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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
    Problem with that comment is that it is short shifted and shows a complete lack of understanding of the manufacturing process. Going from the comments of people in the know on this project, it was well underway and significant capital had been invested prior to he announcement of the official MP. So they were, more than likely, committed. And changing scale isn't as simple as entitled fanbois like to believe. You basically have to start from scratch and do a complete redesign.

    Yes a classics scale Magnus would have been better. Maybe they did think they could compete with an official MP. Maybe they are boneheads. But to call them so without having a clue as to their reasoning? Yeah. That's awesome
    reminds me of that MP scale Soundwave right before the official one.

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    This would rock if it were classics scaled. Still suspect on quality but it does look good design and sculpt wise.

    Also an interesting un-magnus like bio with the selling of carcasses and stuff.

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    That looks truly amazing. But a KFC number plate looks so odd

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    Wow, they are making it really hard to pass on this

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    It's not terrible but those obvious hinges on the sides of his chest and the visible screw holes on his shoulders make it difficult for me to class this as Masterpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
    Problem with that comment is that it is short shifted and shows a complete lack of understanding of the manufacturing process. Going from the comments of people in the know on this project, it was well underway and significant capital had been invested prior to he announcement of the official MP. So they were, more than likely, committed. And changing scale isn't as simple as entitled fanbois like to believe. You basically have to start from scratch and do a complete redesign.

    Yes a classics scale Magnus would have been better. Maybe they did think they could compete with an official MP. Maybe they are boneheads. But to call them so without having a clue as to their reasoning? Yeah. That's awesome
    I do not want to put words into MrBlud's mouth but my interpretation and support of his "boneheaded" remark follows.

    It was heavily rumoured (even by Takara) for about 3-ish years that a Takara Ultra Magnus Masterpiece release is coming and Takara is rumoured to have many figures in advanced stages of design. The scuttling of an unofficial Soundwave by MP-13 seem to support this and "insiders" were left red-faced when their upcoming predictions were wrong. So to spend so much on making an unofficial Masterpiece of a popular character and give Takara fair warning by announcing it (especially after what MP-13 did) is a very big gamble.

    Also, unlike the unofficial Soundwave this KFC release does not have the look of a Masterpiece. So apart from continuing this risky venture where Takara may announce or even release a figure before you, if an official figure comes out yours will automatically be the loser in many peoples eyes.

    Seeing a potential market is not as important in business as seeing things objectively, cutting your loses and changing tack salvaging what you can. I would call KFC's pursuit of this stubborn and naive but I guess we will see how it sells - and technically the official one could still be a disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    This would rock if it were classics scaled. Still suspect on quality but it does look good design and sculpt wise.

    Also an interesting un-magnus like bio with the selling of carcasses and stuff.
    Funny thing is though is that if you want it to be able to carry classics cars then it is correctly scaled. Using Drift as an example, his alt mode is the same size as the Sideswipe mould. But then, as we can see, it makes the bot mode huge.




    Quote Originally Posted by Deonasis View Post
    I do not want to put words into MrBlud's mouth but my interpretation and support of his "boneheaded" remark follows.

    It was heavily rumoured (even by Takara) for about 3-ish years that a Takara Ultra Magnus Masterpiece release is coming and Takara is rumoured to have many figures in advanced stages of design. The scuttling of an unofficial Soundwave by MP-13 seem to support this and "insiders" were left red-faced when their upcoming predictions were wrong. So to spend so much on making an unofficial Masterpiece of a popular character and give Takara fair warning by announcing it (especially after what MP-13 did) is a very big gamble.

    Also, unlike the unofficial Soundwave this KFC release does not have the look of a Masterpiece. So apart from continuing this risky venture where Takara may announce or even release a figure before you, if an official figure comes out yours will automatically be the loser in many peoples eyes.

    Seeing a potential market is not as important in business as seeing things objectively, cutting your loses and changing tack salvaging what you can. I would call KFC's pursuit of this stubborn and naive but I guess we will see how it sells - and technically the official one could still be a disaster.
    Wasn't MP Soundwave a complete surprise? I don't remember any rumours leading up to that announcement because everyone was excited for Acousticwave. And besides, rumours are just that. I mean, there are rumours going around that we are going to get an MP Combiner all because Hasui said that he'd like to make Bruticus. That in no way translates to "It's in the pipeline" so to speak. There are also rumours of MP Galvatron, all because we got MP Rodimus. Rumours of V2 Megs since MP-10. I'm not saying that none of these are not happening, just that these so called "rumours" are nothing but fandom speculation reached from looking at past releases and trying to wrangle meaning out of what is said in the media/interviews. How long ago was it a fairly solid rumour that we'd never get an MP Bumblebee?

    Anyway, obviously KFC thought that it was worth the risk given the odds. And they were wrong. But my original point was that calling em boneheads for not cancelling a project that they had already invested significant time and money into, means that he doesn't understand the process. I bet his attitude would be different if it was his money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
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    Wasn't MP Soundwave a complete surprise? I don't remember any rumours leading up to that announcement because everyone was excited for Acousticwave.
    Yes, MP Soundwave was a complete surprise to folks in the know which is the scary thing for 3rd party MPs. That surprise and the lengthy development a MP needs, all give weight to the idea that Soundwave was mostly ready for production and was purposely bumped up the release schedule to compete with Acousticwave at release and MP Soundwave totally sunk Acousticwave. Even though Acousticwave backed out very late before production began it probably saved them more money than if they had fought the official release.

    So how many more official MPs sit at this advanced design stage? And why Quakewave and Hexitron (to a lesser extent) was not a victim of the same tactic? Maybe some 3rd party groups get better inside information than others?
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