View Poll Results: Kre-O TFs wave 1 - worth buying?

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    I bought Jazz and Optimus + Trailer today. Managed to make Jazz only and saving Optimus at a later date.

    First I wanted to inspect the quality of the plastic. Pretty good. Closest I've seen any competing building block toys have ever been but it is still a notch or two below the outstanding quality of Lego.

    Second, I wanted to see how they connect. For the most part great, until you get to the longer pieces. These just don't have the strength of Lego when I tried this. The piece just wouldn't fit in and bent out and had to gently force it in. NEVER happens with Lego. Up to 3 studs wide plates are ok but the larger ones just don't quite ease itself in easily.

    With those two above I can only assume that Lego's molds are much much more precisely engineered than these. Although plastic quality is almost as good.

    The minifig quality were ok. They still feel a little cheap every now and then but I do like that the shoulders and legs are on ball joints allowing for the arms and legs to fan sideways a little for varied poses. The rotating waist joint is a nice touch ruined, by default, by the blocky waist. Conceptually though, Having G1 styled Minifigs will drive the sales for these sets.

    With Jazz I went and built the robot mode. Nothing surprising here, just a lot of random pieces (designed for vehicle mode) piled on together and then covered up by signature panels. The ball joints have a very hard rubber coating which should help the ball joints longevity. They can be quite stiff, which is awesome in my opinion. I just hope that they don't wear out. Time will tell but for now. A big plus over Lego's plastic on plastic ball joint that eventually gets loose. The ball jointed heads are certainly going to be just as popular as the Minifigs in these sets. So completists and those wanting official TF heads for use with their Lego sets. Here they are. The majority of the bricks are carbon copies of Lego bricks with some having some minor adjustments some actually for the better. There are a few original bricks that feel well thought out, rather than just having it for the sake of originality. Then again there is a hologram sticker stating compatibility with leading brands. Obviously wants to attract soem of the LEgo fans.

    Jazz's Robot mode is what I expected for the size of the kit. While it would have been nice for a few more articulation points, especially a knee bend, the resulting figure is decent. It doesn't really look like Jazz since the doors are too small and is pretty much hidden at the back and the legs are nowhere near what it's meant to look like based off any of its G1 or Classics design. The head, colours and a few signature flourishes distinguishes this as Jazz, but otherwise it could have been ANY robot if you took the head out and used another colour scheme. By the way they used a silver colour for Jazz. Would have preferred all white, it would have looked better. The robot mode has just the right proportions but the vehicle mode looks a little squashed or "cute" looking. I'll make the vehicle next time and will post what I think.

    For the price... $20 (unsure what rrp actually is) I think it's pretty good. Two Minifigs and a decent amount of parts, and a nice variety of it too, with only a handful of "basic" bricks in the set with a lot of specialized bricks and plates, this is pretty good value for this set. Comparatively with Lego, minor plastic quality difference aside, this is better value than the asking price of contemporary Lego sets. MUCH better value. The designs are a heck of a lot better than the Exo Force robots from a few years ago and merges two of my favorite toys together. Who doesn't want G1 style Minifigs? Plus those robot heads are just awesome. I understand that engineering an actual transforming kit is a challenge, but here's hoping future waves will have them.

    I'd say give it a shot on sale prices. The minifigs are pretty, so I'd suggest skipping the basic Optimus & Bumblebee and try out Jazz or Mirage and see what you think.

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    I actually disagree on the smaller Bumblebee.

    I thought it'd be a throwaway too, as it has no Kreon.

    But it looks TERRIFIC. EVERY visitor that's seen these has gravitated to him immediately, commenting on how good he looks 'for LEGO'.

    He does look great in robot mode. I'd even go so far as to say SURPRISINGLY GREAT.

    The larger Optimus set, on the other hand, is an exercise in frustration. It's often difficult to tell in the instructions what part you're supposed to use (the light grey, dark grey, or is that the silvery grey?) as they seem to change slightly. Some of the angles we're shown really DON'T tell you where some pieces need to go.

    The stickers are the wrong colours, and fairly ugly anyway.

    The truck mode looks okay once assembled, but man, that thing is NEVER getting taken apart again. Just absolutely frustrating and annoying.

    So fair warning on him. He's NOTHING like the pleasant experience of Mirage, who I think has been the best so far, or Ratchet, Prowl, or small Bumblebee (my total built so far).

    Next I'll try and relax with the larger 'Bee, I think.

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    One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned yet is the playability of these toys. I'm sure they're more solid in vehicle mode (I've only built mine in robot mode) but when trying to pose Jazz, some of the parts came loose and I had to press the pieces together again - if that makes sense. I don't see these guys fairing well in epic play battles.

    That is my only negative thing to say about them! Basic Optimus and Jazz are the same height which looks odd since Optimus has such a skinny torso. The yellow of Bumblebee's bricks is fantastic and so are the silver bricks used for Jazz. I made a little addition to Jazz, I put the left over window pieces on his back and added his name plate to the front (like basic OP). I kinda wish then wheel arch pieces were included in his robot mode, but you can't have everything.

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    I picked up Jazz and Mirage.
    I haven't even opened them and have recognised inconsistencies in he packaging.
    There guys are the same 'class' and have the same sized boxes, why does one of them have those stick circles on all openings while the other one only has it on the top? O_o

    Will post an in depth if I can find digital camera!

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    Jazz is the movie version? Not g1/classics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autocon View Post
    Jazz is the movie version? Not g1/classics?
    I think it's supposed to be G1 but it's silver not white n

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    First off, these are for you Hursty. As a tease Of what may potentially come :P
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    Okey dokey, where to start. These guys in their boxes are pretty tiny. Well, a lot smaller than what I thought they would have been (I was under the impression the boxes were a lot larger, the basic Optimus and BB boxes are considerably smaller than this also).

    Upon opening the boxes, the insides were pretty secure mainly because the instructions are too big for the box and actually compressed everything.


    Oh yes, the instructions are upside down and the stickers were in different locations within the box (as in different layers).
    Here are a couple of photos of the bags in the boxes and then inside the even bigger box which I took these photos within XD I didn't touch these inside the box, I grabbed photos first.


    I started with Mirage and this was where my initial annoyances began.
    Now, I may just be comparing these to lego but the holes inside of the studs really really annoy me. They are so randomly placed and don't really fit in.

    As you can see here, two of the same piece. Though the hole is on different sides... :/
    Another thing that I found quite interesting to note is that the actual stud length seems to be a miniscule too short, the pieces don't feel so secure connecting. I confirmed this by attaching some pieces to lego bricks.

    With lego on the bottom, everything was perfect but the other way around wasn't so secure...


    Check out this hilarious piece! It's two 1x1 flat pieces on top of one another


    Mirage minifigure. I don't seem to have the same QC problems everyone else is having, this minifigure is saaa-weeeeeeetttt!


    One of the things that I realised was the ingenuity of piece placements. In this pic for example there is a closed hinge which seems out of place (there is actually one underneath the axle piece, I deleted the photo because it was even worse than this one), however...

    Upon placing the next piece, it creates a nice bit of detailing which actually looks quite good on the final F1 car.


    :3 1x1 slopes!


    More ingenious applications to incorporate as many pieces as possible into both modes.


    Good use of hinges here, I just liked this step because it wasn't as halfassed as the first hinge you place on (which is sideways and hangs off thebase of the car...).


    Completed vehicle mode! I didn't apply stickers because too be honest, I just don't want to yet :P
    Note the extra pieces, Mirage doesn't have any redundant pieces but there are still a few in vehicle mode (pretty much all the balljoints of the robot mode...).


    Disassembled, ready to start the robot mode!


    Mister Peng-wennnn


    Yeah... No. Also, extra pieces.
    Now, onto Jazz. Upon cracking this baby open and tipping out all of the pieces I noticed something which is highly annoying and unavoidable...


    Ah well...
    Having learned from the monstrosity that is the Mirage robot mode I decided to kick this one off as a robot so that I didn't have to pull it apart twice.


    While this one is a lot better than Mirage, it doesn't do a thing for me (although it would look stacks better with the stickers actually applied).


    Extra pieces.


    Completed vehicle mode + extra pieces (all the joints again).


    You're probably wondering what happened to these guys.
    Well, I didn't like them so I decided to melt them.
    I actually recorded it and have uploaded it to youtube just to entertain and annoy some people.


    Overall, I really love the engineering behind these vehicle modes. Paying the $16 each for these vehicles is worthwhile to me, whether or not you feel the same is completely up to you. I can totally see the robot modes appealing to little kids, they don't do anything for me though.

    The plastic quality is actually quite good, obviously not lego quality but it is the closest I've ever felt. It laughs at megabloks. I would recommend them and may be picking up more when there are more sales
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillinSpoon View Post
    You're probably wondering what happened to these guys.
    Well, I didn't like them so I decided to melt them.
    I actually recorded it and have uploaded it to youtube just to entertain and annoy some people.
    Youtube ads man, really killing the lawls

    Good review K-Spoon. I'm quite tempted to get some, not for the god awful designs mind you, but for some of those unique parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lint View Post
    Youtube ads man, really killing the lawls

    Good review K-Spoon. I'm quite tempted to get some, not for the god awful designs mind you, but for some of those unique parts.
    I'll bring mine to show you?
    The vehicles are great, I really like the designs. The only god awful part about them is the robots.
    While I was playing with them for the first time I was describing it to GP, I tried to relay as much of that rage/praise as I could into the above post without going too long :/
    That, and I would be repeating myself lots.

    The plastic on Jazz really kills him for me, but I like him without the stickers as he looks like a protoype 911 with a muscle car front end. I don't think the stickers will match and will ruin this. Seriously though, every single silver brick has that problem... I'll take a few more photos of it up close just to show how bad it is.

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    I got all 12 Kre-O sets and starting to make some randomly.

    Made Jazz and echo people's sentiments.

    Now onto, Optimus Prime (small one)

    The rear wheels are placed way too close to each other.

    Also due to the plastic tooling, where you push the wheel in, on one side only, you have difficulties removing the wheel. I had to use pliers to squeeze pop out axle and pull the rim off.

    I ended up shaving the axle so the rim comes out easily.

    Not kind of the way you want to be exposed to Kre-O

    I grew up with Lego as a young boy and I can tell that it is not Lego quality. It is a bit cheaper.

    It is scary how other companies are allowed to make fake Lego now!
    I'm walking away from Transformers. Check out my sales thread

    http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showth...089#post314089


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