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FP Crossfire Side Story - Causality
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I wonder what this is. And if FP is gonna realise they spelled "Causality" wrong. Or "Casualty."?
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Venksta mentioned awhile back that their original-design animal combiner had been shelved for "something cooler". I think they realised that few would care about their original designs compared to people's desire for them to plug gaps into their Classics collections.
Which is probably why Munitioner and Explorer here are decoed after Leyland and Shuttle Gunner from Operation: Combination.
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Originally Posted by
Tallestblue
I wonder what this is. And if FP is gonna realise they spelled "Causality" wrong. Or "Casualty."?
Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed. Unless it's intentional engrish.
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The more I look at it the more I'm convinced it's not a combiner but a series of 5 stand alone figures. The Knee on Warcry is flat, without the peg that attached to the foot piece.
The easiest way to release a repaint of the figures without the hassle of the rest of the combiner.
I'm going with causality since they got so close to it.
cause and effect. Very interesting.
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Hmm seems to me that the 3 more blackened figures kinda look like ... insecticons:). I dont think this will be a combiner group....
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Might just be artists' choice because the pegs looked a little dorky. Flameblast there seems to be missing the pin that holds the feet together in vehicle/arm mode.
Then again you may be right. I recall Venksta or somebody saying "Crossfire" referred to people outside of FansProject designing certain figures, not combiners exclusively.
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Originally Posted by
liegeprime
Hmm seems to me that the 3 more blackened figures kinda look like ... insecticons:). I dont think this will be a combiner group....
I reckon your spot on there Liege, I too think they look like the silhouettes of some updated Insecticons! :D - which would be incredibly awesome as they'll no doubt be of top quality and design and I agree that I don't think these figures are going to be combiners either as the Munitioner and Explorer look slightly retooled as well as repainted in that artist impression. :cool:
(Note: The head of Explorer, his sword and Munitioner's cannon wrists ;):))
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I also don't think these guys will combine. However I am pretty sure the silhouettes are Insecticons as in Bombshell, Shrapnel and Kickback. Who else could they be?
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No matter who or what they are, color me excited.
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...Fansproject Insecticons? Win.
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Hmm...
I dunno about you guys, but the Munitioner Retool/paint sort-of also looks like G1 Micromaster Growl.
Whilst the Explorer Retool/paint also looks like a mixed combination of G1 Micromaster Fireshot and Vanquish.
Could it be possible that these 2 are based on Micromasters you think? :confused:
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Originally Posted by
Hursticon
Hmm...
I dunno about you guys, but the Munitioner Retool/paint sort-of also looks like
G1 Micromaster Growl.
Whilst the Explorer Retool/paint also looks like a mixed combination of G1
Micromaster Fireshot and
Vanquish.
Could it be possible that these 2 are based on Micromasters you think? :confused:
They are clearly meant to be Leyland and Shuttle Gunner from Operation Combination.
Very obscure tributes but not bad I guess.
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Originally Posted by
kup
They are clearly meant to be
Leyland and
Shuttle Gunner from Operation Combination.
Very obscure tributes but not bad I guess.
I disagree. They're clearly meant to be Growl & Fireshot (maybe with some Vanquish thrown in) :p. Allow me to do some cut and pasting from another site...
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I don't know my Micromasters (bar a couple), but for the Swindle repaint, the colour scheme and name is clearly referencing Growl - even the new weapons match his.
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/9/99/G1-toy_Growl.jpg
And Fireshot is probably correct too. Definitely looks like (a great improvement to) his headsculpt. Strange that they gave a Decepticon blue eyes though, but it probably looks better than red eyes on a pink face from an aesthetic viewpoint.
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/1/14/G1...y_Fireshot.jpg
http://www.fansproject.com/wordpress..._Causailty.png
If they were original characters I may have passed them up, but I'm more interested now that they have pre-existing characters.
What will the other three be though? I don't recall any insectoid Micromasters, so perhaps the Micromaster theme will not apply at all 5 figures?
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And sorry for the triple post... but I'm doubting they're 3 Insecticons either. Fans Project do a very good job of homaging the original characters. If they did Kickback or Shrapnel, there's be Kickback's signature wings or Shrapnel's lightning-attractor thingos in silhouette.
I don't have any better suggestions though.
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Hmm..
Don't know what to think of these. If they are insecticons I'll definitely get them- but why pair them with the repainted blast off and swindle?
So far, haven't got any repaints of FP stuff- dunno whether I would get the repaints- are the heads remoulded? $100 for a pair of repainted figs is a bit steep.
There is just too much awesome stuff coming out next year with all the united/generations stuff, TFC devy, PE Reflector and other potential FP stuff, worried that I may not be able to get all of em. Hopefully they are spaced out through the whole year.
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Originally Posted by
gdmetro
So far, haven't got any repaints of FP stuff- dunno whether I would get the repaints- are the heads remoulded? $100 for a pair of repainted figs is a bit steep.
Yeah, it looks like both heads are remoulded (and the Flameblast headsculpt is particularly cool). Also they have new weapons and possibly some further remoulding.
I'm hoping these might be a bit cheaper than Munitioner & Explorer, since if they don't combine then they won't need all those extra parts. So I wouldn't expect them to cost $50 each.
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Originally Posted by
Oilspill
I disagree. They're clearly meant to be Growl & Fireshot (maybe with some Vanquish thrown in) :p. Allow me to do some cut and pasting from another site...
Thank you Oilspill, I knew I wasn't crazy! ;):p
I looked at Warcry, with his colour scheme and that gun on his wrist, thinking: "Where have I seen this before?".
I then looked at Flameblast and I thought: "There's got to be a connection here...".
Sure enough, Warcry was a dead ringer for Growl and Flameblast's colour scheme matched Fireblast and Vanquish perfectly and since you've pointed out Fireshot's Headsculpt, there really is no other explanation huh? :D
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Originally Posted by
Oilspill
Yeah, it looks like both heads are remoulded (and the Flameblast headsculpt is particularly cool). Also they have new weapons and possibly some further remoulding.
I'm hoping these might be a bit cheaper than Munitioner & Explorer, since if they don't combine then they won't need all those extra parts. So I wouldn't expect them to cost $50 each.
I too reckon that there will be further remolding and refinements apart from just straight repaints, after all FansProject are fans by name and I don't believe they would take the HasTakTom approach as that is what they've built a market with - doing the opposite. :cool:
I also expect these guys to be a little cheaper as there really isn't a need for all the extra kibble, but I do hope that you're wrong on the Insecticon front :o - I reckon they could do an awesome interpretation of those characters but you do have a good argument, but maybe they're transformed in such a manner so as to not infringe?, maybe they have a transformation that 'officially' looks different enough but when conveniently mis-transformed they look exactly like who they're supposed to invoke? :D
(A Bot can only dream... :p)
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CA-03 doesnt look like an insecticon. it has 2 claw blades on each arm - kinda like wolverine.
i initially thought it would be a combiner but after seeing the pics of growl and fireshot - i'd have to agree there.
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Originally Posted by
Oilspill
Yeah, I stand corrected, I believe you are indeed correct. However it is still somewhat funny that they chose to do Micromasters rather than those 'Combination characters which use the same molds they were originally tributing.
However this somewhat makes it cooler for me so I may actually get them.
The MTMTE Character model here helps to make the tribute more clear:
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/7/7f/G1...icon_MTMTE.jpg
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Certainly some interesting developments here, but I'm not going to get to excited yet, at least not until I see some actual mock ups.
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Hmmm yeah. Well I do see it now. I was only making a guess though with the Insecticon comment coz I couldnt figure it out what with all the shadow kibble Im seeing heheheh
Growl = Warcry - both being shouting utter horrific stuff like I'll mutilate you, youuuuu!!!
Flameblast a literal allusion to the name for Fireshot so with those remaining three then if not Insecticons, what the heck could they be?:confused::confused:
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Originally Posted by
Tallestblue
I wonder what this is. And if FP is gonna realise they spelled "Causality" wrong. Or "Casualty."?
I wonder if someone else also told them they misspelled the word (I sent FP a message about the misspelling last night).
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I think that it's just FP's style of weird Engrish. All of their written material seem to have a bit of it like "evil clone. OF YOU!!!" and so forth. I am not sure if they do it on purpose for fun or what.
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Originally Posted by
Sam
I wonder if someone else also told them they misspelled the word (I sent FP a message about the misspelling last night).
They'd already fixed it by this morning - that's pretty efficient.
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Originally Posted by
kup
I think that it's just FP's style of weird Engrish. All of their written material seem to have a bit of it like "evil clone. OF YOU!!!" and so forth. I am not sure if they do it on purpose for fun or what.
lol. I am now going to have to resist the urge to yell "Evil clone, OF YOU!!" all the time.
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Originally Posted by
Tallestblue
lol. I am now going to have to resist the urge to yell "Evil clone, OF YOU!!" all the time.
I have been doing that every single morning since I got Warbot Defender! :eek:
Help me...
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Originally Posted by
kup
I have been doing that every single morning since I got Warbot Defender! :eek:
Help me...
There,There. *Shoulder Pat.*
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Originally Posted by
kup
I have been doing that every single morning since I got Warbot Defender! :eek:
Help me...
Well at least you already got yours :( Xmas is near and still no Warbot boohooo!!!
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Fansproject have revealed the last 3 Transformers names (see first post)
-Stormshred
-Thunderbomb
-Backfire
which do strike a resemblance to G1 Insecticon names
-Shrapnel
-Bombshell
-Kickback
and the new surprise is they've added 2 more unknown Transformers to the line
(could a mod correct the spelling in the title please?)
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Very cool. It appears they are not the geewuniest of designs then, they seem to be fairly new takes on the 3 Insecticons.
I wonder if they'll be Cybertronian bug-mosterish designs (I don't see any wheels so I don't think they're Cybertronian vehicles).
Looks like Kickback's wings are now going to be swords.
Warcry & Flameblast are looking cool.
http://www.fansproject.com/wordpress...1/01/FG_35.jpg
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Originally Posted by
Oilspill
Very cool. It appears they are not the geewuniest of designs then, they seem to be fairly new takes on the 3 Insecticons.
I wonder if they'll be Cybertronian bug-mosterish designs (I don't see any wheels so I don't think they're Cybertronian vehicles).
Looks like Kickback's wings are now going to be swords.
Originally i did think those were swords and so dismissed them as being insecticons as well as Stormshred having 'wolverine-like' claws which didn't look like beetle antlers/claws.
also FP have revealed some new projects
-WB-002
-Crossfire-03
-(Audacity) Amelioration of Novel form
-HeartMaster — HM-001
-and much more….?
I'm going to guess from 'HeartMaster' that FP are going to take a stab at 'Hearts of Steel' as I can honestly say that i disliked Mastermind Creations Knight Morpher Commander. With the upcoming Shockwave and Insecticon versions - whoever makes the better version will be rolling in the bank :)
I'm actually looking at my KM-01 and Protector now, and i already want a refund on my KM - I'd even exchange it for a 2nd Protector.
KM is poorly designed, and doesn't show any creativity like the Protector does - but granted one is a trailer/power armour/battle station/roller clone, but I really like how Protector was designed to enhance playability. I really do have fun transforming protector that it makes having more than one redundant (cause i know quite a few people like to have 2 to display in both modes) because you are not making the most of your purchase if you dont sit down and transform him back and forth.
I transformed KM (didnt bother with trailer) and already i want to throw him in the bin. Its not even a decent toy to give to a kid.
/end rant.
but yes, i'm really looking forward to Causality and its 7 bots (maybe gestalt?)
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Originally Posted by
kaiden
FP have revealed some new projects
-WB-002
-Crossfire-03
-(Audacity) Amelioration of Novel form
-HeartMaster — HM-001
-and much more….?
Awesome news indeed and the above 2, Warcry and Flameblast, look to be quite interesting Repaint/Remolds that I am sure will end up costing less due to the lack of the 'Bruticus Upgrade' kibble. ;)
The 'Insecticons' certainly do look to be quite interesting interpretations, I like the idea of 'Cybertronian' Monster-Bugs proposed by Oilspill as that makes a lot more sense than 'Mass-Shifting' earth-like bugs :rolleyes:, quite cool though none the less. :cool:
The newly announced, upcoming figures are sure to be quite sort after, here's my interpretation of their production designations:
WB-002 - Warbot 2 aka Broadside. ;):D
Crossfire-03 - Classicsverse Devastator Upgrade (Can't remember where I read it but I'm sure FP said that 1. Crossfire is a joint design initiative and 2. Complete original works will be named differently). :confused:
Amelioration of Novel Form (Audacity) - A new upgrade set that seems to be based on a literary source (Hence why it's not Parallax) as opposed to televised media. :o
HeartMaster — HM-001 - This is easily going to be a Powermaster/Godmaster attempt which I'm SO hoping is a Classicsverse Optimus Prime upgrade kit! :D:D:D
(Though, it could also be a brand new Overlord armage figure? :eek:)
Looks like FansProject have realised they've got quite a following behind them and are looking to capitalise on their recent successes, good on them and Anubis speed as they've earnt their credit, money and respect so I look forward to seeing their continued success!... and some production shots. ;):p
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Originally Posted by
kaiden
I'm actually looking at my KM-01 and Protector now, and i already want a refund on my KM - I'd even exchange it for a 2nd Protector.
KM is poorly designed, and doesn't show any creativity like the Protector does - but granted one is a trailer/power armour/battle station/roller clone, but I really like how Protector was designed to enhance playability. I really do have fun transforming protector that it makes having more than one redundant (cause i know quite a few people like to have 2 to display in both modes) because you are not making the most of your purchase if you dont sit down and transform him back and forth.
I transformed KM (didnt bother with trailer) and already i want to throw him in the bin. Its not even a decent toy to give to a kid.
/end rant.
I know exactly what you mean. I feel like KM-01 will break the moment I pick him up again, so I don't. Now I know this won't help but MMC really learned something from it and fixed almost everything wrong with KM01 with the Annihilator. See Vangelus' KM02 review.
I know that's no help to people who can't get or don't want the Annihilator, but it really is a tremendous improvement. Plus the new sword looks awesome :D
Though I agree, I wouldn't give these two to kids. Too many small pointy and breakable bits.
Anyway, I'm loving these new shots. Though I would rather see the next Warbot.
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Really digging the look of these guys. Can't wait to see the others.
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Originally Posted by
Hursticon
HeartMaster — HM-001 - This is easily going to be a Powermaster/Godmaster attempt which I'm SO hoping is a Classicsverse Optimus Prime upgrade kit! :D:D:D
(Though, it could also be a brand new Overlord armage figure? :eek:)
It could be a Breastmaster. Since hearts are under the breastbone.
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Sky Shadow
It could be a Breastmaster. Since hearts are under the breastbone.
I say Deszarus :p (hey I can dream can't I? :D)
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Originally Posted by
Sky Shadow
It could be a Breastmaster. Since hearts are under the breastbone.
Sternum/Solar-plexus, indeed it certainly could be dude ;):)
Is there a difference between Breast and God Masters?
(I thought they were the same? :confused:)
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1AZRAEL1
I say Deszarus :p (hey I can dream can't I? :D)
OH *Beep* Yeah Man!!! :D
I hope that 'Heartmasters' are a new Powermaster type figure/kit because I love my PM Prime and would direly love to see what FP could do with the concept. :cool:
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Originally Posted by
Hursticon
Sternum/Solar-plexus, indeed it certainly could be dude ;):)
Is there a difference between Breast and God Masters?
(I thought they were the same? :confused:)
The Breastmasters have breasts that turn into animals, Godmasters have engines that turn into people (the Destron version of Skar was Clouder and although he looks like a bat he was a human too.)
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Sky Shadow
The Breastmasters have breasts that turn into animals, Godmasters have engines that turn into people (the Destron version of Skar was Clouder and although he looks like a bat he was a human too.)
Ah!
So for the US continuity they're all lumped under 'Powermasters' whereas in the Japanese continuity Animals are 'Breastmasters' and Humanoids are 'Godmasters' bar that one exception? :eek:
Cheers dude, now I know... ;)