TF Beast Hunters episode 11 - Persuasion

[SMHFConvoy]

Like hand drawn animation, CG is time consuming and labour intensive, so like with ultra magnus the animators used what they had on hand for the pilots but the air force hovering there? That was weird.

Just remember, money and time is what separates TV production from film production.

[GoktimusPrime]

yeah I know, but it still looks weird! Explains why all the MECH grunts wear gimp suits -- justifies making them all look the same. I noticed that all the soldiers are basically the same soldier we see in previous episodes too (Clone Wars'd!). They probably should've stuck a visor on the helmet instead of allowing the face to be exposed. Although in this episode I noticed that they intentionally avoided showing any of their faces. Heh... kinda reminds me of old school cel animated cartoons where all the background mooks are drawn the same (as wonderfully parodied in "Gekiganger 3" (@ 0:50 ) ).

[i_amtrunks]

I felt this episode lagged and dragged. Ratchet is my favourite character on this show because he is a cookie cut out good guy. We all knew his decision before the options were given. Why spend so long showing off all the unrelated Decepticon tech to convince him? I did like the transparency in his dealings with Megatron and he fact he didnt try and talk his way into it (saying to himself he'll survive, escape etc), that he knows he is doing this then dying.

Animation was below par. Glad this show is nearly over and we can move onto a show with a better animation style rather than this empty world stuff.

So the next two episodes are Ratchet fixing synth-en and a big battle before the movie sees the final defeat of Megatron and the Decpeticons. A big task seeing what he has survived so far.

[liegeprime]

it was funny seeing UM and Shocky fight. The battle of the one fisted bots heheheh. Heh, Also glad to see they couldn't shy away from making Wheeljack a tech geek still, just like the old G1 guy was.

You know after all this episodes, I now find the addition of Beast Hunters to the main title unnecessary. After all, the only Beast weve seen additional is Predaking.... the predacon revival at best isn't the main plot but more of just a story arc divided into episodes. But seeing that the direction of the story now is still a continuation of what has been a long arching story - restoration of a fallen Cybertron, well... it's just unnecessary. I guess it's to promote the toys ( isn't all this always anyways hahaha) but yeah Im glad in a way that the storyline isn't constricted by the Hasbro powers that be in being just such - a toy promotion show

[lancalot]

love the way Megatron is portray in this episode ...a true leader ...how he got alot going on and more important things to worry about then how to just kill the autobots ...where as the autobot go nothing to do but just wait around for the decepticon to show up??....... And i didn't know how big he was until you see him next to a tiny ratchet ...

[Gasaraki]

For me, it's been a long time since an episode hit the spot as much as this one... very satisfying storytelling and CHARACTER portrayals! I do agree it's still somewhat slow at times, but it does feel like it's building nicely toward the endgame.

Stuff I liked:
- A couple of memorable lines:
--- Megatron saying 'dearest Ratchet', oooh that made my hair stand :P
--- '... stuck in Knockout's trunk WITH YOUR MOM!' ... what tha!??
- I gotta get my hands on Raf's computer... he's rigged it to interface with Cybertronian tech! Plus got the right font(s) to go with it! Man!
- That music when Ratchet was shown the Nemesis' bridge really sounded like it came straight from Star Wars!
- Yep, also loved the way Megatron just deals out the truth and doesn't bother to hide any motive, seeing he's already predicted Ratchet's response.
- The suggestion of a follow-up series with Fowler's comment to Jack about his future - Agent Darby! The numerous toy characters also support this hint I think.

Why didn't they finish off the humans then land to search for remains? (they did so after destroying the first Autobot base after all). But then again, the last operation was directly supervised by Megatron, whereas this time he left it to Starscream who may have been too arrogant to second think it or even bother with a post-battle inspection. Starscream's like Doctor Evil, just walk away confident that your enemies are dead... he needs the equivalent of Scott Evil to just roll his eyes and mutter, "Idiot."

Yes, and what is it with identifying the building based on the 'E'!?!? There were 5 hangers there, and the configuration itself should've indicated something was off, not to mention Soundwave and Laserbeak had come from there... you'd think that hyper-advanced robotic beings would have something akin to GPS to confirm! This was lazy story boarding... Fowler goes out of the way to point that that the 'cons now know the location of the base... so how should they solve the problem? Paint out the E!! Wow, this was pathetic... must've been too costly to move (both for the Autobots/humans as well as the producers!).

love the way Megatron is portray in this episode ...a true leader ...how he got alot going on and more important things to worry about then how to just kill the autobots ...where as the autobot go nothing to do but just wait around for the decepticon to show up??....... And i didn't know how big he was until you see him next to a tiny ratchet ...

Definitely the best part of the episode for me as well... this is the vintage Megatron that I love and is all too often missing (and I mean in multiple continuities here). Here he is the thinking intelligent Megatron, who is also seductively charismatic. And best of all, morally complex... it wasn't simply the evil want-to-destroy-all bad guy.

[BigTransformerTrev]

love the way Megatron is portray in this episode ...a true leader ...how he got alot going on and more important things to worry about then how to just kill the autobots ...where as the autobot go nothing to do but just wait around for the decepticon to show up??....... And i didn't know how big he was until you see him next to a tiny ratchet ...

... this is the vintage Megatron that I love and is all too often missing (and I mean in multiple continuities here). Here he is the thinking intelligent Megatron, who is also seductively charismatic. And best of all, morally complex... it wasn't simply the evil want-to-destroy-all bad guy.

It's just like the 'Spotlight: Megatron" that came out a few months ago. It shows WHY this guy is the leader of an intergalactic army, rather than simply because he is the toughest. Meg's definetly the highlight for me in this episode.

This episode also confirmed for me what I said in my brief comment in the review thread for the previous episode - looks like a denumont on Cybertron is about to be upon us (I hope!).