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I enjoyed part one of the pilot. Will want to see a regular episode to get the real feel of the show since this ep had a lot of setting up the concept so a lot had to happen.
I liked the characters (and was surprised that Underbite has a character!) and the animation seemed fine.
I've not seen TFPrime but it doesn't seem to matter at all yet.
Will be coming back for more.
Update:
I liked part two and it seems to give a better idea of how the show will work: a stop the villain of the week format as expected.
So far so good.
Although having seen them in motion my warrior class Grimlock is too small and he and Bumblebee need more paint apps.
Just sat down and watched part 1 & 2 of the pilot.
Initial thoughts are it seems a more light hearted show than TF Prime. I did enjoy it and like the animation style.
Characters seem enjoyable as well and the villian of the week premise is old school.
Only downside for me is I think Bumblebee will get on my nerves trying to be Prime
I feel the same way about the show that Starscream77 does.
I really like the esthetic of the show a lot, just as much as TFA. I think I might get a full cast of characters from the show.
Looks good, like how they have gone back to original cartoon style. Characters seem to be good and i like the fact they have selected some different characters to focus on. Will have to watch and see where the story line is headed.:)
watched both parts of the pilot today.
it was actually quite good. I'm enjoying the more light-hearted approach to things compared to grim-dark prime. the characters feel good, and the action is still quite nice.
the animation seems a little awkward right now though(that scene where Sideswipe was jumping through the trees just didn't "feel" how it should have.) but hopefully it'll improve over time.
Unlike some people I don't mind Bumblebee as a character and don't see him as "Trying to be Optimus" clearly he didn't even want this team and he has no idea how to lead them. if anything he's more like Optimus Primal at this point.
Fixit seem quite amusing so far, I chuckled when he tried to protect himself behind Russel, when he shocked Grimlock back into his cell and when he annoyed Sideswipe with his friendship. his speech impediment might get a little adoring*BZZ*avoiding*BZZ*ANOYING! but right now it's not bad :p
Sidewipe's rebellious schtick may get old fast but he's clearly a decent bot deep down and I liked seeing him protecting Russel. Darren Criss plays the character well
Strongarm is a little annoying being SO by the books, but I can't seem to dislike her. maybe spending some time on earth with Swipe and Grim will loosen her up a bit
if you ignore the previous continuity this new Grimlock isn't bad either, honestly seems more like a Bulkhead than a Grimlock though
the humans .. I'll get back to you on them.
the plot for the episodes, well there isn't much to say about it since it was just a set-up episode, but it was still decent. I was so surprised when Underbite began to talk (literally shouted "HE CAN TALK!?" I guess since he's a Decepticon and not just some wild beast it shouldn't be too surprising. he was actually a decent character even if I'm not sure what exactly a "Chompazoid" is
the whole Optimus thing is a little weird though and [Spoiler] him saving the day at the end was a bit of a let down [spoiler]
all things considered I'm liking this and can't wait to see episode 3 tomorrow :D
I like the humour too, it's a similar feel to Beast Wars in my mind, but with a different comedic style. if this is what the future of Transformers TV shows is like then I'm happy. :)
Enjoyed episode 3, and if this is what the show's "Monster of the week" episodes will be like I'm all for it. I found this episode's jokes hit the mark very well and the two new Decepticons were both great.
I think they've found great voice talent for the 'Con roles. David Kaye nailed Hammerstrike and Troy Baker as Steeljaw was great. I'm really intrigued by Steeljaw and his professed motives versus his actual motives. The 'wolf' suits him.
As a toy commercial it's working, but makes me want better versions of Steeljaw, Bumblebee and Grimlock than the Warrior class has given me so far.
Probably also worth noting that although there's a pair of human characters, so far they've had less to do with driving and resolving the plot than Sari did (and less than my impression of the Prime kids).
I know right. I had the same reaction, and he was amusing. "I ate a city!" is my favourite quote from the show so far.
Just watched episode 3. So nice to have an entertaining cartoon that's not grim like TFP. There's so much on TV these days that's just grim and I don't want to see it anymore so good job Hasbro Studios on getting away from that style.
I think the show is good, but I agree with paulbot in that the toys could be to a higher standard. They could have a little more detailing and less open hollow shoulders and such, that said I will still pick some of them up : )
The toys are a whole other subject, it's just that the cartoon in just three episodes, through good design and humour, has made me like all the characters a lot so the toys have a lot to live up to.
I hope kids take to it, and I also hope the adult fans enjoy it too. I agree with DELTAprime, the few episodes of TFP I've seen were all grim and serious and that never inspired me to keep watching. While this show is fun and a little silly and makes me want to see more.
*SPOILERS (duh)*
Just watched first episode. It's a pretty good show. It doesn't feel as intense or cool as Prime was, but it certainly opens up the world a little bit. It reminded me of Beast Wars, with the whole stranded situation.
Watched "Trust Exercises" earlier today, still really enjoying this new show.
the plot was fairly simple "Learn to work together" but it felt quite well done.
all five of our main "Autobots" are enjoyable characters so far and their voice acting is top-notch
Russel and Denny still aren't annoying so that's a plus. although I feel Russel has the weakest voice performance out of everyone se far.
Getting to the Villains introduced today.
I feel Hammerstrike was probably a much less interesting character than Underbite was in the previous episodes. both in terms of personality and design. (plus, "FILTHY LAND DWELLER!" hardly compares to "I ATE A CITY!!!" in terms of memorable catchphrase) he did however have an awesome voice (Provided by the wonderful David Kaye)
However the prejudice Sharkticon was completely eclipsed by the other Con introduced today. Steeljaw... cool, charismatic, cunning, deadly. his voice performance was perfect and the character was very interesting (taller than expected too.... dang this line needs a voyager equivalent for all these taller/bigger characters) I'm really looking forward to seeing more of Steeljaw in future episodes.
Russel's plan to distract Steeljaw was pretty simple, but pretty nice, and watching "Grimbee" try and improvise his way into distracting the wolf man was hilariously awkward.
Also there seems to be a bit of a running gag going on of Cybertronians talking to animals (Underbite yelling at a bird in Pilot 2 and Grimlock yelling at a fish in this episode) just an observation.
it's gonna be a long wait till next weeks episodes.
EDIT: Just realised, it was never bought up what happened to the "brother" Steeljaw was trying to awaken from his stasis cell when Strongarm found him. and that's assuming that the other pod fixit mentioned was Steeljaws, otherwise that's 2 decepticons that are unacounted for in this episode. (most likely just the 1 though since I'm guessing the other was Steel's pod) so did Steeljaw go back for his fellow con? did the autobots retrieve it later? or is it still sitting there? yeah thinking too much I know.
Love the light joking tone and the chemistry between all the main vast is great. I agree with the beast wars comparison in terms of tone and banter. The art on the other hand reminds me heavily of Tron Uprising a show I loved but sadly ended in 1 season. The sharp eadges and 3d characters against almost cell animation styles backgrounds. Looking forward to more episodes.
Skipping past previous posts as I've only seen the first ep (thus avoiding spoilers for any other eps).
I quite like it! :D
Thoughts:
* Great to see that this story is a direct follow up from Transformers Prime. Interesting to see Cybertron in a Utopian post-war peacetime society (as opposed to the somewhat Dystopian post-war Cybertron in IDW :o), and now Cybertron is populated with a whole new generation of Transformers who would've been created when Optimus Prime sacrificed himself.
* I love seeing Bumblebee as a matured adult character and no longer the juvenile kid-appeal character that he was. Of course, we saw him evolving into this during late Beast Hunters, so it is a logical progression from that. I really like seeing characters grow into maturity -- much like Cheetor did in BW/BM, unlike say Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime in G1 who magically matured when he possessed the Matrix (yet magically becomes immature when he's no longer in possession of it *sigh*).
* I find it amusing to see that Bumblebee has become an object of idol worship, understandably as a war hero. The line from the guards about him doing a "bad impersonation of Bumblebee" was pretty funny. :D
* Bumblebee kinda sucks at being a police officer though. Brazenly ignoring Sideswipe's hoon driving ("It's okay cos I know that guy" <---real professional judgement! :rolleyes:), having Strongarm and Sideswipe end up with him on Earth. Surely Bumblebee knew about the protocol that would bind Strongarm to be by his side (and thus invalidate his instruction to her to return to command). Why didn't Bumblebee call for another ranking Autobot officer to relieve him and escort Strongarm and Sideswipe back to the station? Don't tell me that they're the only TWO cops in the whole city-state! :confused:
* I like the Strongarm character. So determined to be a good cop and do everything by the book, yet conflicted and ultimately overridden by her awe for Bumblebee when he decides to break protocol. :D I actually prefer her to TFP Ultra Magnus because she actually seems more consistent than he was. I'm... not a fan of her voice though. Reminds me of Dot Matrix from Spaceballs. :p
* Sideswipe is annoying, but at least he's useful (i.e. pro hack skillz, rescued Russell from Underbite). I'll take an annoying Autobot over an annoying human any time.
* Interesting to see that they're putting a little bit of personality into Underbite with his sad desperate cry for celebrity. :D I hope that future Decepticons will have their own individual quirks. Shame that his vehicle mode looks so stupid though.
* Fixit is annoying too... I'm currently chalking down his stupidity to cerebral circuit damage from the crash.
* Russell is an interesting character. I do like how they've made him more 'real' by giving him personal real-world problems: divorced parents, strained relationship with his man-child father. They did the same thing w/ the humans in Transformers Prime as well; Jack desperate for independence from over-protective single mother / Raf being the isolated over-achiever in a large family / Miko's urge to break the rules because she's an idiot... (okay, 2 out of 3 ain't too bad :p).
* On the other hand, I find Russell's father to be devoid of any redeeming qualities so far. The only reason I feel any concern for him with Underbite bearing down is because of how it would affect Russell. The character himself offers me no reason why I, as an audience member, should emotionally invest in him as a character (and therefore give a flying truck what happens to him). He reminds me of Lucas Flannery in Age of Extinction, only that I was cheering when Lockdown killed him. Gawd... that film would've been even more unbearable if we had to put up with him for the rest of the movie! :eek: If Russell's dad survives then... umm... he can guard the crash site for the rest of the series. :p
* Those museum guards were pretty trigger happy. You'd think they'd try to use melee combat techniques to subdue Bumblebee in hopes of not damaging the museum property that th--, what?! Did one of them just blow up a bust of Optimus Prime?!? :eek: These guards should get sacked the astrosecond that they wake up from being stunned/crushed!
* Sideswipe and Strongarm transform into Cybertronian hover-cars, but Bumblebee transforms into a wheeled Earthen car. I guess Bumblebee insisted on keeping an Earthen vehicle mode for nostalgia's sake. He is the only member who's been to Earth before while the other two haven't, so it is plausible. :o
Watched the first 3 ep's today. My thoughts:
*Referencing cool different facets of previous TF lore. For instance:
- Dinobots and Sharkticons (G1, Unicron Wars)
- Mini-Cons (Unicron Wars)
- Bumblebee a yellow sports car (Prime), Sideswipe a red sports car (G1), Grimlock a T-Rex (G1, Animated, AoE)
- A dad and his son are the first to meet the Autobots and with very little questioning join their crusade (G1)
- Steeljaw a blue wolf thing (AoE)
New facets I quite like:
- Strongarm. I think she is going to be quite an interesting character. A rookie uptight cop with a dash of hero worship for Bee thrown in. It makes a nice change as they seem to have made every female character either cynical or a smart arse in the last few TF cartoons.
- Different breeds of Con with different strengths and weaknesses
Things I'm not sure whether I will like or not yet:
- Decepticons with vehicle alt-forms but their robot form is a weird humanoid-animal hybrid. Has possibilities but may become annoying and reeks slightly of trying to shoehorn in a bit of Predacon action without going down the Maximal/Predacon route
- The humans. I usually hate them but I think I may like the dad if they develop the character more
- The animation
- The humor which is not really adult and not really little kid but rather a drab inbetween
- The storyline in general
- Grimlock - not really liking a few of the personality traits I'm seeing from our beloved belligerent Dinobot commander here but the character may grow
- Steeljaw has Defledurmous voice from The Tick. Every time I hear him talk it tears me between joyful nostalgia and wanting to switch the episode off so I can go watch old Tick episodes. I felt the same thing listening to Sentinel Prime from Animated :p
Overall I'm willing to give this cartoon a try. I didn't like Prime at all when it first started, and it eventually became my 3rd fav series after G1 & Animated so I'll give this a chance. They better provide some damn good toys to go with the cartoon though.
I wish they had of come up with a new name for the big green dinosaur guy so people didn't keep comparing him to, or wanting him to be, G1 or FOC Grimlock. I'm enjoying this new not so evil, punch happy, Decepticon-branded character.
Sorry to tell you Trev that the toys are just ok, definitely not damn good.
Just had a thought about the Decepticons with animalistic robot modes (which is the trend for this show). Perhaps it's a form of Cybertronian racism (like in MTMTE's 'bad' reality). All the 'animal' type bots have been branded Decepticons, locked up in prison and shipped off planet. Some actually are bad, some aren't and some we're not too sure about yet...
Episode 4 thoughts:
Most human-centric, kid-orientated episode so far. The obvious message was a bit too heavy handed and transparent early on. I liked the new female character, reminded me of Carly from G1.
With the robots, I liked that Bisk was a already in progress villain. Proves the show won't be just about the villain of the week, and there's room for a silly idea like Bisk not to overstay it's welcome. I really liked Chop Shop's design but I think if he'd been an Animated villain we would have a got a good deluxe out of it; don't see it happening in the RID toyline.
Overall the weakest episode IMO but still an ok watch.
Just finished episode 4
my (random unsorted) thoughts.
OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS AHEAD
*kinda nice to see more humans to help flesh out the world, and "Hank" feels like a fairly fresh idea so I wouldn't mind seeing her appear from time to time.
*Glad to see that (as I had expected) Bisk wasn't a major villain and was just a quick fight at the start of an episode. I am kinda hoping he'll appear again though since I grew to like his crazy gamer personality from watching and re-watching the preview clip.
*Getting onto our main villain of the day Chop Shop, very cool design, interesting choice for his voice/personality. and we have a decepticon now who just wants off the planet. so it's cool to see the alchemor (sp?) escapees all have their own motives and it's not just decepticons running amok.
*Since one spider got away at the end of the episode it's likely we'll see Chop Shop again in some capacity, which I am all for.
*it was crazy to see Chop Shop just shove Fixit into his arm socket and use him as an arm like that.
*Based on a lot of the dialogue in this episode "Minicons cannot leave their post" "You work for me now minicon" etc it makes it feel like minicon's receive a fair bit of Class based racism in this universe. or I guess it's not that different than it was back in Armada but now that minicons like Fixit have voices and more personality it just feels more obvious that there's some behind the scenes pecking order.
*That said Fixit got to be the hero today and it was glorious (if expected) the little guy is quickly becoming my favourite character in the show. :D
*the scenes between Grimlock and "Rusty" were rather sweet and really shows that Grimlock is definitely not a bad guy. very pro-teamwork. which is the obvious message of the entire episode "in a team everyone has something to contribute"
*Speaking of Grimlock, it's interesting to see them address the fact that he sticks out like a big green and black sore thumb as a giant t-rex. as opposed to episode 2 where it was ok for him to roll out towards the city with Bee and Strongarm.
*This was a very human heavy episode compared to the last few, and while I'd rather have seen more of Chop Shop it still felt like a good episodes
*I have my doubts we'll be seeing a toy of Chop Shop since it'd be hard for them to make a toy that can separate into 5 identical spiders. he may get a one-step or something that transforms from just the one spider into his robot mode or something, just my thought. in a perfect world Hasbro would announce a new special "class" for RiD combiners (similar to how deployers have their own class) which would give us Chop Shop at maybe a voyager class size that separates into his 5 spiders (although they'd probably all look a little different from each other to make the toy more interesting and to make it easier on them than having an arm, torso and leg all turn into identical spiders) I doubt it will happen but that would be the best Chop Shop we could get. unless they announce voyagers at botcon. but there are other characters I'd like to see as voyagers than Chop Shop.
*Speaking of the toys I expect that Bisk will be a legion or one step at best. if he gets a toy at all. if this was his only appearance in the series then that's what I feel, legion, one step or no toy at all. should he make more appearances and develop into a more major character then I could see him getting a warrior. but not for what little he did this week.
Just watched todays episode. I'm still liking the show. The kids while overused didn't annoy me at all unlike many previous TF series and movies. Still like the Bots and Cons sections.
Just watched episodes 4 & 5.
Really liked Ep4. Chop Shop is the only deluxe Insecticon I own so to see a character turn up here who is an obvious homage (a thief, browny/reddy colour scheme, turns into a bug/s) was very cool! I really liked the concept of him being a one-bot combiner - really hope we get a toy of him! Interesting to see what was done with Fixit - yeah - Minicons are just for being attached and used - go Armada!
Ep5: Nah, didn't do much for me. The buffalo dude was a boring bad guy and the "Bumblebbe is struggling to become a respected leader of his team" was totally done to death already with Prime in Animated and I don't particularly wanna see that whole story arc played out again.
Personally the whole storyline of the cartoon is a little too drab for me so far with only the brief bright spark. Hope it improves
I think episode 5 has been the weakest so far.
I do think there's a difference between Animated Prime growing into leadership but clearly in command, and Bumblebee who's flatly ignored by his team. BB's attempts to mimic Prime were amusing. The talking to reflections bit though is pretty silly.
I thought they might actually go with the big reveal, since the explanations aren't very solid. You'd think a robot buffalo running down the street would make the news (like those Llamas the other day) and presumably people on earth remember the Transformers right? (Unless they were pretty much hidden and keeping to themselves in TF:Prime too?)
I agree with you guys, Episode 5 has seemed the weakest so far, both in it's plot and it's villain. Terrashock had some potential what with his claustrophobia and stuff but they ended up just making him a big dumb brute. pretty much just a giant mechanical talking Buffalo, just charging around breaking things. Also I didn't really like him being labelled a "Buffaloid" since unlike Underbite and to a lesser extent Hammerstrike, having Terrashock be a unique species just felt pointless. I'd personally prefer it if humanoid decepticons like Steeljaw and maybe Bisk, Terrashock and Thunderhoof would all just be Decepticons with an animal influence to their designs and leave the unique species stuff to the cons who are further from being humanoid like Underbite. just to mix it up a bit since otherwise it'll just get ridiculous. speaking of ridiculous, my god Terrashock was stupid! running into walls painted to look like the outdoors while he was inside, yelling at an animatronic buffalo (continuing the trend started by underbite and grimlock of yelling at animals) thinking the projector in the planetarium display was a communication device, etc. I get that he was confused and in a foreign world but still this guy was just hopelessly unintelligent.
his design wasn't that great either, but I liked it more than Hammerstrike's design.
The cover-ups that Russel and Denny used to keep the transformers a secret were really stupid but this is a kids show so I'm willing to look past it.
all in all not that impressed with this episode but still watchable, still enjoying the show as a whole so far though.
I did like the highway chase until Terrashock transformed back into his robot mode and I like that bumblebee decided to find his own fun way of being a leader to his team instead of trying to be the stern stoic leader type like Optimus.
Loved ep4, loved Chopshop's bad Australian accent. I do hope there is a toy released of him
I missed last weekend's two episodes as I was out of town. Without too many spoilers, do you think it matters I haven't seen them before I see this weekend's episodes?
Wish I could watch these. All I ever seem to find is Japanese language ones:(
Rumble in the jungle pretty meh, but I want to see a springload figure!
There are a bunch of episodes posted to Daily Motion by a guy called Steeljaw.
I only have links to episodes 6 & 7 (not sure if it's against the rules to post those links on the board).
Unfortunately I can't tell if he's posted any more. They are set to private so if you don't already have the link you can't see them on his profile. :-/
This morning's episode reminded me how disappointing the RID toys are and how great it would be if the amount of love and creativity that went in to the Animated line was repeated. Jazz was very cool and he needs a great toy. Ped also had an interesting design. The show's designers are doing a great job.
Loved how Jazz has appeared in this one! All the Jazz fans should be happy. And Ped looks like a good character, hope these guys make it into the toy line especially Jazz.:)
I don't think its as good as Prime but still quite a good show. My main complaint would be that Hasbro try to hard to make audiences know this is a sequel to Prime. Numerous Megatron and Starscream (even Dark Energon!! O.o) have been thrown in as well as numerous Team Prime references like 'my team never did that' or 'that was the worst Starscream impression ever!' and 'I've saved the world from Megatron, Starscream and Dark Energon, I'm not about to become the laughing stock of some game .something. something' and 'hey this looks like Megatrons face!'
6/10
Finally got around to watching this on the weekend with my kids. It was entertaining enough but the storyline was fairly weak. Also, I'm really not a fan of Bumblebee in this show.
I was expecting more but my kids liked it so I'll keep watching too... for now.
Well I just watched the last episode of season 1. I enjoyed the show for the most part. But I feel im getting a little bit tired of the Bad guy of the week thing. They find a bad guy and hunt him down. Bad guy runs. They fight. The end. Was hoping for something to happen in the last episode. But more of the same.
Two things bug me. 1. These are not real Decepticons. They are all just crooks etc. Looks like any bot with a touch of beast were rounded up. Sent off world and the Autobots are the ones putting Con signs on them. Every other show has had real Decepticons. .this does not.
2. Why has Bee not visited Raph!!
My super-quick impressions of Ep’s 6 to 11
(please note I can’t remember bad guys names as watched them all in a sleep deprived state with a bub on my shoulder in a row last night :o)
Ep 6 – Horn-headed guy was a half-interesting Con, though the voice-actor never quite nailed the accent quite right. Sometimes he sounded like a gangster, other times like a regular joe. The space-bridge back to Cybertron seemed a half-decent plan - probably the only bad guy out of these half-dozen episodes that didn't make me cringe.
Ep 7 – Nup – crap! We finally get another female Con who is not a version of Black Arachnia/Arachnid and it’s a giant crow who just says “Shiny” a lot. Was it a prison ship or an interstellar ambulance on it’s way to Torqulon?
Ep 8 – Sorta interesting to see Sideswipe being the one standing up for Grimlock. Didn’t get to see enough of the bag-bug-bot to really get any impression of him. Since Chop Shop has shown up, it would have been nice for that character to be Bombshell
Ep 9 – Wow – what a shite Con! A frog-jeep thing- really? I get that the general theme here is vehicle alt-form and robot/animal hybrid bot form, but this was just crap. And his quasi-religious quest came off as more stupid than interesting.
Ep 10 – Jazz! Boo-yah! He was really good in this episode and they kept the character fairly consistent with the Jazz persona. The Con in this episode had the potential to be really good – a tanker truck that turns into a drilling monster – but they stuffed it up. That voice was just stupid, Im trying to remember what other cartoon characters I’ve heard it used for. They should have made him mean and menacing, instead he came off as the dorky cousin of Octane.
Ep 11 – Sigh, yet again what could have been an interesting bad guy, who they made just that bit too stupid. First he’s shooting spikes and taking down bots, then he’s talking to an elephants arse. Just sad. Didn’t think much of the ‘Protoform aged BBee’ thing either.
Overall I feel like this series has gone downhill from Ep 5 onwards, pretty much since that Buffalo bad guy. All the Cons are just too stupid. While I like the fact that they are being pursued as criminals guilty of various crimes instead of an opposing army, they’ve given them all an average IQ of 60 and it just sucks the fun out of it.
As for the bots Fixit is annoying, Grimlock just doesn’t click, Strongarm and Sideswipe have some potential and Bee has been done to death. The human kid is not interesting, though the Dad character might be ok if they tweak it some. They need to reboot for Season 2 with Jazz in charge and fighting worthy opponents.
Both the toys and the cartoon of this series so far is paling in comparison to Prime and Animated - overall disappointing.
That occurred to me too - so much for lasting friendship eh :rolleyes:
I think people are forgetting that this is meant for children. The goofy bad guys and slapstick humor is perfect for that target audience. They throw in the odd wink to old school transformers for the adults who'd be watching it but us old school fans are not who they're aiming to entertain. In that context they have actually balanced the show quite well in my opinion.
Nope - you can entertain kids without insulting their intelligence. And poor humour is just poor humour, no matter what age bracket it's aimed at. TF Animated pulled off the balance fantastically for the most part - this does not.
However I have been wrong before ;)
i'm going to have to rematch it again, but didn't Jazz/Jazz + Beiber botch his first attempt at capturing the Decepticon Ped? :p so much for Mr. Cool
But yeah, look, this weeks monster. Let's catch it. Yay, we're all home in time for cornflakes.