Robots In Disguise 2015 toys - general/group comments, review links & official pics

With most of this line being gimmick and simplistic, many of the figures won't generate enough interest or replies for individual review topics... so this topic can be for things like (as a guide only)...
- group photos
- wave-wide comments
- gimmick reviews and comments
- comparisons
- etc.

Hopefully this gives more people an ability/incentive to comment on the more obscure items within the adult fandom, without clogging up the reviews section with dozens of unused review topics.

The toys that are of more interest to us older collectors will be the ones that will spawn individual review topics, and will be linked to below.

YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO START A SEPARATE REVIEW if you have acquired something that isn't linked to below. These links are for convenience/reference, NOT the only toys that can have a separate review.

OFFICIAL IMAGES that members here can use anywhere on this site are also to be added below. (insert the image by its web-address into any post here - but NO hotlinking of these images onto other sites without authorisation first)

Legion (US$6 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee - yellow car (Auto - new) - image
Optimus Prime - red/blue truck (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw - blue monster car (Decep - new) - image
Strongarm - blue/white police pickup (Auto - new) - image
- - Wave 2
Grimlock - green dinosaur (Auto - new) - image
Sideswipe - red car (Auto - new) - image


Warrior (US$15 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee - yellow car (Auto - new) - image
Grimlock - green dinosaur (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw - blue monster car (Decep - new) - image
Strongarm - blue/white police pickup (Auto - new) - image
- - Wave 2
Autobot Drift - orange car (Auto - new) - image
Optimus Prime - red/blue truck (Auto - new) - image


One Step (US$10 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee - yellow car (Auto - new) - image
Sideswipe - red car (Auto - new) - image
Strongarm - blue/white police pickup (Auto - new) - image
Underbite - purple tank (Decep - new) - image
- - Wave 2
Grimlock - green dinosaur (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw - blue monster car (Decep - new) - image
Fixit - orange drill (Auto - new) - image


Mega One Step (US$?? - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Optimus Prime - truck (Auto - new) - image


Hyper Change Heroes (Three Step) (US$20 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee - yellow car (Auto - new) - image
Grimlock - green dinosaur (Auto - new) - image
- - Wave 2
Optimus Prime - red/blue truck (Auto - new) - image


Tiny Titans (2 inch) (US$?? - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bisk (Decep - new) - image
Bumblebee (Auto - new) - image
Cliffjumper (Auto - new) (GEN1?) - image
Grimlock (Auto - new) - image
Hammerstrike (Decep - new) - image
Optimus Prime (Auto - new) - image
Prowl (Auto - new) (GEN1?) - image
Sideswipe (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw (Decep - new) - image
Strongarm (Auto - new) - image
Thunderhoof (Decep - new) - image
Underbite (Decep - new) - image
- - Wave 2
G1 Autobot Jazz (Auto - new) - image
G1 Autobot Ratchet (Auto - new) - image
G1 Autobot Topspin (Auto - new) - image
G1 Bumblebee (Auto - new) - image - image
G1 Cyclonus (Decep - new) - image
RID Quillfire (Decep - new) - image
G1 Sharkticon (Decep - new) - image
G1 Soundwave (Decep - new) - image
G1 Starscream (Auto - new) - image
G1 Superion (Auto - new) - image
RID Terrashock (Decep - new) - image
G1 Ultra Magnus (Auto - new) - image


Titan Guardian (6 inch) (US$6 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee (Auto - new) - image
Optimus Prime (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw (Decep - new) - image


Titan Heroes (12 inch) (US$13 - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee (Auto - new) - image
Optimus Prime (Auto - new) - image
Steeljaw (Decep - new) - image
- - Wave 2
Sideswipe - (Auto - new) - image


Titan Heroes Electronic (12 inch) (US$?? - AU$??)
- - Wave 1
Bumblebee w/ spear (Auto - same mould as regular 12 inch) - image
Optimus Prime w/ sword (Auto - same mould as regular 12 inch) - image
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I worded the poll so that people can vote in the first few months of the toyline (only), as we'd know enough from it to get a decent impression/opinion of it... and if there is enough interest at the end of the year or toyline, we could have another poll to see how those impressions/opinions changed after more exposure to the toyline and to any surprises that show up later (any better or worse toys we don't yet know about).

This is the first toyline that I will be skipping in 30 years...

The size difference between the new reduced Legends (no longer 2-packs), and the new Legions from RID. The pricing between the two are US$10 for Generations and US$6 for the RID.... so expect a similar gap in pricing here.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c388.jpg

The size difference of the Generations toys to some recent other toys.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/coll...ofoz/1501a.jpg

This group shot includes the two HyperChange (3-step) Grimlock and Bumblebee on the right, with the Warrior class (same size as Deluxe Arcee) and the Legion class.
I grouped toys of the same characters to show any size and sculpting differences.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/coll...ofoz/1501c.jpg

The first wave of One-Steps and Tiny Titans are on their way to me, so I'll try to do up some more group shots of each character.

So far, I haven't been too disappointed by the toys so far, because I wasn't expecting them to be anything spectacular. The Deluxe cars were very panel-heavy, requiring a lot of lining up of tabs to panels, which can cause other panels and tabs to pop out if a single thing is just a little out of alignment.
The Legion Bumblebee was also one I had trouble with getting tabs to stay attached, as you can sort of see in the photo above with the legs (front of car) not staying together.
Warrior Grimlock was probably the most disappointing of the Warrior four, as it took a bit to figure out where the robot legs go in dino mode... and still looks very deformed when I did end up getting it right.

One positive surprise was the 3-step Grimlock, as it is a really unique transformation that doesn't feel like a "simple" 3-steps. And it scales better to the Warrior class if you want a larger Grimlock toy to play with or display as the main cast.

The Legion class was more complex than I was expecting... and felt like they were almost as complex as the Warrior class, which makes them more difficult to transform with big fat adult fingers. :p
It was actually interesting to see that the Legion toys had instruction sheets that were bigger than the instruction steps on the back of the Warrior card-backs.

Probably the most disappointing thing is the lack of character range in the first wave.
We have so many recurring characters in wave one that could have been swapped over with wave 2 toys that aren't characters in wave 1 (like Drift and Fixit) or are major characters that have just one convertible toy (Sideswipe, Underbite) compared to EIGHT Bumblebees, six Steeljaws, four Optimus, and four Strongarms... just in Wave One.

Oh... and weapon storage in alt-mode for the Warriors that have weapons - which is something I prefer if it doesn't ruin the toy to accommodate it.

A group shot in robot mode of the Legion, Warrior and 3-step classes, with other recent items for scale.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c404.jpg

I think the Warriors are fantastic -- simpler than recent Deluxes, so they're fun to transform but not too fiddly, but not as dumbed-down as the upscaled Legions we saw at the end of Beast Hunters, so they're not... like... awful.

And the Legions are a lot of fun too. I wish there was still a Commander size for Prime and Grimlock (at the very least) and I guess I'd prefer a size class slightly bigger than Warrior as well, but otherwise I have no complaints.

High hopes for the show. Really love TFPrime, so a continuation of that series is everything I could have wished for.

Wave one of the One-Steps...

Bumblebee (front and back of car join together from underneath to form the feet)
Strongarm (front and back twist and come together as a backpack)
Sideswipe (flips open like a flick knife, like some of the AOE One-Steps)
Underbite (click back legs together to flip over the head to the front)

Hasbro have been getting more creative with these, considering they are supposed to transform in one step... so that's commendable (they could all transform the same and still sell to the younger kiddies).
As a result of them finding more creative ways to transform these toys, they aren't as intuitive, and can lead to a lot of kibble (Strongarm) or parts getting in the way of the "one step" transformation (Bumblebee).

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c420.jpg
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http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c421.jpg


The first wave of RID toys, not including the various Titans.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c422.jpg

For details on the Tiny Titans, go to the news topic here... as these disgrace the Transformers Brand so much, I don't want their images contaminating multiple sections of this board.

Played with all four first wave Warriors today. Bumblebee's my favourite but each of them have their flaws - mostly in the form of kibble getting in the way of poseability. Sizewise they are fine, small deluxe size, not too far off TFPrime Deluxes actually. A few extra paint apps wouldn't be bad too. They are a good sample of apparently the most prominent show characters so I'm keeping me but don't think I'll get too many more. Drift looks interesting in robot mode and Sideswipe might be another get.

PS All but Grimlock were mistransformed in packaging. Bumblebee's shoulders slouched, Steeljaws arms not extended, Strongarm's back kibble around her legs.

I got the first wave of Warriors and One-Step Changers today. Thankfully for free courtesy of a friend in the U.S. :)

Grimlock is the only Warrior I've opened so far, and I've posted my thoughts in the relevant review thread. I've opened the One-Step Changers and my thoughts are:

• Underbite: Rubbish. Transforms from a ... umm... something with wheels to a... umm... something with a mouth and ... are those legs? The spring loaded transformation gimmick is prone to popping out if you don't squeeze in at the exact location.

• Bumblebee: Better than I expected and pretty cool for a One-Stepper; I like how the the toy can transform back and forth from a 'standing' position, giving it a certain air of realism

• Strongarm: Very interesting transformation, but disappointing robot mode.

• Sideswipe: Same "switchblade" concept that we saw w/ AoE High Octane Bumblebee and car-Drift, but the joints on mine are rather stiff so that it doesn't quite flick in and out all the way. Not sure if this is just isolated to my figure or an actual design flaw -- anyone else experiencing this?

Looking at the warriors and the cartoon, Strongarm looks pretty good. Bumblebee's decent, but missing that bulk he has in the show. If I get any toy from this show at all, it'll likely be Strongarm.

I'm going the Takara TAV and TED route with these guys.

Only a couple of weeks left to go until the flood of the Japanese toys... but for now, more of the Hasbro One-Steps.

Wave 2 has Grimlock, Steeljaw, and the remaining main cast member to not have a toy in the first wave of toys, Fixit.

Engineering for these can be quite impressive to do a complete transformation in one step, so the gimmick might be simple on paper, but the design and application of the
gimmick is nothing to be easily dismissed.
Unfortunately, the resulting modes can suffer to achieve that transformation... some with massive kibble.

Grimlock - great transformation, from decent dino to a robot mode that doesn't have any kibble sticking out. I was very impressed at how it just folds in on itself to transform.
Fixit - the toy and alt mode was never going to be anything spectacular, but it is good to finally get the last of the Autobot main cast. Robot mode has a fair bit of
kibble at the back though.
Steeljaw - transforms like you are shelling a crab, but unfortunately it means that "shell" is sticking way out the back to represent the tail that the other Steeljaw toys
have (their tails are small and thin, this one is big and flat).

http://toycollectors.com.au/collecti...ofoz/c36s5.jpg

(ignore the shelf label, as the gimmick toys will go on a separate shelf when this shelf gets too crowded for all RID toys to fit on it)

I too have ordered the TAV stuff, just wondering when they are going to do Sideswipe? :confused:

I'd really see more of the Decepticons being released as transformation action figures, and not just those Tiny Titans PVCs. :(

Got Underbite the other day. Pretty crap, even for a one-step changer. You can plainly see his face side on when in his Cybertronian tank mode :rolleyes:

Just be careful with transforming it, as it's gearing isn't too strong, so it can easily go out of alignment and be difficult to realign so that it will transform completely and stay in both modes.
It's the one drawback of these one-steps, if you try to transform it before you see what parts are supposed to be grabbed and moved, it can affect the gearing.
Aside from that, I love the engineering of the one-steps... because when the two modes are good or excellent, there is a lot going on inside the toy to make that happen.

A sea of yellow, with it all being released within the first two waves of each size class... AND the photo is still missing the 2 Kreons, the Kreo car, the 6-inch Titan and the Hero Masher. (the last two I don't yet have)

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c809.jpg

Just to offset it a little, here's Optimus after the same amount of time, and also missing the same items as Bumblebee.
Just like with Rescue Bots, a character with just a couple of cameo appearances almost has the most amount of toys of all the characters.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c810.jpg

Some of the other characters who have the most toys...
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c811.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c812.jpg

Everything I have so far for RID, except the Kreo (on another display case) and the Super sized Bumblebee (on the top of the display case).
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c788.jpg

The Kreo shelf...
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/c804.jpg

Got my hands on the power armored Sideswipe. Bought it primarily to repaint but also customise the joints are tighter than I was led to believe and I like that the sword can be stored in bot mode

Picked up warrior fracture today. Nice, really nice transformation almost puts animated prowl to shame. Recommended figure.

Now with added pictorial review! I said that Fracture was almost as good as animated Prowl, I just realised that Fracture's transformation is just Prime RID's Arcee :rolleyes:

Fracture turns into a chunky chopped motorcycle and his boomstick (really it looks like a stick) folds up and stores on his side, incidentally it can store in an attack position. Everything pegs together securely you can't shake the bulk of him apart - the front wheel will unpeg though :o

In robot mode Fracture's joints are nice and tight hips are on ball joints his head, shoulders, elbows, thighs and knees are swivels or hinges. The toy has a nice silhouette and is very posable.

http://i.imgur.com/opeMUEU.jpg

Another Legion Optimus redeco to add to the collection...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/d253.jpg
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http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/d254.jpg