Toy Review - Transformers Platinum Edition Omega Supreme

[drifand]

By the way, I look at first MP1 Optimus is for me still what I enjoy over the smaller MP Optimus. I just hated Takara for screwing around with the scale, on top of that there hasn't been a smaller sized Megatron.

[GoktimusPrime]

Hey I get it, you don't want simple transformation. I have a lot of old power rangers by far has more thought in Engineering than today's toys.

I don't mind simple transformations. I quite like "flipchangers" like the original Terrorsaur, Rattrap and the Basic Machine Wars figures. But these were $7 Basics. My issue is that for a toy of Omega Supreme's size and price I would expect _much_ more than just a split-it-up-and-you're-basically-done transformation. There are Mini-Cons who have more involved transformations than Omega Supreme!

But if I were to take a pick, G1 Omega or this YOTS Omega, my choice is this over the G1. Being said, it was a choice very easy for me because one of them is too expensive the other is dated. And I do not have any of them, hence why I picked YOTS Omega. Let a kid today pick the toy and see if he picks the G1 or YOTS at the same price.

You're looking G1 Omega Supreme out of context, which as I mentioned before is something I think ought to be avoided when looking at vintage toys. Omega Supreme came out in 1985 and thus we should look at him by 1980s standards.

Having said that, would a kid today pick G1 or YotS Omega Supreme? Actually I think there's a fair chance they might still pick G1 because the child would be looking at one toy with a very simple transformation with a really basic alt mode, versus a toy with a weird pull apart and reassemble transformation, but can walk in robot mode and drives around in tank mode. G1 Omega Supreme still arguably offers more play value than YotS Omega Supreme in that sense. If a child (or adult) is looking for greater posability in robot mode, then sure, they'd be more likely to pick YotS Omega Supreme. I'd say older kids would be more likely to do that, but younger kids might be more drawn toward G1. I might show both to my daughter (she's a preschooler) and see which one she picks (I won't influence her). Should be a fun experiment.

Until Takara come out with their new Omega, I think I am overall happy with this. Yes I agree, it lacks the seriousness in terms when you compare to a MP series. The darker red would have made it better, a lot of minor things can do it up. I found myself playing with this like some 12 year old lucky kid who had the luxury of playing with it. A battleship and a cool train. I am not looking at it as an adult, like said, if this was going to be a 30 steps transforming toy it wouldn't be $98.00 it would reach further into over $150 easily.

I didn't necessarily mean to say that he should be on par with the complexity of MPs; that wouldn't be very fun for kids. But something more along the lines of Air Attack Optimus Primal, Unicron or Primus -- big toys that were also aimed at kids. They're not just big, but fun. Children aren't stupid; they won't go for a big simplistic toy that doesn't appear to be much fun.

Remember that Energon Omega Supreme was a shelfwarmer. YotS Omega Supreme's sold quickly because it was in limited quantities and exclusively sold at Big W; and that's fine. Revenge of the Fallen Combiner Class Devastator was another massive shelfwarmer, as was the big super-sized Cybertron Starscream. These were all toys that were marketed directly at kids and sold at regular mass retail. Adult fans alone cannot absorb enough of these toys to make it viable as a product. Encore Fortress Maximus has reportedly sold well, but remember that Japanese reissues are produced in much more limited quantities than regular Transformers that are marketed at kids. Having said that, Encore Omega Supreme was a horrific shelfwarmer (though being released around the time of the Global Financial Crisis probably didn't help).

I think the main issue is you have the G1 and you appreciate it for what it is, whereas I wasn't into the G1 even when it reissued I had looked at it again and again and I felt its not the character I know in the cartoon.

I collected G1 in the 1980s and 90s. And as I said before, even if you didn't, I think it still makes sense to at least look at G1 toys in context of the time they came out. To compare a G1 toy by today's standards would be like taking a muscle car manufactured in the 1960s or 70s and saying it's crap compared to muscle cars today. It may be, but it was probably pretty awesome for it's time, as I'm sure vintage car enthusiasts would appreciate.

I know that G1 toys mostly don't stand up to today's standards. That's why I don't collect G1 anymore and I wouldn't personally recommend anyone start now (unless they grew up w/ it). The character in the cartoon is based on the G1 toy, the toys came first and is thus more "accurate" than the cartoon.

By the way, I look at first MP1 Optimus is for me still what I enjoy over the smaller MP Optimus. I just hated Takara for screwing around with the scale, on top of that there hasn't been a smaller sized Megatron.

I agree. I mostly got MP10 for the trailer, Roller and Spike. But MP10 does have some nice things about it, but overall MP01 is a better made toy. MP10 is a LOT easier to transform though.

[drifand]

I would say that you would rate this toy a 5.5-6/10, for me is a 7/10.
No, I am not screaming BUY it. But overall it was pleasing to own one.
I was very excited about Project X Omega Supreme, but for that price, I expected way more and its arms got me concerned.

I am hoping Takara would do a new G1 Omega supreme.

As for MP10, the hands are better, I wouldn't mind if I found this piece under $100. (I know a joke) I am just annoyed they suddenly change scale, and for that I avoided it. I have not bought any of the current mp cars either. If any Jazz might be the only one I be interested. (obtaining Porsche rights might be an issue)

Overall I would not really consider myself a Transformer collector as I collected Binaltech/Alternators because the cars are real and the robot form is great. For me posing a robot is important, this is part of engineering I look at not just the transformation. Thus why I like Gundam toys which are not cheap, if I wanted Statue, I go for their kits. The mp toys have gained my interests soley because they improved the mechanics and posing of the figure is definately better. Face it, remaking prime with straight arms and legs or making a bigger G1 Optimus will not gain my attention at all, same with the Titans Metroplex, I would avoid if that was the case.

[drifand]

Wow I don't see YOTS Omega on BigW catlogue or online, I think its totally sold out.

It was pure fluke I went to BigW online and found it. The price caught me because on ebay it goes as high as $200

[GoktimusPrime]

As for MP10, the hands are better, I wouldn't mind if I found this piece under $100. (I know a joke) I am just annoyed they suddenly change scale, and for that I avoided it. I have not bought any of the current mp cars either. If any Jazz might be the only one I be interested. (obtaining Porsche rights might be an issue)

I don't mind the change of scale... what irritates me is how the toys got smaller but the prices didn't really get much cheaper. I find none of the new-scale TakaraTOMY MPs are worth paying full retail for. I either buy TakaraTOMY MPs at below RRP (i.e. preorder discount) or just wait for the Hasbro version which works out cheaper. Though I kinda regret preordering Sunstorm because that toy did not sell well and Amazon later slashed prices down heaps. Damn my lack of clairvoyance!

Overall I would not really consider myself a Transformer collector as I collected Binaltech/Alternators because the cars are real and the robot form is great. For me posing a robot is important, this is part of engineering I look at not just the transformation. Thus why I like Gundam toys which are not cheap, if I wanted Statue, I go for their kits. The mp toys have gained my interests soley because they improved the mechanics and posing of the figure is definately better. Face it, remaking prime with straight arms and legs or making a bigger G1 Optimus will not gain my attention at all, same with the Titans Metroplex, I would avoid if that was the case.

The reason why I personally don't like Gundams and other PlaModel kits is because while they are highly detailed and super posable, I find that they're just not fun toys to play with. The quality of plastic often doesn't withstand rigorous toy play when you make them melee fight with each other etc. But of course, Gundams are model kits, not action figures. They're designed for displaying and posing (which statues can't do), but I don't find them terribly good for playing with.

But Transformers aren't model kits, they're toys; action figures. Their primary purpose is to be fun play things, not just pretty posable display pieces. And as such I personally think it's important that this is kept in mind when appraising Transformer toys; not only looking at them as posable display pieces, but being mindful that these are meant to be fun play things too. I still actively play with my toys -- make them fight, do the voices, do the sound effects etc. That's what Transformer toys are meant for.

MP Lambor is a very pretty and posable display piece, but I quite dislike him as a toy because I just find him really not fun to play with. The shoulders lock on fine for display posing, but when you make him fight or do other action movements in "real time," I find that his shoulders keep popping out really easily. For that reason I didn't bother with the other redecos of this mould.

[drifand]

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The reason why I personally don't like Gundams and other PlaModel kits is because while they are highly detailed and super posable, I find that they're just not fun toys to play with. The quality of plastic often doesn't withstand rigorous toy play when you make them melee fight with each other etc. But of course, Gundams are model kits, not action figures. They're designed for displaying and posing (which statues can't do), but I don't find them terribly good for playing with.

There are Gundam Toys, however they are not cheap, and there is for rough playing as well. But overall saying that, it is not a transformer.

I am only observing by the side line on the mp figures, in due respect, due to the high detail it is also not as what I would specify as rigorous play either. I still remembered my old G1 broke of the roof of a silverstreak.

Collectors come from all sorts, and it is definitely subjective to each individual on why he would want it more than another person. There are people who just keep them MIB regardless how much we rave about the transformation.

For me it is a selective bunch of Transformers and characters I would look and think about it before buying. Omega Energon did not do enough to push me to buy it unfortunately and it was a close one, I did think about getting it a few years back but then just let go. In the end this version came and its a bonus that is cheaper here than on ebay.