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I hope this movie turns out well.
I'm not sold on this movie yet (the missus was sold as soon as she saw a shirtless Jackman), it looks a bit...dodgy(?) when it comes tot he stunts and effects.
We also see a young Cyclops? Please correct me if I am wrong but doesn't that mean this film will contradict the Xmen series a little?
Wolverine had amnesia in the first two movies. He didn't remember anything/much about his Weapon X past. That could explain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
Not the movie series which gives Cyclops no origin at all. Any resemblance in the movies to the comic universe is purely coincidental. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
Just thought that Cyclops himself might remember Wolverine from his childhood, since Wolverine always seems to have amnesia about one part of his history or another. :D
SpoilersComic book Cyclops has missing time from his childhood and from what I've read in this movie he will be in a very similar situationSpoilerQuote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
One concern I have about this movie is the number of cameos of popular Xmen characters. I know it may be a treat for the fans but for the non-fan it will be confusing with little backstory, screen time for them to appreciate.
The scene of Wolverine walking towards the camera with the explosion in the background is so corny, doesn't really fill me with confidence...
I had the same thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksplatt11
I am also strongly against the 'bone claws' retcon even if it has appeared in comics before.
I'm just hoping it'll be better than the third Xmen movie
+1. While it wasn't quite the same as what Joel Schumacher did to the Batman movie franchise, Brett Ratner came close.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotaru_oz
I think the bone claw thing made more sense though.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
He'd have to have some sort of muscle control over them to make them come out and retract. That would be part of his mutation.
And have they specified that they are or are not just metal. If I remember right, all they said was that they covered his bones in that metal
and I quote "you were always an animal wolverine, i just gave you claws."
toucheQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutsman Heavy
Although he could be speaking metaphorically...:rolleyes:
I forget the exact conversation but when Jean was checking Logan out in the first movie she might have made comments about the claws being artificial (although by that time it was long established in the comics that the claws were natural).
But GP is right, as well as the muscle control thing, Wolverine's healing factor is a needed side effect when you have bones bursting out of your skin to heal the wounds and prevent infections (at least in comic book science!). :)
One of my more memorable moments in the 90s X-men cartoon was a flashback where Wolverine had just gone through the Weapon X procedure. He was unsure what had happened to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYaf9...eature=related (from 5:00)
He seems completly surprised and shocked by his claws.
has anyone talked to 'timothy' about an advanced screening? wondering how good this advanced screening would be due to its lack of completion...
Seriously, Kup, what isn't a retcon about Wolverine? Even the fact that his adamantium claws are part of him at all was a retcon - they were originally supposed to just be part of his gloves. He was initially meant to be a wolverine (yes, the small animal) that had been mutated into a young, agile human and wore gloves with retractable metal claws. Who'd pay to see that movie? (Okay, yes, I'd pay to see that movie.)Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Personally, I think having bone claws makes more sense than them being added by the Weapon X programme (which was itself a retcon). Plus it made for a great surprise climax to Wolverine #75. [I also like the fact that the movie is using Grant Morrison's Weapon X is a Roman numeral idea, i.e. in the comics, Wolverine is Weapon X (Ten), Captain America is Weapon I (One), Fantomex is Weapon XIII (Thirteen) etc.]
If it still starred Hugh Jackman... at least 90% of the female population. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
If it starred a perpetually shirtless Hugh Jackman, at least 100% of the female population. And much of the gay population, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
So I just got back from watching the new Wolverine movie.
Overall a pretty decent movie. It's enjoyable but is a bit sloppy with the pacing, plot and story telling but it delivered in action.
Raging young Logan was just hilarious. I don't know? It just was.
Agent Zero and Wade's first action scenes were probably the highlight of the movie for me.
Also Gambit was pretty ace. Him and Wade I wished had more screen time.
I guess I'm not a big enough Deadpool fan to be raging at what he became in the movie. Yeah it is pretty terrible but provided a decent but short final showdown.
Spot the cameo time, was that Quicksilver amongst the locked up mutants? I know I saw Toad.
I didn't download the leaked print. But I'm sure we didn't get any special secret endings that had been mentioned.
Good to hear that you didn't think it sucked big time so will catch it this weekend. Hopefully it will do decent at the box office considering the leaked print.
i agree too, more Gambit and Wade would of been great.Quote:
Originally Posted by piratescratch
and yeah i think that was Quicksilver too
That was Quicksilver.
Great movie. A lot of fun. Maybe just a little tame. More Remy and Wade would have been better. Be excellent if they had their own movies.
Emma wasn't as hot as she should have been.
Apparently there are different endings for each different cinema.
Highlight to read:
The one I went to showed Logan at a bar in Japan (well you assume that, the bartender and Logan both speak Japanese.)
Apparently there is one of Deadpool getting the severed head of Weapon XI showing that that wasn't Wade
don't know of any others, but I like the sound of the other one. Deadpool being weapon XI was kind of meh.
was emma the diamond covered chick? i dont know mt x-men that well :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger
does anyone know which cinemas will playing these different "secret" endings?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgndmyItrg0
Bootlegged Deadpool ending for those interested.
I liked the movie. I got what I expected from it. And it had the Transformers 2 trailer - so major wootage. :) I liked what they did with Sabretooth. I was a bit skeptical when I first saw Liev Schreiber being casted as Sabretooth due to his relative lack of bulk and size compared to Tyler Mane but I really enjoyed the way the character was written coupled with Schreiber's performance.
Different endings huh? That's interesting. I hope they'll chuck them all on the DVD. The screening I saw just ended with Gambit coming back for Wolverine, and he looks at the body of his old lover and has no idea who she is - demonstrating that he has lost all of his memory. Gambit invites him to join him and Charles Xavier, but he declines and becomes a loner.
I wouldn't kick her out of bed. :D Of course, everyone knows that the hottest character in the movie was Wolverine anyway - plenty of fan-service nudity (and strategic positioning of his left leg as he fell down that waterfall :p) during the whole Weapon X scene. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by loophole
Not different endings, different bloody-hell-I-waited-through-all-the-credits-and-all-I-got-was-thirty-more-seconds-of-$#!*s.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Aaah, easter eggs. I didn't stay through all the credits so I'm not sure if we saw anything.
Did you wait long enough to see Stryker's fate? Tip for all: never leave the cinema until at least some of the lights come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I was in Sky Shadow's situation, sitting through all the credits for no real pay off (except a vague suggestion apparently of what Wolverine 2 might be about). No one else hung through all those credits in my cinema except me, but after walking out on Iron Man I knew not to make that mistake again.
I thought the film suffered from the same flaws as all comic book origin films: I've read this story multiple times and it didn't add enough. Does this make sense to someone who hasn't read a Wolverine comic before?
Loved Ryan Reynold's Wade Wilson.
Loved loved loved Taylor Kitsch as Gambit (a character I never thought would work on film did so excellently) and he was totally hot. Yes Hugh's a good looking man, but Taylor as Remy is so much sexier. Give him a film!
Liev Schreiber was also great at Sabretooth and this film understood what makes Sabretooth an interesting character (unlike X-Men which made him a growling uninteresting henchman).
Hated the crappy CGI.
Liked the character cameos, but if you're going to have an X-Men story where Scott Summers as a kid is taken to a laboratory to be experimented on and you don't mention a Dr Essex or a Dr Milbury then you get a massive fail!
In general a faithful adaptation, particularly the Origin opening (despite the random aussie soap stars).
i have never read the origins of wolverine but have seen bits and pieces of the cartoon to make out what happened but the movie still made sense although it seemed pretty different to the cartoon, like there was no bald guy there to brainwash wolverine
im glad im not the only one that noticed some of the crappy cgi in it.
and i dont even know who Dr. Essex and Dr. Milbury are?
if anyone gets a chance you should watch the animated short of Hulk vs Wolverine it is awesome and does have bits and pieces about wolverines origin for the weapon X program :D
Essex is Mr Sinister's real name and Dr Milbury is one of his aliases, and a major element of Cyclops's origin is Mr Sinister experimenting on him all through his childhood until (basically) Xavier took him away.Quote:
Originally Posted by loophole
Oh and Digger, the Emma Frost in this movie is still a kid as well, before she had plastic surgery.
OMG of course. How noobish of me. :o:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
I love Emma's line about Scott's ongoing feelings for Jean from Astonishing X-Men #1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
"Superpowers, a scintillating wit, and the best body money can buy... and I still rate below a corpse."
Yeah, I normally would've stayed for the end of the credits, but I was kinda in a hurry to move my car because I'd gone overtime for parking. Gah. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
I'm glad Weapon X didn't have that goofy helmet or shackles from the comics.
What did you guys think about Agent Zero/Maverick? I didn't know much about the character before I saw the movie - so I guessed that his mutant power was Gun-Fu (extreme acrobatics + super marksmanship + heightened speed & reflexes)... but after doing a quick Google on him I don't recall seeing most of his original powers on the screen. The only possibly being his lack of a discernible scent (which would explain why Wolverine didn't smell him when he snipered that kindly old couple in the barn - although that could also be explained by the fact that he was very far away and using a long range sniper rifle).
Maverick was just a generic cipher in a costume that Jim Lee invented for X-Men #5. His backstory (such as it is) has been fleshed out since then. Over the past seventeen years in comics, Maverick has rarely either possessed or used his powers anyway. So Gun-Fu is pretty accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I'm pretty sure that's just bull$#!* someone posted online. The only confirmed Deadpool ending is the one where Deadpool/Weapon XI's dislocated arm walks over the rubble like 'Thing' from the Addams Family and rubs his own dislocated head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Phoenix
dunnun duh-nun *click click*! (^O^)
Fairy nuff. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow