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RENs real name super bugs me..... Damn EU scrapping! And if you don't know EU names be thankful!
And the last few actions really annoyed me.... Moving weapons around at a time like that... Come on! At least when on dvd I can press stop as soon as the hood is lowered! My step kid likened it to shots from bod and the beautiful!
And damn you Lego! Fix my shuttle!
i just got back. wow!! i thought that was really good and despite a couple of small annoyances i thoroughly enjoyed it, that is when i wasn't welling up lol
Well I thoroughly enjoyed it, even though it was essentially a remake of A New Hope, with a touch of empire and ROTJ thrown in.
New cast was impressive, dig the chemistry between the new characters. Harrison Ford killed it, after so many years I was pretty hesitant about whether he could "be" Han again, but he was awesome in it, completely nailed it. Not sure though how much my kids will dig it, it seemed a little suited to the adult audience (which is great for traditional fans). I think there is little to hate about this one, other than originality in the storyline, I think Abrams and Disney played it safe in that respect and most fans will enjoy it. There are a lot of unanswered questions though which hopefully we will start to learn more about in episode VIII, and just like with Empire, I think episode VIII will be pivotal for whether this trilogy has the legs to stand out on its own. TFA does the job of rebooting the franchise and paying fan service, again I thoroughly enjoyed it, hopefully VIII takes us to new places and knocks it out of the park, cause I already can't wait :)
What i love about it is the chemistry between them all. Mucking around. Arguments. Acting like real people. Some thing eps 1.2.3 totally lack. Im not going to give Anything away. But it was almost a religious experience for me. I loved this movie and cant wait to see it again with the kids on Friday :)
LOL I was thinking what does the European Union have to do with Star Wars for a second before realising what you meant (sorry never went into expanded universe)Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
I was actually surprised that they actually continued to the "Island" scene (interesting how A certain someone already had that vision in their head, thumbs up on that one), I thought it would finish up with them departing for that journey, I agree though those scenes seemed unnecessarily prolonged, would have been fine to just cut off with the hood lowering, but then again walking up those stairs seemed unnecessary when you have a space ship lol
Han + Leia = Jania & Jacen (Twins, and Jacen eventually turns Darth), and AnakinQuote:
Originally Posted by Meister
Luke + Mara Jade (Secret emperors assassin who turns good ) = Ben
Hence my dislike
They should of called it 'Star Wars Millenium Falcon' cos that was all that was in it. I came out with mixed feelings. Wouldn't say I loved it. But didn't hate it either. Watching it again Saturday so will analyze it further. There was only 4 people in the cinema watching it.:confused:
Well I am going to say I LOVED IT! Perhaps my expectations were lower given what happened with the Phantom Menace and the huge expectations I had then.
I thought the script was almost entirely original with a generous amount of nods to Ep IV and a few from V and VI. I didn't think that was over the top by any means and it catered to us older fans.
I am highly recommending this to my friends, with a proviso that they need to see it before they find out [SPOILER] - Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's kid, the force user is Rey and not Finn and Han's own kid kills him!
I had an idea in my head of who the characters were and how I expected things to play out.... i was totally off and that made the experience even more enjoyable. If you haven't seen it yet and you are reading this page, stop immediately and go and watch it!
I'm still digesting the film, but I think It's safe to say I enjoyed it, it may not be the best thing ever but it's back to form for Star Wars over the horror of the prequels, I thought the 3 new leads were pretty decent and not just carbon copies of previous characters. I like the way Kylo Ren is a wannabee Sith lord in the shadow of Darth Vader rather than being a new villain who is inexplicably as talented as the previous villain. Han Solo was great he finally fulfilled his destiny without Lucas around to stop him, or worry about toy sales. The effect were awesome and not too much CG nonsense, except maybe for Snoke, who I found more goofy than spooky.
So my only real gripe about the film is that toward the end it tends to lean a bit to heavily on the previous films, rather like Abrams Star Trek into Darkness, I felt the final battle followed A new Hope trope for trope, as a result while the conflict between Rey, Kylo, Han etc was intense, I was not emotionally involved in the X-wing attack at all, but still it's only a small thing.
I will say though one thing we know despite somehow having more advanced tech than the Empire, First Order is just as dumb. As once again they built a gigantic doomsday weapon that can be taken out by an even smaller amount of poorly supplied enemies using the same plan they used the last two times someone did this. :p
Disappointed about the lack of Captain Phasma in the movie. Although that scene where Chewbacca tackled her to the ground and made her disable the shield gave me a good laugh.
i loved it but come on :p young person leaves desert planet trying to get droid containing important information to freedom fighters so they can find a way to destroy super weapon in last ditch effort as time counts down to their destruction. along the way they discover the force and their mentor, whom they only just met, is killed. which movie am i describing? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
Yeah, my thoughts exactly, even down to the Resistance base looking almost identical to the Yavin base, It was starting to be a little too much by the final act.Quote:
Originally Posted by philby
Originality is not JJ's forte, but when it comes to intense emotional flip outs, lens flares and lasers he's got us covered.
Film was good, hope they don't kill off luke in any of the following sequels
Ahhhh I see now, I guess maybe cause they only went with the one offspring in this version (so far that is) they must have felt that particular name would hold the most meaning out of them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
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Originally Posted by philby
Add to that an opening scene where the good guys are caught by the bad guys, with the bad dude making his ominous appearance whilst the good guy hides the secret plans in a droid and sends him off to travel through a desert before being captured for interrogation, a canteena scene, a prison break/rescue mission, people after a certain smuggler for not delivering the goods, the young persons witnessing the mentor die at the hands of the bad guy, X wings having to travel through a trench to take out an Oscillator (aka exhaust chute) to destroy the "super mega force death star", with the addition of the new young force user traveling across the galaxy to find the last master Jedi to be trained how to become a jedi...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
Like I said its pretty much a remake of A New Hope with bits of Empire and Jedi thrown in, but to be honest I also kind of got that feeling from the trailers leading up to it so my expectations weren't really shattered in anyway (although I wasn't expecting that many similar attributes to the original).
Regardless it still had its own unique parts and themes, and I definitely found the cinema experience thoroughly entertaining (was quite cool in 3D if I do say so myself), the characters were relatable and the story was told very well in my opinion (I'm intrigued and I want to know more about a lot of things, particularly Rey and Kylo), effects and cinematography were great although the score wasn't as memorable in my mind (other then when the old themes came out to shine), all up I came a way with a huge smile on my face and I can't wait to watch it again with my kids, not to mention I'm also left hanging to see what happens next, that indicates it was a positive experience for me so yeah, as far as I'm concerned well done Abrams on a successful reboot, now lets see how you go from here cause the next one will be make or break in my eyes and I don't think you will be able to hide in the comfort of repetition again, the next one definitely has to stand out on its own (story wise that is)
I loved it. Tired so can't say more for now. BB-8 and Rey were surprisingly awesome.
Yeah I dug it. Being an older fan I get the whole poetry thing happening with this and it didn't bother me one bit. Great flick
Lots of laughs along the way....really having a good time......then something bad bad bad bad happens. Nausea followed by increased tearfulness followed by shakiness and then denial
Holy crap. I felt bad all day today 😢
I'm processing all of it
Enjoyed it thoroughly and saw ALL the ANH story copies and then some of the ROTJ story copies BUT
Solo dead at the hands of his son is excellent and Kylo Ren not being a fully fledged Dark Side user with uber strength in the force and weaknesses that Rey and Finn exploited I liked a lot.
Definitely more interesting than the prequels.
Definitely enjoyed it. Woke up the next morning struggling to believe Hans fate. I had a bad feeling about that. Basically everything I thought about the movie has already been said.
I've been having with people, threatening spoilers then telling them that Kylo Ren is Jar Jar Bink's son :D
Man!!!! what an adventure... I enjoyed every minute of it.
Anyone else think Rey is Skywalkers daughter?
I am...Quote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
My favourite parts were Kylo Ren's tantrums. Fantastic show of anger and frustration.
Interesting he never took it out on anyone else in the First Order, just computer consoles and chairs. Like you know Vadar would have straight up force choked the closest person without hesitating.
If she isn't then she is at least a Han and Leia's kid. She had a connection to Skywalkers old lightsaber, so there is a blood connection there somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
My money is on Luke's kid though, because I think she was left on Jakku before Luke went missing.
I agree. It also doesn't make sense for Leia and Han to name their kid Ben. If they did it wasn't in honour of Kenobi. They didn't have much to do with him, well Leia didn't anyway. Han a bit, but not enough to name your kid after the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
I think this too, which would make her and Kylo Ren cousins.Quote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
I was also expecting Luke to use the force to take the lightsaber at the very end of the film.
I think that would be the easiest and most safest way to go about it, that Rey is the offspring of either Luke or Leia, however, after pondering this aspect over the last day or so and trying to take into account all the pieces that have been given so far, I've found myself developing and favouring an alternate theoryQuote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
I'd be surprised if Rey isn't Luke's daughter, given this is a Star Wars film that draws heavily on the first 3 films family ties are par for the course. That would however open up a more interesting mystery of who her mother is though? Given the lack of women in the first films they'll have to create a new non young character. All I can say is it better not be those Midichlorans again!
Also does anyone know who the old ally that Poe Dameron went to see at the beginning of the film was? Were we supposed to know him? Is he like a Rebellion General or something?
I had a though that if he isn't someone we know then maybe he's a character who's younger version will be introduced in one of the yet unreleased spin off films.
There is no doubt that there are similarities, specifically done on purpose I would guess. However, I do not think that these similarities, done for nostalgia and as a nod to the original trilogy, take away from the originality of the story line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister
Of course, if you want to look at the story in a vacuum and speak in generalities, then yes of course you can make it seem very similar to A New Hope. However, when you start to look at the differences you will see the originality behind it and in particular the different dynamic of the characters. That is the key difference; the characters are very very different in nature other than a comparison between Luke and Rey both being raised in a dessert environment and not knowing their past/force abilities.
However the similarities stop there. Rey is clearly a survivor. She has been on her own for a long time and does what she needs to in order to survive. She had no desire to leave Jakku (even if she always knew there was nothing really holding her there). Her command of the force seems to far exceed what Luke's was from the time they first became aware of their abilities - she is already using mind control. Contrast this with Luke who was always wanting to get off Tatooine and had a loving supporting family that was around. Luke was driven by a need to help others (following Leia's message) where as Rey, whilst having such virtuous qualities, was more of a reluctant hero.
Vadar and Kylo Ren have some similarities but their characters are mostly different. Vadar knew who he was and only questioned his position when faced with the death of his son. Ren on the other hand is deeply conflicted and ultimately took the path Vadar could not, he killed his father! Ren is deeply troubled by the light he feels inside and is clearly insecure and not in command of his powers to the extent Vadar was. Ren's background and upbringing are similar to Vadar (both were Jedi and seduced but isn't this generally how most Sith are arising at the time?).
There was no character like Finn in the original trilogy. Rey is like a mash up of Luke and Han. Even BB's personality was clearly different from that of R2. R2 always seems to know what he needs to do. BB seemed unsure of himself but always wanting to do the right thing.
The overall story line in a nutshell sounds like A New Hope, but once you flesh it out the similarities are nothing more than nods to the original. I'm not going to dissect the story line but I would still say the script is original.
Still trying to figure out how Poe was missing from the Tie Fighter crash then suddenly he appears in a X-Wing an hour later?
What happened to Captain Phasma, Hux, and Kylo? Did they survive?
Cool, so I'm not alone in entertaining that is within the realms of a viable possibility, she certainly does have all the attributes of Anakin (fixer, natural pilot and fighter, with an uncanny ability to effortlessly harness the power of the force). We may be in for another "virgence" in the force here, or rather Anakin Skywalker reincarnate (which also could explain the link to Anakins light sabre) I can't help but shake off a certain dialogue in one of the TV spots "I have lived long enough to see the same eyes in different faces, I see your eyes, I know your eyes!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
Interesting though how some dialogue and scenes in the trailers were absent from the movie
I'm pretty sure Hux and Ren survived because Snoke told Hux to fetch him to complete his training before Starkiller base exploded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega Metro
As for Phasma she was my favourite of the 3 and it's a shame she got so little screen time so I hope she survived because it'd be such a waste of a good character, but no one can really tell.
I'm not in any disagreement with you on the take on the new characters, all three are fresh and new in my opinion which was one of the main highlights for me, I enjoyed the actors portrayals and the chemistry between them, they were unique (in respect of Star Wars) and I found myself intrigued and connected, I want to know more about them, my comparison relates specifically to the structure of events and settings within the general storyline, I think it is a hard argument to say it is completely original when we can link so many comparative attributes with A New Hope. But again I'm not really bothered about it cause it was very enjoyable, I'm a fan of it, there is little criticism from me (to be honest my only personal criticism is having the starkiller aka super mega force Death Star shoot lasers to blow up planets, I think leaving it at sucking the energy out of suns would have been enough, killing the sun dooms the system and planets in it, which that alone would make it a much greater threat then the original Death Star, and they could of just stated they utilise the energy harvested to power the enormous starkiller, you know sort of like Unicron in a way, I think that would have been enough and kept it a little bit more original in a way).Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
Ultimately what I was stating wasn't meant to be a criticism, just something that I thought was pretty obvious (which again I don't personally have any issues with it because I thought it was a. Awesome adventure in the end, I'm a fan :))
Saw it, loved it, going tonight to see again
While yes as a general idea a lot was borrowed from the original trilogy but hey who cares as that was the Holy Trilogy and if it aint broke...
Thought the character development was great and also casting. and unlike the prequels the CGI did not take away from any scene
Thank you JJ, bloody good job ! :cool:
To add to the missnamed kid dilemma... Han and Leias EU Youngest, Anakin, was a mechanical genius just like his grandfather....
So maybe it's still Uncle Luke.... Maybe Han never knew he had a daughter... no telling how long he's been AWOL
I think this is the most likely and safest option, this way we don't have to worry about a partner for Luke, it provides an explanation why she would be hidden seeing what eventuated with Kylo and we also keep the saga within the family circle, this time pitting brother against sister. The safest way to go forward In order to keep the story focused on the central characters the way the OT did without too much deviations into other areasQuote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
Did anyone else see it at IMAX? The one at Darling Harbour was horrendous! It was grainy, low-res and overly dark, almost like a TN display viewed from an angle.
As for the movie.... yeah, it was pretty craptacular! Nowhere near as bad as the prequels at least...
I've no problems with them killing off Solo, but with Harrison Ford gone, they need someone with high charisma, because none of the new blood exhibited any! The guy playing Finn has potential though.
And what was up with Leia's mouth? The botox is strong with this one...
I loved it that much, I'm going to go again, but in gold class this time. Wow, so blown away but so much to take in.
So did you like it or not? I'm kinda getting mixed messages...Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
How is it that the Death Star thingy can destroy 5 planets without charge, but when they have to destroy the last planet they need to suck the sun so it can charge?
It was already charged prior and needed to recharge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handsprime
But the information the droid has doesn't tell them how to destroy the Starkiller base.......Quote:
Originally Posted by philby