Even more clear coloured images of MP-52 from other angles mirrored from TFW2005. The alt mode looks animation accurate from all angles, even the bottom. The bot mode's back and side views are OK (can't get any worse than Bumblebee v2, i guess).
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Even more clear coloured images of MP-52 from other angles mirrored from TFW2005. The alt mode looks animation accurate from all angles, even the bottom. The bot mode's back and side views are OK (can't get any worse than Bumblebee v2, i guess).
Looks absolutely superb. I hope they can avoid the quality control issues which plagued recent releases like Optimus Prime and Hound.
I just can't bring myself to like this. It feels like a step back from even MP-03. The alt mode is worse, and I'll concede that while the bot mode is more accurate to the cartoon than MP-03 and MP-11, it's still not particularly accurate.
Up on AmiAmi = $283 and HLJ = $320
I'll be that guy
It's $499 at EB Games with a $50 deposit.
https://www.ebgames.com.au/product/t...sion-20-figure
far out. ebgames is making a handsome profit from that price.
im hoping i can travel to hk in the future and buy it at a decent price.
only downside is it doesnt have a coronation set. would have been perfect with that.
Count me out at that price.
OMP's preorder price is SGD$280 (~AUD$300 or ~$325 shipped). The prices of MPs are seriously expensive now but since this mould is the definitive version of Starscream and the other G1 jets, and since I only have an MP-07, I'll get the main 3 and call it quits for G1 jets forever.
I think am I done with Masterpiece Transformers; I haven't been a fan of the change to "hyper cartoon accuracy" and I can see that new Masterpieces are probably just going to be V2/3 of the older Masterpieces to make sure they all look alike.
Not to mention the increasing cost (due to the extra complex Transformations to hide things?) ..
I couldn't justify the expense of Optimus v3 or BW Megatron... and have trouble wanting to buy a lot of the recent ones due to their higher prices... this one I've decided against getting as well. :(
I couldn't justify Optimus V3 either. And I only have BW Megatron because of the generosity of Hursty. I wanted him to fill out my BW collection a bit better, but had trouble affording him. Starscream V3 I'm like, "another Starcream, really?" just has me turned away from buying more. And SharkyMcShark has it right, they're kinda uninteresting when it's pretty much all panel forming.
For me it's, the opposite, I a actually really like it when they use a bit of clever trickery to account for the impossibility of cartoon morphing, it makes the transformations (which can be quite complex) a more satisfying interaction. The main toy line seems to have gone down the more straightforward G1 toy with modern design look that Masterpiece used to be, so it feels like MP's are going the complex translation and ultra toony way just to separate the two lines.
That said I'm not defending everything about the MP line, it is prohibitively expensive, and much like the main toy line they keep releasing the same G1 characters over and over again.
I will probably end up getting Starscream so I can sample the design and the transformation and see how they pull it off, but once I've done that I can't see why I'd want to get any repaints at that price.
The transforming away of the horizontal and vertical stabilisers is what has me sold. That is not a small thing in terms of cartoon accuracy (if that's what you value). I also like the folding of those bottom spikes of the wings (where the wings abut the air intakes) compared to MP-11.
But still, the price...
On the bright side, I can't imagine another Megatron or Optimus, so this is probably it for the G1 jets. And maybe all the rich collectors who fork out for the main 6 (or more?) allow HasTak to develop MP Mirage or Jazz or Trailbreaker or Galvatron... dunno.
As gorgeous as it looks, I ain’t forking out $500 for it. As well as the prospect of another 5 x$500 for the other seekers.
To date, I have continued to collect every single release, and almost all of the exclusives, but not the cross-over ones with other brands. But the last one I actually opened and played with was Ironhide from a few years ago.
The prices on new MPs have gotten ridiculous for a while, now even more so. If I didn't start off collecting from the very beginning, I probably would not have been motivated to continue collecting the new ones.
The high price also puts me off from opening and playing with one. I fear I'd scratch the paint or damage the toy in some way. The Siege / Earthrise lines are giving me the same characters and more satisfaction at the moment.
I agree with this. Convoy v3 does look very good in both modes and I did get him. But I can't help but feel the MP transformation on these recent ones "cheat" a lot. All the parts on the surface of the robots are "fake" car parts. I much prefer the windows on Prime's chest being the actual truck windows as on MP Convoy v2. It is so iconic and one part I could not forgive for any "cheating"...
I disagree, I don't think it's "cheating." The reality is, one of the modes, more likely the robot mode, is going to lose aesthetically if various vehicle parts aren't fake. Unless there was a way to physically make them smaller and change shape when in robot mode, since that's what they essentially do in the cartoon. It's like asking for Masterpiece Megatron to mass-shift into a much smaller handgun that can be held by other Transformers. And no one was calling for that.
More generally, I think the popularity of third-party companies with hyper-toon looking MPs is forcing Takara to attempt to match them/keep up with the competition.
Even if $300, you can't have 1 without at least Skywarp and Thùndercracker to match that style... and if they have plans for coneheads or other seekers, it will be more difficult to say no to a larger matching set.
I actually think that a higher price suggests that the repaints are NOT planned to follow.
Look at recent excessively priced MPs
Hound
BW Megs
BW Dinobot
BW BA
BW Tigatron
The high price of Starscream lends to the mould not being planned for multiple repaints.
I understand cost is a concern re: getting the whole set. But if I couldn't afford them all -note they r not necessarily coming out at once - I would either give up something (eg. give up all non-masterpiece transformers - their cost really adds up as there are so many of them), or I would just get one of my favourite character (probably Starscream). Some toys though look too good not to get. Mind u, I don't want one with QC issues and I avoided Prime version 3 because of that and the ridiculous cost (we thought Unicron was expensive).
I wish TakaraTomy would give us MP versions of Jazz, Mirage, Hoist, Trailbreaker, Skids and Cliffjumper etc. before planning any more version 2 or 3.
Correct and it is the most expensive MP to date as well.
Also, MP52 Starscream isn't THAT badly priced. Okay it IS more expensive than previous Screamers, but given that it's on the larger side of things and increased complexity I actually think this is one of the better priced modern MPs, especially considering that the coneheads were only $50 cheaper and this is more complex than those.
It is absolutely assured that we will get Thundercracker, Skywarp and any other repaints which can be imagined. This is Takara Tomy we?re talking about.
It makes good financial sense to do repaints. What makes plastic toys expensive are the moulds. That's why model kit aeroplanes and tanks cost insane amounts for a bit of plastic - the chemical plastic is trivial, but the moulds are gold. I've said before that I'm not a fan of coneheads and here's why. When I was kid I thought it was a rip off that the cartoon made Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust not fold their cones down (when the toys all shared the same fuselages) to differ them from Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. To me, it was an obvious attempt to reuse the moulds without looking like reusing the moulds. And guess what, many incarnations of jets later (Masterpiece, non-Masterpiece, this line, that line) here we're are at MP-52 and a long history of repaints.
Also, thank you Dan Akroyd for reinforcing my non-obsession to collect coneheads (hated that movie for exactly the same reason - cones look stupid) :).
I disagree, as the third party companies generally had a level of stylization in their offerings up until Takara started going the full toon route with Ironhide. Since then the third parties making MP style toys followed suite, and started to reduce the surface detail. When it comes to Transformers Takara and Hasbro set the rules, third parties are a little fish by comparison.
I think Takara went the full toon style because of A: the designer and B: the highly source accurate appearance of expensive collectors toys from other franchises.
In the case of Starscream it's kind of funny when people argue that this new version is too slavish to the toon, when the first MP Starscream was criticised for deviating too much from the source.
Yeah, 3P had nothing to do with it. Takara have been making gradual steps toward toon accuracy for a long time, you could even argue as far back as the G1 reissues of the early 2000s with changes like red or blue eyes and adding extra accessories. It's just that now with MPs it's gone completely toon with zero G1 toy influence (aside from the + repaints).
This is the best thing I've read in a long time.
This. I understand there are licensing issues with Jazz, but I would happily shell out my hard earned for each of the Autobots Kyle mentioned. Even at $200-300 a pop.
I have zero interest in a second MP Starscream. I am perfectly happy with my Hasbro MP Starscream, MP-6 Skywarp & MP-7 Thundercracker.
C: Because fans keep demanding "CaRt0oN aKkURaSe3~!" :rolleyes:
...which doesn't even make sense considering that the G1 toys existed first... but wateva. If fans keep demanding to have new G1 toys that resemble the cartoon, then TakaraTOMY will continue to step up to meet this demand.
Starscream looks amazing, especially in colour, but even before the prices were announced, I found I didn't have a strong desire to buy this figure, even with a fear of missing out. Putting it next to MP-11 will probably make the older figure look bad in comparison, but unlike Optimus, I'm happy enough with MP-11 and don't feel a need to upgrade.
I think I'll just enjoy this one vicariously by looking at photos and videos of it.
The high prices likely reflect the development costs and a desire to make back the R&D money on initial release. None of the Beast Wars figures really have repaint potential. Hound could potentially get the 'plus' treatment or even get repainted as Detritus, either one as a store exclusive, but I doubt they would sell as well as regular releases. Besides, it seems very strange to spend money developing a new Starscream and not further monetise the work that went into development of the figure by making redecos of it. Like Skyfire typed, these things aren't cheap, and it makes sense to monetise the moulding with repaints.
Yeah, I get that. I want Jazz and Mirage and Galvatron and Cyclonus, but I also accept that a new version of a popular character like Starscream (and its repaints) will help to pay for R&D on those new figures.
The cartoon existed to sell toys, and doubtless there were children who thought it was strange that the toys of several characters bore a passing resemblance at best to the characters on-screen. I can understand if the idea is to give nostalgic collectors faithful figures of what they saw on-screen as children.