Beast Wars original toy reissues

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12th March 2021, 09:49 AM
Paulbot

Beast Wars original toy reissues

Coming later this year, a re-release of the original ultra class Optimus Primal and Megatron, deluxe class Cheetor and basic class Rattrap figures from the first year Beast Wars toyline

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Hasbro has officially revealed the first wave of a Vintage Beast Wars line of toys.

These are the original toys with updated paint in classic style packaging. Primal and Megatron look to be using their Anniversary original molds. Cheetor has a sharp blue and yellow deco. Rattraps bubble card even seems to be using the rock bubble variant from years ago!

The deluxes will be USD $19.99 and the Leaders will be USD $39.99.

They will be available at the Walmart collector con on 3/15 which will feature new items from Hasbro and other brands. However, we have no official confirmation yet that they are Walmart exclusives. Assume that is the case with Wally�s previous vintage lines.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/11/...or-2021-429867

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The figures are part of Walmart Collector Con, a virtual toy convention featuring a whole slew of Hasbro and other brands. Star Wars: The Vintage Collection, The Real Ghostbusters and Transformers: War for Cybertron collectibles, as well as Walmart-exclusive Funkos, are all part of the event.

You can preorder the Transformers: Vintage Beast Wars figures beginning March 15 at 1 PM ET/10 AM PT.

Cheetor and Rattrap are USD $19.99, while Optimus Primal and Megatron will put you back USD $39.99 a piece.

All 4 figures will release August 1, 2021.

Original source: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-tra...n-release-date
12th March 2021, 10:31 AM
1AZRAEL1

Kind of interesting that they're putting these out so close to the releases of the new ones. I guess these are more fan targeted than general population
12th March 2021, 11:50 AM
Sinnertwin

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Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1

Kind of interesting that they're putting these out so close to the releases of the new ones. I guess these are more fan targeted than general population

Yeah the beastie kids should be old enough now to be all yay! nostalgia. Then you read that it's a Walmart exclusive & settle back with a nice glass of Chardonnay, click on the TFW link & have a quiet chuckle.
12th March 2021, 03:15 PM
SharkyMcShark

I love the idea behind this.

I'm passing on this bunch simply because I own them all and still have them sitting in boxes (sans accessories). Cheetor and Rattrap I had bought for me when I was about 6, and Primal and Megatron I ended up picking up at a fan meet about 20 years later for $5 each. I don't really have the connection with any of them to warrant buying them fresh.

If we start talking about Transmetals thought... sign me up. By the time they came around I was old enough to pine after them and save my pocket money to go and grab one deluxe per month.
12th March 2021, 09:44 PM
Zommael

IMO this is completely pointless. They were rumored to be Transmetals which would have made a lot more sense, but just putting out the original toys at the same time as the vastly improved Kingdom versions is just dumb.
13th March 2021, 12:38 AM
DELTAprime

I really want a comment from Hasbro on the Rattrap mould.

Hasbro said at a Botcon back in the day the mould was lost. So did they find it? Or did they make a new Rattrap mould much like they did for the Dino Cassettes a while back?
13th March 2021, 01:25 PM
G1Optimal

Did they neuter them
as in the firing gimmick in optimus primal

reason i ask is im sure he had a deployable firing arm missle gimmick or something spring loaded missle
13th March 2021, 02:18 PM
Polursine

https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/...rimal-5-1.jpeg

Those weapons and missiles are a different colour. Mine are dark blue, not baby blue.
13th March 2021, 04:00 PM
Jaxius._

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Originally Posted by Zommael

IMO this is completely pointless. They were rumored to be Transmetals which would have made a lot more sense, but just putting out the original toys at the same time as the vastly improved Kingdom versions is just dumb.

same could be said with the g1 prime and soundwave reissues with er prime and netflix soundwave on the shelf around the same time.

this is for nostalgia, wonder if we will get rid reissues (hopefully without issues this time) and UT reissues in the next 10 or so years
13th March 2021, 08:08 PM
Zommael

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Originally Posted by Jaxius._

same could be said with the g1 prime and soundwave reissues with er prime and netflix soundwave on the shelf around the same time.

this is for nostalgia, wonder if we will get rid reissues (hopefully without issues this time) and UT reissues in the next 10 or so years

Releasing the Transmetal moulds would have checked the nostalgia box and been a nice complement to the Kingdom versions. Instead we get nice new versions and worse bigger old versions. Fail.
13th March 2021, 08:32 PM
griffin

IGN's price details were either a guess, or they were listing Hasbro's RRPs for Walmart... as the larger two are us$50 and the smaller two are us$23.

They are now up on Walmart, which has packaging images for two of them, including the back of Megatron's box that says Megatron and Optimus are Ultras and Cheetor and Rattrap are Megas... which is way off their original size class of a Deluxe and a Basic).
Optimus Primal
Megatron
Cheetor
Rattrap

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Originally Posted by DELTAprime

I really want a comment from Hasbro on the Rattrap mould.

Hasbro said at a Botcon back in the day the mould was lost. So did they find it? Or did they make a new Rattrap mould much like they did for the Dino Cassettes a while back?

Maybe that's why they are charging the same as Cheetor for Rattrap.
Then again, I was never able to accept that a reverse-engineered toy (like the Dino Cassettes) would cost more than one they designed from scratch... as the process of building the metal moulds (the toolings for the factory to use) would be the same for both toys, but the reverse engineered toy has skipped the expense of designing it and testing out the engineering. It's like having the "prototype" handed to them to create the moulds, which is several steps/months down the whole toy making process.
As such, it should be cheaper, and because of that, why can't we see more older toys re-released like the Dino Cassettes.

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Originally Posted by G1Optimal

Did they neuter them
as in the firing gimmick in optimus primal

reason i ask is im sure he had a deployable firing arm missle gimmick or something spring loaded missle

If they are no longer able to fire the missiles, it would probably be a safety reason... lawsuits are now a lot worse than they used to be when those toys were first released.

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Originally Posted by Polursine

Those weapons and missiles are a different colour. Mine are dark blue, not baby blue.

There are a few colour differences, but only the minor colours, as the main colours seem to look about the same.
Someone on one of the other fansites was complaining that the toys AND packaging wasn't identical to the originals. Not only would that be really tricky to do (particularly on the packaging with company names and details being different), but even fans like me who don't have sealed originals kept locked away for investment would prefer to have some minor differences to tell them apart (especially when they are out of packaging, so that they don't get mixed up).
13th March 2021, 08:34 PM
griffin

Just a heads up for those in Australia keen to get these... they are planned for release at BigW for August, but when they are officially up on their site, or advertised, it will be posted in the Oz news section.
13th March 2021, 08:42 PM
nalops

But then they can't really rerelease the original versions after the Transmetal ones. Might as well do it now while BW nostalgia is high because of Kingdom.

Is it really a bad thing if people who weren't able to get them growing up can do so now?
16th March 2021, 04:27 PM
MayzaPrime

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Originally Posted by nalops

But then they can't really rerelease the original versions after the Transmetal ones. Might as well do it now while BW nostalgia is high because of Kingdom.

Is it really a bad thing if people who weren't able to get them growing up can do so now?

Agreed! While I still have the originals the packaging has long since gone. I will be getting all these and keeping them MSIB for display.
16th March 2021, 09:34 PM
griffin

The two carded figures are going to be in "rock bubbles", which we didn't get here because we had the European production run (which was 6-12 months behind the American product, and as such, we got the rounded plastic bubbles that the Americans got after the first wave of stock).
When I was getting Americans to buy the toys for me in 1996 and ship them over, I don't think I got any rock bubbles... but I didn't keep the packaging back then, so can't be sure.... so I'm excited to soon have two as samples on display.
I remember dirge getting some Beast Wars toys before me (and probably the first in Australia to own some), so he might have had some rock bubbles without paying exorbitant secondary prices (they were so rare, and more interesting to have on display than the round plastic bubbles, they were also in more demand).
23rd April 2021, 09:49 PM
griffin

More official images of Optimus Primal, showing us the box front and back.
4th May 2021, 07:11 PM
MayzaPrime

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Originally Posted by griffin

More official images of Optimus Primal, showing us the box front and back.

Are we getting these here?
4th May 2021, 10:02 PM
dirge

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Originally Posted by griffin

I remember dirge getting some Beast Wars toys before me (and probably the first in Australia to own some), so he might have had some rock bubbles without paying exorbitant secondary prices (they were so rare, and more interesting to have on display than the round plastic bubbles, they were also in more demand).

Yeah I got Waspinator and Rattrap sent to me by Andrew Frankel (before he worked at Hasbro); they were rock bubble packed. I too opened & didn't keep the packaging. I wasn't aware at that time that it would end up rare etc.
5th May 2021, 06:55 AM
Zommael

I was never sure where the rumour that Rattrap's original mould was lost came from. As I recall, when they did the Beast Wars 10th figures, the reason Transmetal Rattrap was reissued was just so he'd have a deluxe toy, same as the others in that line, and that was what was stated by Hasbro. I didn't hear that the mould for the original was supposedly lost until much later.
5th May 2021, 01:58 PM
DELTAprime

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Originally Posted by Zommael

I was never sure where the rumour that Rattrap's original mould was lost came from. As I recall, when they did the Beast Wars 10th figures, the reason Transmetal Rattrap was reissued was just so he'd have a deluxe toy, same as the others in that line, and that was what was stated by Hasbro. I didn't hear that the mould for the original was supposedly lost until much later.

Hasbro mentioned a list of lost moulds at Botcon one year. Rattrap was on that list.
5th May 2021, 11:51 PM
griffin

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Originally Posted by MayzaPrime

Are we getting these here?

See post #12.
10th June 2021, 11:57 PM
griffin

Beast Megatron in-hand, by one of the usual sources of leaked toys... showing some of the subtle differences to the original 1996 toy.
7th December 2021, 11:13 PM
griffin

Now out in Singapore is wave 2 Deluxe Tigatron and Mega Scorponok, which were rumoured to be the next pair of Vintage Beast Wars toys.... and their release here will depend on how well the first four do here.
8th December 2021, 10:41 PM
loophole

Keen for Tigatron was the hardest one to find complete back in the day
8th December 2021, 11:09 PM
dirge

I love the fact that Tigatron gets a rock bubble... despite the fact the original never did :D
9th December 2021, 10:49 AM
Tha_Phantom

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Originally Posted by dirge

I love the fact that Tigatron gets a rock bubble... despite the fact the original never did :D

If they give Blackarachnia the same treatment I'm getting it. Otherwise I already have the original release sealed.
5th February 2022, 12:43 AM
griffin

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Originally Posted by griffin

Now out in Singapore is wave 2 Deluxe Tigatron and Mega Scorponok, which were rumoured to be the next pair of Vintage Beast Wars toys.... and their release here will depend on how well the first four do here.

Tigatron and Scorponok have now been listed on the US Walmart website, with Tigatron currently in stock.

And it looks like more Vintage Beast Wars toys are coming, with Deluxe Cybershark revealed by a UK online store.
5th February 2022, 01:02 AM
Autocon

Oof cybershark is tempting.....
24th February 2022, 09:45 PM
griffin

It looks like one of the people who manages to acquire unreleased toys has been able to get their hands on a large number of upcoming toys this week, with two more being vintage reissues Cybershark and Wolfang.
Cybershark has been listed at a retailer already, so with Wolfang showing up at the same time from the same source, I think it is likely that it will be the case-mate for wave 3.
25th February 2022, 10:23 AM
Autocon

Is the plastic quality the same as the originals?
25th February 2022, 02:45 PM
DELTAprime

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Originally Posted by Autocon

Is the plastic quality the same as the originals?

Putting aside figures like TM Megatron that was extremely fragile, the plastic quality is what you would expect for a BW figure.
25th February 2022, 04:40 PM
griffin

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Originally Posted by DELTAprime

Putting aside figures like TM Megatron that was extremely fragile, the plastic quality is what you would expect for a BW figure.

I think he I asking if these reissues have the same sort of plastic quality as the originals, if you have them side by side... something I can't answer as I won't be opening my reissues.
25th March 2022, 03:41 AM
griffin

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Originally Posted by griffin

It looks like one of the people who manages to acquire unreleased toys has been able to get their hands on a large number of upcoming toys this week, with two more being vintage reissues Cybershark and Wolfang.
Cybershark has been listed at a retailer already, so with Wolfang showing up at the same time from the same source, I think it is likely that it will be the case-mate for wave 3.

Hasbro has now officially shown off Cybershark and Wolfang as upcoming Vintage Beast Wars toys.
12th April 2022, 09:54 PM
griffin

And just a couple weeks later, the Cybershark reissue is out at US retail... which means Hasbro had the stock in America ready for Walmart, while officially revealing it to the fans.
13th August 2022, 03:02 PM
griffin

Chinese listings have been found, for the last two of the Vintage Beast Wars toys to be released for 2022 (not sure if anymore will come out next year, but based on most of the unreleased 4 to end the year, I doubt Hasbro or the Retailers will go for anymore).

Iguanus (basic sized lizard) and K-9 (deluxe sized dog).
These were originally scheduled for release in Australia (at BigW) in October, but since the last three have seen delays here, these two might end up being released closer to December.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/081201.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/081202.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/081203.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/081204.jpg
6th December 2022, 12:31 AM
griffin

K-9 has been found in New Zealand last week, so it should be showing up here soon, along with Iguanus.
16th December 2022, 01:27 AM
Autocon

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Originally Posted by griffin

I think he I asking if these reissues have the same sort of plastic quality as the originals, if you have them side by side... something I can't answer as I won't be opening my reissues.

Yes this