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I can't believe ppl are justifying cold blooded murder by the 'good guys'!
War hardened is one thing. Shooting a bot in the face that is obviously incapacitated is another.
It was done purely to make Prime into a 'bad ass'. It doesn't. It makes him a sociopath.
Optimus Prime should not be Mr. Blonde.
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I agree.. they did plenty of running and hiding in the TV series. ROTF its more the Decepticons are running and hiding and the Autobots are searching the planet for any life signs, then going straight in for the kill.Originally Posted by Demonac
Prime's execution of a fleeing Demolishor, and I still can't believe Ravage had his spine ripped out.
Cold-blooded (in a robot?) murder in a Decepticon makes sense. They're supposed to be the bad guys that tried to enslave the planet a number of times in the cartoons - this is what the Autobots should protect against, not arbitrarily exterminate.
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Peace Through Tyranny
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Guys, guys, guys....This isn't your daddy's Transformers. It's a different interpretation of the Transformers universe including changes to certain characters personalities (look at Jetfire ferchrisakes!), so if you can't handle that then I suggest going home and crying to mumma.
I don't actually believe Prime was being unbotmane anyway. He basically had to totally **** Demolishor up before he would stop killing you, your family and your little pet Catilla too. What was he meant to do with the fubar, no doubt beyond repair Demolishor once he was finally stopped? "Oh come on guys, he's 10 times our height and weighs the same as a small country but come on, let's muck together and carry him home where we can start on the repairs!" *cue BB shooting himself in the face*
Yes, the execution itself may have seemed a bit psycho at the time but Prime's all about saving humanity and just witnessed hundreds of human lives go down the proverbial. Can you blame him for being a bit pissed?
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Great guys... you got him started. Everyone get comfy! Listen, and understand... The Gutsmanator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until Bay is dead.
I've told you this a million times, but will say it again... you, sir, are a genius!
QFT!
Thank God for that! I would be embarrassed showing ROTF to a Newbie as the only representation of everything I love about Transformers.
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Well said,Guys, guys, guys....This isn't your daddy's Transformers. It's a different interpretation of the Transformers universe including changes to certain characters personalities (look at Jetfire ferchrisakes!), so if you can't handle that then I suggest going home and crying to mumma.
I don't actually believe Prime was being unbotmane anyway. He basically had to totally **** Demolishor up before he would stop killing you, your family and your little pet Catilla too. What was he meant to do with the fubar, no doubt beyond repair Demolishor once he was finally stopped? "Oh come on guys, he's 10 times our height and weighs the same as a small country but come on, let's muck together and carry him home where we can start on the repairs!" *cue BB shooting himself in the face*
Yes, the execution itself may have seemed a bit psycho at the time but Prime's all about saving humanity and just witnessed hundreds of human lives go down the proverbial. Can you blame him for being a bit pissed?
It's true ROTF sucked Devastator's very large balls, but I will defend the right for Prime or any other Autobot to kill Decepticons, even in a execution style manner. The Decepticons in the movieverse are unlike anything we have ever seen, they are far more sadistic and brutal then any other universe I know, they won't think twice about gutting a Autobot for the fun of it.
Perhaps the movie comics probably demonstrate this better than the actual movies themselves I guess: Demolisher slaughtered entire Autobot settlements on Cybertron, besides probably killing a load of people in China, he got what was coming to him, perhaps that factored in to Prime's decision to kill him?
Megatron is commiting mass genocide on his own people, the Autobots are on the verge of extinction. This is a war, at some point you gotta pick up a gun and start shooting, stop being a victim and start being a soldier.
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Yes in films the good guys sometimes have to kill the bad guys (or allow them to die). It happens. It even happens in most Disney animated films! But shooting a defeated opponent, and one that was causing no trouble until you showed up to kill him, isn't what you expect outside a film about the Punisher.
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, right? Someone said that once. I thought it was Prime. I prefer to believe that the robot Prime shot in the head was just another of the dozens or more mindless drone constructicons, like the ones that appear later, rather than a living sentient Transformer.
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DEMOLISHOR: I know you're not going to kill me, Optimus. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, right?
<BLAM!>
PRIME: Now you're free, bitch.
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Okay so let's just say we're at the scene where Prime, Ironhide etc. rock up in front of the defeated (and totally fubar) Demolishor. We already know how Bay's version ends, what would people opposed to this ending like to see happen? I'm genuinely intrigued.
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Right at the point where Wheel-Bot is going to talk about Fallen, a missile is fired, destroying him. This would be the introduction of Starscream, mercilessly killing one of his own to stop him from spilling the beans.
I came up with that in 10 seconds, and was paid nothing...where is the justice in this world? :P
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