I am pretty certain they are high end knock offs.. But apparently the toy quality is pretty much the same but with minor/major differences.. When you apparently put them side by side only a couple of differences can be spotted.. I would love to have a G1 combiner team again (got Predaking & Seacons on the way thanks to SB).. I know all of you & I am too, not very impressed that these items can be found for sale & at similar prices to the real thing e.g. "Devastator Encore", but the rest of the public do not know & are buying these & not getting what they paid.for knowingly... I keep second thinking to myself whether to purchase them myself because I know they're KO, but owning a pretty much brand new Superion, Menasor, & Devastator, these days for 90$ is very tempting.. Especially if you have to look twice & have the knowledge to identify that they are not the real thing.. I am not encouraging anyone to buy them.. I myself am still looking around for the genuine articles to buy, but there doesn't seem to be anything, especially around that price range.. Even second hand ones that are complete..