HasTak VS Other bots

[Autocon]

Do you think the quality and piant apps are better on 3rd party items than hastak?

You complain about spending $25 on a deluxe, then spend $100 odd dollars on a third party toy.

Is it worth it? Would you spend ~$80 on a deluxe if there was great paint apps and engineering from hastak?

[SuspectimusPrime]

If you are referring to $80 or almost 3 times the normal cost, for a Deluxe found in stores, I would say definitely no. If that's the price on the shelf then think of what Fun Pub will ask for their exclusives!

If it was double the cost of a normal Deluxe, perhaps. However it would need a Masterpiece level of sculpted detail for cartoon/comic accuracy (maybe interchangeable faces I'll never dare to use); assessories (however unnecessary, like Kremzeek with MP Megs); to not be a repaint; to be of the right scale with the rest of the CHUG lines; and with character bios written by Furman/Roberts and box art (box and not card back) by Guido Guidi

Also, most $100 3PP's are voyager size and upwards. Dexlue 3PP's so far are FP Insecticons and Maketoys individual constructions ($390/6) are about $60-70 each

[VERT]

3rd party stuff is expensive due to small production runs. Hasbro make 1000's and 1000's more of the same figure. and then repaint the hell out of it. The bigger the run the cheaper it is to produce. If everything Hasbro does looked as good and was like MP Sideswipe I would pay more. But they dont, They are now smaller and cheaper quality than in the past.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Most people on here have spent 100's for deluxes if you total the amount of money spent on the same mould... Classic seeker for instance! That should probably retail for about $2 based on how many times Hasbro has re-run that one :P

[kup]

Most people on here have spent 100's for deluxes if you total the amount of money spent on the same mould... Classic seeker for instance! That should probably retail for about $2 based on how many times Hasbro has re-run that one :P

Yeah, it doesn't have to be 3rd party for a deluxe toy to soar up in price. Exclusives have been at around 3rd party prices for a long time and one could argue that they are of lesser quality as they are just repaints with not as many paint apps and the same quality plastic as a standard toy. Some of them can even cost a lot more once they reach after market.

Before the dawn of the 3rd parties and the Hasbro/Tomy re-releases, the Botcon 07 seekers were going for $250-$300 a piece!

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't think any toy is worth paying substantially above RRP for. As VERT said, due to economies of scale, third party toys (and some exclusive toys) are more expensive due to their smaller production runs. Exclusive toys that are straight up repaints usually sell for about the same as the regular mould's RRP (e.g. most eHobby toys), but where there is a retool in a certain set (e.g. BotCon box sets), the cost of the set or each figure is increased to offset the cost of the retooling which is done in a very limited run.