Two different sources on Facebook are reporting Fort max as encore 23, released in Feb 2013. Bbts has preorders up, $350 for the slow shipment -$399 for air shipment. Postage is $104 to Sydney.
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Two different sources on Facebook are reporting Fort max as encore 23, released in Feb 2013. Bbts has preorders up, $350 for the slow shipment -$399 for air shipment. Postage is $104 to Sydney.
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Sweet! At least I dont have to pay $1000+ for one, much cheaper.:)
I was just about to post about this!! saw the advert on BBTS email.
AWESOME.
I wonder if Robot Kingdom will be any cheaper? they don't list it yet.
BBTS early shipment $400
slow shipment $350.
There goes one of your April fools Jokes Gok.:D
Jesus.
I guess someone in a suit realised how much some people were spending on 3rd party combiners...
Oh and 6 months to save is pretty thoughtful too.
Okay now if this is true I hope we get a Grand Max. Dont really believe this yet. Need more evidence its real.
I just checked BBTS, it's $104 for shipping on any number of them. The problem is we can only get a max of 2 at a time to dodge any taxes on them. Group orders will be a lot harder for him.
Keen to see what the yen price is...
Also there is the POL system with them so it'll be alright you can still squeeze a couple more small ones in there heheheh :D
BUT wait... you sure this isnt... a prank?:confused::confused: or a prophecy fulfilled... Does Gok know something we don't???
http://heroicdecepticon.blogspot.com...-fortress.html
but then I checked out BBTS
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/p...78&mode=retail
IT IS REAL WOhoooo!!!!!
Wow...I must be dreaming.
Guess this makes me happy for a little while!
Wonder if RK will be cheaper:D:D
Wonder if they'll do grand max?
Wow.
I already have a Max but it required considerably restoration to make him look mint on my shelf so he isn't exactly 'C9'. As a result I am torn on the actual 'need' to buy a new Max when my restored one will probably look just a as good (and with better plastic/material quality) and buying an 'untouched' Encore Max but with likely lesser material quality.
Plus there is also the almost guaranteed factor that there will be a Grand Max repaint which I will also want to get. Three Maxes seem too much, specially when two would be somewhat the same...
Looks like I already know what I'll be saving up for next after I get MP10 TRU OP!! :D :) Hmmm... I paid $300 for MISB Brave Maximus and $100 for insured postage... so $400 for toy + postage isn't too bad I suppose. Maybe we should organise a Sydney group order in pairs? i.e. people interested can post and "pair up" with a partner? <shrugs> Or maybe I should wait for the Yen price... might be cheaper to get it direct from Japan.
Not the first time too! I made an April Fools Joke about Masterpiece Grimlock, and then that came true! :D I was secretly hoping that lightning might strike twice and another one of my April Fools jokes would come true too. Yay! (still no sign of MP Jetfire though :p)
All I have to say is.......
TOLD YOU SO!!!!! :D:D:D
During the Cybertron-con at Singapore in March, TakaraTomy never denied the question when we asked if there rumour was true about the Encore Fort Max.
The Brave Max I recently got was 30000yen plus 11000yen EMS postage which worked out to be $525 total with PayPal.
.... *pats himself on the back after telling this very website more than a year ago this would happen*....
Yes.... I told you so.
So what was all that stuff about Fort Max failing the "drop test"? Was that just for the USA? :confused:
Anyway, this will be a Japanese mass release, so wait for Amiami etc to list competitively. That should be considerably cheaper than BBTS, although they may not let you order more than one.
As far as customs goes, personally I wasn't charged for a few orders that were a few hundred over the $1K limit. Although they were declared in JPY, so maybe they just didn't want to do any math... :rolleyes:
I didn't really think it would happen but I'm so glad that it has.
I won't be ordering from bbts I'm hoping that hlj put it up with a 20% early bird preorder but maybe that's hoping for to much. I think if this sells well that a grand max reissue will happen and it'll open the door for scorponok and black zarack.
@ Tober: Maybe they just don't care anymore about them drop tests :D. Maybe they finally realized, this toy is for collectors NOT for kids who might get hurt with such a big heavy toy.:D I doubt any parent would fork out that much for a toy to their kid anyhow, unless the kid is old enough to handle it. Or maybe theyve changed the plastic material that it wont do that splintering as with our new toys most feel "different" nowadays in plastic feel compared with the old... well it's gonna be from Japan they don't have them drop test, drop test, to worry about either way Im very happy.
An eventual Grand Max repaint would be awesome as well so I can finally own all three in a muuuuch cheaper way.:D:D:D of course if they also would like to do a Brave Max repaint, Id welcome that so I can have it all 3 brand new - my original Brave Max will then be in city mode for display as I really prefer Brave Max's colors for the city mode first time I saw it at that 2006 toy convention at Wharf 8 ( griffin's toy display).
@ Gok: - hehehe keep making "prophecies" like that eh, I even posted the link of HD crediting you as his source on that April fools Joke post he made... now do Overlord!!:D
@ kup: Aww cmon, get him - then display whicever is prettier in bot mode and the other in city mode for a diorama display:D
@UltraMagnus: I seem to remember about that cryptic post you made... and you did say , coming from a very very credible source - you can't divulge much at that time coz that guy might get in trouble with the powers that be at HAstak ;).....
@swoop - oh yeah Black Zarak!! I want one too, a cheap one with no gold plastic syndrome!
I wonder how will all those previous Maxiis on ebay wil fare now? :rolleyes: Would this bring down the price or jack it up even more?
I am going to have to save a whoooole lot more. :o:o:o
People have been speculating over this release for many years now, it was inevitable really but still great news for anyone that wants a complete minty fresh one without spending over 1k.
The appeal is lost on me. Having grown up in the 80's in Oz and only watching the cartoon and reading the Marvel comic series, I wasn't really exposed all that much to Fortress Maximus. Don't get me wrong, I can understand why many of you are excited, I personally can't justify spending $400+ (including shipping) on what is essentially a brick.
I'm thinking that since BBTS is going to be double-handling with heavy postage it's probably going to be better to order from Amiami or HLJ or somewhere else straight from Japan. After they've already bought this one, I wonder how many people are going to get the $#!*$ if Encore 24 is Grand Max with the pretender shell? ;)
Now everyone can get one MISB! Wonderful news! If Takara then decides to reissue Scorponok (if FM can why not Scorpy?) then the price should be half of FM, bring it on.
Good news!:). not seeing the swords though. I wonder what style/material the box will be.
I must've been looking at the wrong picture:o
Fort Max is a Brick but so are most of the G1's, I love the 80s robot style far more than the later stuff (but thats just me :o )
Can't wait!! Knew this would happen, but great to see it's finally official!! :)
Now please tell me which horse will win this year's Melbourne Cup! :D :p
Anyway, I personally never believe in anything until it's officially announced because I don't wanna get my hopes up in case it doesn't happen! ;) I'm totally gonna get Encore Fortress Maximus. Firstly because I just want a MISB complete Fort Max, but also I hope that this toy will sell well and prompt TakaraTOMY to do more reissues -- especially more big cityformer reissues like Trypticon (they used the mould for Gigastorm in Beast Wars!) and Scorponok (not sure if they still have the mould... hope so!) etc.
Yeah, that's only in America. That's why Takara was able to release Brave Maximus for Car Robot, but Hasbro couldn't release it as Fortress Maximus for Robots In Disguise.
To be honest, Fortress Maximus really isn't that impressive a Transformer action figure, even by G1 standards. The transformation/engineering isn't all that clever -- toys like Triggerhappy and Snapdragon have far more interesting designs. And the size kinda makes him hard to interact with other Transformers as an action figure. Marvel Comic artists had to significantly downsize him to make him work, like going toe to toe with Galvatron. Toywise Fort Max could just step on Galvatron (whereas in the comics Galvatron could wrestle with Fort Max and rip his circuitry out with his bare teeth!). But Fortress Maximus is a really impressive play set for other Transformers! And unlike Metroplex who's really a playset for the smaller carded Transformers (specifically the Scramble City gestalt limbformers, but Mini-bots work too), Fortress Maximus can work with the larger boxed Autobots! He has all kinds of neat play features like the ramps, launchers, lift, prison etc. that make him a really cool play set. Much better than the Cyberverse rubbish. :p
The real "action figure" feature is in Cerebros -- they made him a Headmasters too (w/ Spike) so that he could be interactive with the other Autobot Headmasters (this play pattern was heavily promoted in the Headmasters anime series) -- but let's face it, Cerebros sucks compared to any of the other Headmasters (because he's just a head... you'd certainly never buy this toy on its own!). But yeah, the real appeal of the toy is as a playset. Oh, and the size is bloody impressive!! :D When my daughter was born I couldn't resist doing this...
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IMO $300 for a MISB Fortress Maximus reissue is a good price. It's what I paid for my Brave Maximus, so I consider that within the RRP range (albeit at the upper end - but still acceptable :)). It's a helluva lot cheaper than what you'd pay for a MISB G1 Fortress Maximus now... my G1 Fort Max cost me about $300 and it's yellowed and incomplete (no weapons/radar). So I'm more than happy to pay $300 for an Encore Fort Max... plus it means I still won't be breaking my record of paying $300 for a single toy (Brave Max remains the most expensive TF I've ever purchased -- so this will match it, but won't exceed it -- I don't _want_ to break this record! (unless the toy is bigger/better than a MISB Maximus)
eHobby should totally do Grand Maximus. Still can't believe TakTOM didn't do eHobby Metrotitan. :rolleyes: Gah! I can't find our phone card to call overseas... I wanna call TakaraTOMY and get confirmation about this news (and also ask about the RRP) ... I'll have to wait for the missus to get home (cos she usually uses the card). Anyone else able to call them first?
Fortress Maximus was a prominent character in the G1 comics (or as Grimlock calls him, "Forky Maxiface"), which is also part of the appeal of this toy to me. :) In Transformers Prime, the Autobot Elite Guard ship that Ultra Magnus/Sentinel Prime used was called the Steelhaven, which of course was also the name of the ship commanded by Fortress Maximus in G1. :D
Semi-excited I guess. I already have Brave Maximus, so I don't know if I want to shell out the money....:confused:
That's fair enough. Considering that this is the biggest most expensive (RRP) toy ever, I can definitely understand people not wanting to get this toy unless they were absolutely 100% convinced that they wanted it. It's certainly not something you'd buy on some impulsive whim! :) Also, when we take off our rose-tinted G1 nostalgia glasses, Brave Maximus really is the best looking version of that mould anyway.
Gok's "babies" :D
oh and Gok you can complete that Fort Max you have now if it's just the radar and a few guns, cheaply I may add. But knowing you, you're probably averse to getting resin replicas to substitute for the real thing. You've seen my Brave Max guns right - same stuff but cheaper - I got mine for $50 but this costs less. pm if interested so Ill send you the ... oh wait you dont have an ebay account:mad::mad::mad: oh for crying out loud get an ebay account will yah!!
NOOOO E hobby should not do this, why because they charge FREAKIN MUCH!! It should just be a regular Taktom Encore release, E-hobby just ruins any savings by charging for items like it's gilded in gold or something - e.g. Omega Sentinel costs double of what Encore Omega Supreme costs - unreal!! and its not even colored well, just plain jane blue and white! :mad::mad:BS pricing....
Pppffftt! eBay's for... people who use eBay. :p Besides, once I get Encore Fort Max, this'll all be irrelevant -- I'll have all the accessories I need! Yesss... ;) Plus a minty new Fort Max that isn't all faded and yellowed like mine. Also, I can display the reissue in robot mode and the original in battleship mode! :D
:confused: Encore Omega Supreme's RRP is 10,000JPY ($125) and eHobby GADEP's RRP is 13,000JPY ($163) -- so it's a price difference of 3000JPY ($37.53, or a 20% increase; possibly to cover the cost of the exclusive packaging and comic book -- most eHobbies just come in that generic packaging). Although at the time 13000JPY was more like $200 because the Australian Dollar was so weak. :( But still... certainly nowhere near being "double" the RRP of Encore Omega Supreme. And GADEP was the most 'inflated' eHobby toy (i.e. compared to the cost of their regular retail counterpart's RRP). The majority of eHobby exclusives' RRPs are 'uninflated' though.
I hope that there'll be enough market demand for Encore Fortress Maximus and he doesn't languish as a shelfwarmer like other big expensive Encores. Already we're seeing people here talk about how they can't justify the cost of getting this toy because they either have the original G1 toy or Brave Maximus... or they just don't want to get such an expensive item at all. I really don't know if there's enough demand to warrant a regular retail release of an Encore Grand Maximus -- releasing both in the mainstream market would have them cross-competing with each other. You and I may buy both, but a lot of people wouldn't. That's why I think it makes more sense to have it as a more limited eHobby exclusive -- not to shaft fans/collectors, but to make it viable for TakaraTOMY to do it without suffering a loss.
This was a big surprise last night and I quickly put a preorder in a BBTS since why not? Doesn't cost me anything yet.
Then in the morning I woke up and looked at my (still quite new to me, but a bit worn) Fortress Maximus sitting on my drawers and wondered do I really need two?
Fortress Maximus. Fun gimmicks and just by pure size it's damn impressive looking in any collection. But I think part of what made Fort Max such an appealing toy to buy was that it was, until now, generally unobtainable.
Due to price and rarity, having a Fortress Maxmius was a status symbol. It showed you're a little insane to spend so much on a figure, but that you were truly committed to your Transformer collecting . You hunted down parts, or used chemicals to get the white back. You didn't acquire a Fort Max lightly (unless you fluked an opp shop find as has happened).
Now that it's a newly mass-produced figure, that specialness has gone. When the orders start coming in and twenty people in a row post their Fort Max acquisition it wont be the same as the rare acquisitions they've been in the past.
Perhaps Grand Max will fill that void now? Or an intact Black Zarak? Or another Japanese figure. I don't think any other Western release will quite match Fort Max as a object of desire, and that's a little sad.
I'm kind of hoping the Brave Max prices drop. It might happen since I think a lot of the interest in that figure was that it was the cheapest way to get the mold. (And I need one to finish my RID show cast collection)
Regardless getting a nice new MISB version of a G1 toy is great. Long live the Encore line.
PRE-ORDERED. WOOO!