D'oh! Seized by Customs!

[roller]

ive been thinking of applying for a job at customs

maybe i could smuggle the mp05s out of the office But i doubt i could hide it in my pants, unlike that G2 colourchange Autobot

[Mixmaster]

There's plenty illegal about trafficking replica firearms to prohibited states. It carries the same penalties too.

I understand the frustration, but I do believe the police have ingrained this sense of defeat in peoples heads. I don't mean to be rude by saying that. The police will never consider a convoy of BigW, TRU, Toyworld or Target trucks carrying cap pistols across state borders as firearm traffickers.

I would be very interested at this point to see the NSW and VIC gun legislations and where replica firearms fit into this. Honestly I only concentrated on SA laws, so I am unfamiliar with the other states but if someone can direct me that would be good. It's worth a shot I guess.

[GoktimusPrime]

Under NSW law we need to acquire a P638 Prohibited Weapons Permit. For more information click here.

[Tiby]

Thanks Gok. You beat me to it.

[dirge]

The police will never consider a convoy of BigW, TRU, Toyworld or Target trucks carrying cap pistols across state borders as firearm traffickers.

True, but those stores will be buying cr4ppy cheap toys with orange caps that can't be removed. Encore Megatron & MP-05 are quality with a good silver finish. And - vitally - no orange cap.

It's that orange cap which makes all the difference.

[Mixmaster]

True, but those stores will be buying cr4ppy cheap toys with orange caps that can't be removed. Encore Megatron & MP-05 are quality with a good silver finish. And - vitally - no orange cap.

It's that orange cap which makes all the difference.

*sigh* If that was the main issue then we'd have no problem importing the orange tip versions from America. And even with orange tips I've seen some pretty good replicas in TRU and Toyworld lately, M-16's, MP-5's (the machine gun not Megatron), Berretta pistols and revolvers all of which with a lick of paint would look real enough. Some of these revolvers are even die cast.

Hmm, I'm not sure how I am coming across. I certainly don't want to appear to be a know all twat. If I am putting people off I apologise. I'm just one of those people that need to know 'the why and the reasonings' in the law.

Under NSW law we need to acquire a P638 Prohibited Weapons Permit. For more information click here.

That does appear to make things very difficult. The only way to comply would be to obtain a Class H firearms licence since the firearm comes under the heading of which it replicates. Pretty impossible unless you are in security or a police officer. Sports shooters can obtain them as well so if people don't mind joining the SSAA and going to a firing range six times a year...shrug. It's rediculous I know.
There is a section about collectors though. There's also that fact that G1 Megatron was banned back in 86, which I didn't realise. It is looking very grim for NSW and all Megatrons.

[Tober]

I'm just one of those people that need to know 'the why and the reasonings' in the law.

This article basically explains the reason why the laws came into effect:

Call for National Replica Gun Controls

[lcz128]

There's also that fact that G1 Megatron was banned back in 86, which I didn't realise. It is looking very grim for NSW and all Megatrons.

Damn,
Didn't know about that! *shock!*

[Mixmaster]

This article basically explains the reason why the laws came into effect:

Call for National Replica Gun Controls

I know the 'why it has happened' but not the 'why it has happoened like this'. I believe WA is setting a good example in this countries affairs and now SA has seem also to have come to the same realisation. If we continue down this path we will end up like China and won't be able to scratch our backsides in public. No offense intended, I'm just using reference to the media blocking, etc. We should not all be treated as criminals and punished as such for the stupid acts of a small few. Get rid of replicas, and by replicas I mean the definition used in the past, that is, metal non firing guns modeled from real firearms. I'm all for that, they can be modified to shoot but laws should not classify what is obviously a plastic toy into that category. This is not America, no offence intended again. We are not overrun by gun carrying gangs in the streets. The police should not be in a mindset of 'shoot to kill' at the first sign of a gun shape, of which the only gun a child would get their hands on these days would be a plastic toy from Toyworld. People get shot by police for carrying mobile phones. This is nonsense. It is the police that need educating, not the public. I remember reading in some legislation somewhere that toys were not supposed to be covered in this new legislation. They could be under the discretion of authorities, but not necessarily. The police can ignore this 'law' if they want. It seems the NSW police are simply choosing not to.

[GoktimusPrime]

Really? I remember Megatron being recalled as early as 1984-85 (different states outlawed them at different times). That toy's been banned since like... forever! Think about it - growing up in the 80s, how many kids did you know who owned a Megatron toy? I knew one kid - and he got it from another state which outlawed the toy after NSW (I think he got it from Melbourne).

When I bought a G1 Megatron toy in the 90s from an online purchase, I specifically asked the seller to send the toy to me in robot mode. When Megatron was reissued in 2001, I had the reissue sent to me in robot mode. Yeah... the G1 Megatron toy's always been prohibited.