What are the best Transformers fight scenes?

[GoktimusPrime]

I really enjoyed that fight for some reason. I think it's because I watched it as a kid and prior that fight, my only other TF-exposure was G1 Season 1 & 2 which did not have that sort of Japanese violence (or J-rock, which sounded pretty cool to me as a kid ).

You must have been overseas or had access to taped episodes from overseas if you saw it as a kid, cos The Headmasters was never aired in Australia (or available on video, laserdisc etc.). I was already a young adult when I saw The Headmasters... got the entire series on VHS recorded off laser disc which I swapped for the Beast Machines Dinobots (which were never released in Japan, so some dude in Tokyo wanted them). So yeah... I was already an adult and was pretty critical of that scene.

*sigh* I no longer have a working NTSC VCR... I really should get my Headmasters tapes converted onto DVD because the existing DVD version has some stuff cut out of it that the LD version has. I might be more motivated if The Headmasters wasn't such a cruddy series. (though I still prefer it over The Rebirth)

So did you watch it in Japanese or in that godawful English dub? (Billy!) I never saw the English dubs until I got the DVD... I watched a few seconds, then that was it. <shudder> Never thought that I'd see a dub that makes the dubbing in Macross Clash of the Bionoids look good. <extreme.shudder>

[SuspectimusPrime]

*sigh* I no longer have a working NTSC VCR... I really should get my Headmasters tapes converted onto DVD because the existing DVD version has some stuff cut out of it that the LD version has. I might be more motivated if The Headmasters wasn't such a cruddy series. (though I still prefer it over The Rebirth)

What is this stuff you speak off??

So did you watch it in Japanese or in that godawful English dub? (Billy!) I never saw the English dubs until I got the DVD... I watched a few seconds, then that was it. <shudder> Never thought that I'd see a dub that makes the dubbing in Macross Clash of the Bionoids look good. <extreme.shudder>

My dad grabbed a few taped episodes (in no particular order) dubbed in Cantonese from HK when I was elementary school, and then much later on I found fan-subbed torrents of the Japanaese originals. I'm quite sure those same files has the English dubs as well but I never bothered with them, having watched a few episodes of Masterforce with the fan-dubs In hindsight, I found the HK-subs quite good, both Magnus and Sixshot's voice actors were quite convincing. But yes, that period was very confusing as I couldn't figure out if Transformers originated from the Americans, Honkies, or Japanese.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's not hard for any dubbing of anything to be better than the English dubs of the Japanese G1 series. The dubbing on them is so bad that it just fails in translating the story, also, their English is _so_bad_!! A lot of words aren't even pronounced correctly it's damn hard to understand what they're trying to say. I remember watching the Masterforce dubs with Jhiaxus, who himself doesn't speak Japanese, then later we watched The Headmasters in raw Japanese -- he preferred watching The Headmasters! The voice acting was superior (I don't know if you can even use the word "acting" w/ the English dubs) and either way he wouldn't understand what the hell people were saying anyway! (i.e. choice between listening to terrible incomprehensible English, or comprehensible Japanese even if you can't understand it) I guess that when he was watching The Headmasters, he could just focus on the animation and guess the story through visuals and the acting (i.e. emotions, tone of voice etc.), whereas watching Masterforce dubbed - the bad English gets distracting... as an English speaker you can't really ignore it... we couldn't stop rolling on the floor laughing our butts off at it, so much so that we couldn't pay any attention to the story! It wasn't until I finally got Masterforce on DVD years later and watched it in Japanese that I started understanding what the hell was going on!