Animated Elite Guard BB and Swoop Pics

[MV75]

I remember when Hasbro used to make Transformers that actually turned into stuff, not anorexic paper cranes.

Yes damn them for making something more elaborate than the peice of paper folded over.
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[dirge]

Yes damn them for making something more elaborate than the peice of paper folded over.

It's actually simpler. Arms becoming wings & legs becoming legs? They did that years ago on such low points as Nightscream

[Zippo]

Sorry Swoop - you are staying on the shelf. Love the weapon though. And if I get Snarl. then I might have to get Swoop to round them out.

Sorry, Elite Bee - you look nice in Alt mode but horrible in robot. PASS

[Golden Phoenix]

I don't know. I like Swoop. There is something about the look of the figure that has me. The only thing I don't like is the bakc of the neck in robot mode. But other then that, this figure looks like it has some style, and I'm down with that

[MV75]

It's actually simpler. Arms becoming wings & legs becoming legs? They did that years ago on such low points as Nightscream

Ah, so you prefer things like grimlock. Stands on his arse and punches with his feet.

I'll be getting swoop, and the other dinos. Those are the only "sub team" I'll fully collect.
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[dirge]

Ah, so you prefer things like grimlock. Stands on his arse and punches with his feet.

Hey it beats a overly simple limb shift. At least he transforms rather than just crouches down with his arms lifting up as wings.

I'm sorry but I grew tired of TFs whose limbs simply become the limbs in alt mode... back in the BM period. I'd have thought Hasbro would have thought of something creative for Swoop rather than gone down this downright lazy path again

[MV75]

Hey it beats a overly simple limb shift. At least he transforms rather than just crouches down with his arms lifting up as wings.

I'm sorry but I grew tired of TFs whose limbs simply become the limbs in alt mode... back in the BM period. I'd have thought Hasbro would have thought of something creative for Swoop rather than gone down this downright lazy path again

I see where you're coming from, but how else could they do it? They'd end up like starscream and have too much undercarriage. Unless you went the shell former route. Pretty much all the bird transformers have done this style of limbs -> limbs.

I suppose they could have an auto morph feature where the arms are ejected from the sides of the main body.......
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[dirge]

Well, Transmetal Airazor hid her legs (and torso) within the bird's back. BM Buzzsaw managed decent wings out of his legs. BW Silverbolt (Magnaboss) manages to hide his arms within the tail.

This is what the toy designers are paid to do - find clever ways to conceal stuff like limbs inside the alt mode.

I'd rather a little bit of undercarriage and something creative in the transformation that the lazy effort on Swoop.

I'm not _against_ limbs becoming limbs as such, but I do want to see something clever in the way they're integrated into the beast mode, as is the case with Animated BA's legs. I don't look at the rear legs in spider mode and immediately think "they're the damn robot legs!". There's an inevitability about her spider legs becoming limbs in robot mode, but the designer has made sure they feel right in both modes.

Swoop's legs barely change between modes and the arms sitting awkwardly on the edges of his wings is just plain lazy, and we saw that too many times in BM (and later BW, actually), in the Aaron Archer designed beast modes.

[The_Damned]

man they look both look awesome BB is an awesome mold so will be getting a repaint of that and so swoop is very cool both of these will be on my to get list.

[jaydisc]

I'm liking the Elite Guard BB because of my dislike of the translucent-ish-ness of the yellow plastic on the current BB, but the black head looks weird. Might grab Elite Guard and just do a head transfer.