Which is your favorite Springer figure?

[The Scream Man]

The new Voyager one, hands down. not only is it the best Springer mold ever made, i rank it as one of the best Transformers. It's just a fabulous toy, and well worth every cent you'll pay for it.

[billygoat]

I have a soft spot for G1 Springer. As a kid, one of my friends had him and I never did and I was mondo jealous because I liked the toy so much.

That said, the new "IDW" version does look superb. So whilst I wouldn't be able to make a final call until mine arrives, I'd have to go with "bishounen" Generations Springer as the best of the bunch to my eyes.

[Gasaraki]

There was also a little DOTM Springer with a helicopter mode and for some damn reason it got it's own Robot Heroes homage as well

ROTF actually, and no kidding it got a Robot Heroes for no apparent reason! I did mention in earlier post above that I didn't know about this guy... and whether I would've counted him in even if I did...

Unless this poll is only including toys that represent G1 Springer. But then what about the Kre-O? Unless you don't consider Kre-O to be proper TF action figures.

Oh you mean this guy??

Well, that's what I get for relying on TFWiki.net... they didn't have a pic in there so I thought he wasn't a released figure.

Are Kre-O toys transforming toys? I haven't looked, but there's probably already a long thread about this, arguments done and dusted, two opposing camps hold to their valid opinions, etc. Personally, I think the block models transform as much as a Lego model can be 'transformed' from a crane to a car to a plane for example. Haven't thought about it much, but that's probably why I have instinctively chosen not to go for what I consider non-transforming toys (includes Kre-O, and definitely stuff like Robot Heroes). But you might ask me what about stuff like PE Motobot (Arcee) where you have to reassemble whole parts of the figure? Too much for one thread to handle...

Now... the mini-figure Kreons are an interesting category. They do kind-of transform, so I guess I should've included this guy. If you would have voted him your favorite Springer, let us know!

For the next 'can of worms', what about this guy:

Really getting a bit tongue-in-cheek here... looks to me like some people have fairly strict views about 3rd party products. Should they be included in polls like this? Should we even buy them? Can we consider that something like Warbot is our favorite representation of Springer? Once again, there's probably already a thread about this...

Personally, many of my favorite stuff are 3rd party - for example, I think the best Insecticon representations out there are the FP ones.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying some of this discussion... it's such a great media to be a fan of!

[kup]

Really getting a bit tongue-in-cheek here... looks to me like some people have fairly strict views about 3rd party products. Should they be included in polls like this? Should we even buy them? Can we consider that something like Warbot is our favorite representation of Springer? Once again, there's probably already a thread about this...

Personally, many of my favorite stuff are 3rd party - for example, I think the best Insecticon representations out there are the FP ones.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying some of this discussion... it's such a great media to be a fan of!

I am more of a fan of good toys than brands so I will go with whoever makes me the best representation of the character. Defender is now fairly old (2009?) and at the time it was the best modern 'representation' of a triple changing Springer, specially after Hasbro's panel comment that the Universe and Botcon repaints were enough.

At this point my favorite representation of Springer is Defender since I am yet to see the IDW Springer in person. However I won't vote until I try the IDW Springer for myself and if popular accounts hold true, it may be the one I vote for when the time comes.

It is good to see Hasbro getting their act together as of late. The fact that we are having this discussion is refreshing because it means they have are making something worthy enough to discuss and compare.

[BigTransformerTrev]

ROTF actually, and no kidding it got a Robot Heroes for no apparent reason!

What did I say? DOTM? Why the slag did I say that? Robot Heroes wern't even being released anymore at that point! Put it down to a head cold

[GoktimusPrime]

Are Kre-O toys transforming toys? I haven't looked, but there's probably already a long thread about this, arguments done and dusted, two opposing camps hold to their valid opinions, etc. Personally, I think the block models transform as much as a Lego model can be 'transformed' from a crane to a car to a plane for example. Haven't thought about it much, but that's probably why I have instinctively chosen not to go for what I consider non-transforming toys (includes Kre-O, and definitely stuff like Robot Heroes). But you might ask me what about stuff like PE Motobot (Arcee) where you have to reassemble whole parts of the figure? Too much for one thread to handle...

Now... the mini-figure Kreons are an interesting category. They do kind-of transform, so I guess I should've included this guy. If you would have voted him your favorite Springer, let us know!

Dude, it's your thread, so it's entirely up to you whether or not you wanna include those kinds of toys or not.

If you're interested in what the general consensus is, I can tell you that under the UCM these kinds of figures don't count. That's what people voted on. But this isn't a UCM thread, it's your thread -- so for the purposes of this thread it's entirely up to you what you want to count or not.

For the next 'can of worms', what about this guy:

Really getting a bit tongue-in-cheek here... looks to me like some people have fairly strict views about 3rd party products. Should they be included in polls like this? Should we even buy them? Can we consider that something like Warbot is our favorite representation of Springer? Once again, there's probably already a thread about this...

Personally, many of my favorite stuff are 3rd party - for example, I think the best Insecticon representations out there are the FP ones.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying some of this discussion... it's such a great media to be a fan of!

Again, it's up to you.

The UCM wouldn't count it, and I personally wouldn't either... but as I said, this isn't a UCM thread (unless you want it to be), and it's not my thread. I can offer opinions, but I'm not going to prescribe what you should do or how you should think.

If you wanna count Kre-Os, Legos and 3rd party stuff, then do it. You're the author of this thread/discussion, so you can establish whatever rules you want for your poll.

[Bidoofdude]

Yeah, it's best representation and IFAIC it's a meant representation of Springer, but each to their own.

[doublespy]

The new Voyager one, hands down. not only is it the best Springer mold ever made, i rank it as one of the best Transformers. It's just a fabulous toy, and well worth every cent you'll pay for it.

+1
I can not agree more. Probably one of best the mass market TF toys of all time.

It is good to see Hasbro getting their act together as of late. The fact that we are having this discussion is refreshing because it means they have are making something worthy enough to discuss and compare.

Agreed. <Hasbro strikes back>

[kup]

Dude, it's your thread, so it's entirely up to you whether or not you wanna include those kinds of toys or not.

If you're interested in what the general consensus is, I can tell you that under the UCM these kinds of figures don't count. That's what people voted on. But this isn't a UCM thread, it's your thread -- so for the purposes of this thread it's entirely up to you what you want to count or not.


Again, it's up to you.

The UCM wouldn't count it, and I personally wouldn't either... but as I said, this isn't a UCM thread (unless you want it to be), and it's not my thread. I can offer opinions, but I'm not going to prescribe what you should do or how you should think.

If you wanna count Kre-Os, Legos and 3rd party stuff, then do it. You're the author of this thread/discussion, so you can establish whatever rules you want for your poll.

The UCM, no offense Gok but I think you are the only one that uses or mentions it so adamantly. I understand the reason for it and it serves a purpose but outside of the 'yearly stat count' everyone just does whatever whether it conforms to the UCM or not, you seem to be the only one that follows it religiously.

If this thread isn't about the UCM, I am not sure why you brought it up.

[Gasaraki]

If you're interested in what the general consensus is, I can tell you that under the UCM these kinds of figures don't count. That's what people voted on. But this isn't a UCM thread, it's your thread -- so for the purposes of this thread it's entirely up to you what you want to count or not.

If you wanna count Kre-Os, Legos and 3rd party stuff, then do it. You're the author of this thread/discussion, so you can establish whatever rules you want for your poll.

Thanks... I understand. NO ROBOT HEROES OR LEGO then!!

I appreciate the insight on the UCM (which until tonight I didn't know of), although like Kup, I'd lean toward doing whatever in a sense. Guess it's there for standardization - I understand not including 3rd party stuff under that system, but it's interesting that people voted on not counting official licensed stuff like the Kre-O products (?).

Anyway, my ramblings was mainly because I wasn't impressed at myself for not knowing about the Kreon Springer. And then I got side-tracked... but at least it's fascinating side-tracks... I hope!