Hasbro presentation panel at NYCC (2013 line-up)

[SofaMan]

I'm liking the look of these. They seem to be making use of the Arms Micron idea from the Japanese Prime series with the weapon/animals. And Twinstrike/Sinnertwin for the win! Why they couldn't have stuck with Sinnertwin I don't know; I thought that was one of the most appropriate and creative names of any G1 toy.

[SuspectimusPrime]

Tweet from TFCC with in-hand pics of FSS Breakdown and Jackpot. Guess the first shipment's not much of a surprise.

[Shirokaze]

So they're pretty much re-releasing the first wave of prime toys with spikes and guns.... the same first wave that is currently warming the shelves of every single toy retailer in the country? There's obviously some retardation going on in the upper ranks of Hasbro.

I just hope Hurtsi is right, and that we don't see any of these figures in Oz, because it will save the brand the embarrassment at the very least.

On a positive note, I will import an Omega and Predaking!

[kup]

So they're pretty much re-releasing the first wave of prime toys with spikes and guns.... the same first wave that is currently warming the shelves of every single toy retailer in the country? There's obviously some retardation going on in the upper ranks of Hasbro.

I just hope Hurtsi is right, and that we don't see any of these figures in Oz, because it will save the brand the embarrassment at the very least.

On a positive note, I will import an Omega and Predaking!

I hope we don't see them here because if we do, they will shelf warm and make the stores even more reluctant to stock anything Transformers even if it is a superior follow up line.

Why does Hasbro do this? They have already identified what works and doesn't work but still have a tendency to push what clearly does not and ignore what does.

[Tober]

Shelf-warming isn't really Hasbro's fault. They supply the toys to the big distributors in the volume they request.

So blame TRU for not enough Masterpiece Primes and too many Masterpiece Rodimuses... Blame Target for not enough 2007 Camaro Bumblebees and too many 2012 Camaro Bumblebees...

It's actually difficult for distributors to determine what will sell and what won't as advertising and promotion from upcoming movies and TV shows has a large impact.

[liegeprime]

Im getting Omega!!! As well as all those dragonformers.... love tyhe beast modes... they'll prolly stay that way in my collection display hehehe... oh wait, Ive run out of space .. again


hmmm they're bringing back Fatimus Prime again???!? ugh!

[GoktimusPrime]

Shelf-warming isn't really Hasbro's fault.

It depends. Sometimes it's the retailers (as in the examples you mentioned), but other times Hasbro can make poor choices like:
+ releasing slews of Bumblebees instead of new characters like Deluxe Leadfoot, Soundwave, Quejack, Mirage etc.
+ releasing toys that are expensive and not very fun to play (i.e. poor value for money) with, e.g. Combiner Class Devastator
I've spoken to someone from Hasbro AU (IRL, not over the phone) about this and he agreed with me (it's not Hasbro AU's fault of course - these decisions are made by Hasbro USA).

I'm not saying it's always Hasbro's fault, but it's not always the retailers' fault either. Other times, it's partially Hasbro and the retailers' fault, and sometimes it's neither. As you said, sometimes these things are just hard to predict. So I'm inclined to agree w/ both you and kup -- it all just depends.

[Tober]

Sure Hasbro have made some dumb decisions. My point was that that's not where the story ends.

Right now we have shelves stacked with TF: Prime Wheeljack, Soundwave, Cliffjumper, and Bumblebee. WJ and SW are great, CJ is good and BB is okay.

So we can kick retailers for overstocking, Hasbro for not releasing the First Edition line, and network television for not airing it.

[1AZRAEL1]

Loving Omega, can't wait to get him.

[Megatron]

Omega looks really impressive. But I'll just be getting the Soundwave!