or that alienating them came with absolutely no risk. Likewise, they tokenistically decided that jumping on the diversity bandwagon is going to make them a heap of money so they went there. It's not about actually empowering people; it's about looking enough like you are so that people will hand over their money to you.
Maybe the "fanboy gnashing of teeth over TLJ" wouldn't be as strong if Disney weren't constantly agitating the older fanbase - the reason the property was so attractive to buy to begin with - by saying things like the new films aren't made for them at all - which the "fanboys" reasonably take to mean "we don't care about you, we don't want you - now shut up and piss off". People can't poke the bear and then be surprised when they get mauled by it.
You do realise I was using a figure of speech?
Oh please, "Come back George! All is forgiven" is not a figure of speech, a turn of phrase, a colloquialism or an analogy.
Then I guess the editors of the Shorter Dictionary of Catch Phrases didn't get that memo.
They note:
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come back..., all is forgiven is a jocularly despairing appeal to one who has left a particular post or organisation in which his or her know-how would now be useful, or somebody despised or disgraced by somebody worse, as in come back Margaret Thatcher, all is forgiven. The phrase has been used in this way since around 1950. See also come home, all is forgiven.
I was surprised to see that this movie cost over US$250 million (some estimates are over 300, and that's even before 100+ spent on marketing)... one of the most expensive movies ever, and yet it isn't an "epic" type of movie like Infinity War, which was only a little more expensive to make.
(I guess reshooting over 2/3s of the movie, will make it more expensive than the result will look like it cost.)
That aside, despite being a little slow in parts, it wasn't too bad. Nothing too unusual or surprising, like prequel movies, which were also finally showing us things that we already knew about.
I still just don't like the choice of actor for Han, since Harrison Ford was such an iconic actor for the role, it really ruins the feel of the movie to have someone who doesn't look or sound, or behave like the original Movies Solo. Since they were going for a no-name actor for the role, couldn't they have at least find someone who looked a little like Harrison Ford... or one of those impersonators.
I'm sure you know that the only material which is sacrosanct, and has only every been treated as such, has been the 6x movies because they were created by Lucas. And now the cartoon series come to think of it.
Your opinion that any material from LucasArts should be treated the same as the movies is simply that: an opinion. If Lucas made a storyline decision which shat all over the canon of the games, then his opinion would have overridden it.
The head honchos who run Lucasfilm have made the call. You can keep dwelling on it or enjoy the next stage of the epic space fantasy we all love.
The problem with origin stories is that there is no tension whatsoever about whether the protagonist or his furry sidekick will survive, because you know they will. Kinda like when watching Black Panther, I had zero concern about the main character getting stabbed and kicked off a waterfall given he was appearing in Infinity War. It's certainly the weaker of the Star Wars movies so far, but it wasn't as terrible as I'd feared.