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    (O_o) This kid's behaviour is absolutely appalling and as liegeprime said, absolutely irresponsible.

    And you can't blame the police. They were doing their job by responding to a mass disturbance of having some 500 teenagers damaging property. And then to assault police officers just for doing their job?!

    I see two root causes of this problem (and as kup said, is becoming increasingly prevalent in youthes today)...

    1/ Irresponsibility.
    "I was just off my head,'' he said.

    He refused to take responsibility for the damage.

    "It was my party, but it could have been any random person walking down the street,'' he said.
    Kids today are taught from a very young age about their rights and freedoms and they will instantly remind you of their rights and freedoms. The problem is that a lot of problematic kids fail to understand (often because they're not taught it) that with rights and freedoms comes responsibilities. Yes, you have the right to throw a party and have a good time with your mates. But you have the responsibility to ensure that your merry-making is not at the expense or detriment of other people! The moment you start damaging other people's property - that's irresponsible!

    How would you feel if your car was damaged by a group of unknown teenagers who were galavanting down your street? I'd be mighty urinated - which I bet most of his neighbours are feeling right about now.

    But they haven't had a chance to talk to their sociable son, who was still in his party clothes today - unzipped jacket, loud cap and big sun glasses.

    "I haven't really talked to them because every time they try to call, I don't answer,'' Corey told Nine.

    "They'll probably try to kill me.''
    That's irresponsible! Your parents are trying to call you to give you the scolding of your life because you deserve it! That last line shows that he knows that he's in trouble, but is refusing to confront it.

    Rights and freedom gives you great power. And as Spiderman's Uncle Ben taught us, "With great power comes great responsibility."


    Kids will be kids and kids will screw up. Fine. But the difference between a good kid and a bad kid is that the good kid will cop the blame and take responsibility for it.

    And if Corey thinks that his act of defiance is a sign of his "manhood," I think it's the complete opposite. Why would a 'real man' run away from his problem? A 'real man' would cop it sweet. No, this is not a sign of 'manhood' - it is nothing more than cowardice. Just fall on your bloody sword.

    2/ Lack of shame.
    He seems to be revelling in this publicity bringing him widespread notorioty - and this is something which Western society has lost; the distinction between being famous and being notorious. It's as if people no longer care about whether they're receiving public attention for doing something good or bad, just so long as they're getting attention. So essentially this is an extreme mass act of attention-seeking. Good kids seek attention through fame, such as through their academic or sporting achievements. "Look mum, I got straight As in school!" - "Look mum, I got a trophy at the sports carnival!" - good kids actually care about the kind of attention they're getting. They want fame, not shame. Bad kids don't care. They'll take attention any way they can get it. If their parents and teachers are screaming at them, sure, it's bad, but at least they're now the centre of attention.

    Yes, it's pretty sick and twisted, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by liegeprime
    bones have already set - you can't change this kid anymore at his stage - rehab pfffft, i highly doubt that.
    Rehab is possible if he accepts responsibility for what he has done and shown remorse. Right now it's not possible, but maybe later down the track. But yeah, until he starts accepting responsibility for his actions instead of being a coward, rehabilitation will be very difficult (nigh impossible) - and as you said, may possibly lead him in a downward spiral to becoming a criminal in adult life... or just a jerk.

    Quote Originally Posted by liegeprime
    But as he is having the time of his life, and now hes feeling I guess like a celebrity, he just wont quit.
    That's right, because the notorioty he's receiving from all this is making him the centre of attention, making him like a celebrity. And part of this problem is that we actually have celebrities who do this. That's why I was so glad that they actually put Paris Hilton in gaol for that drink-driving incident (although I felt she was let out a bit too early). Celebrities need to be gaoled more frequently for breaking the law, just as any other citizen would. (-_-)
    But you have these craphouse celebrities who revel in notorioty and becoming absolutely terribly role-models - Britney Spears was voted as worst role model for girls by American parents (I think Paris Hilton came in #2).

    Quote Originally Posted by liegeprime
    Lucky he isn't living in my native country,
    Asian kids would be far less likely to do something like this. Not impossible, just less likely. And again, the reason for this comes to two core elements of Asian culture:

    1/ Responsibility
    Some (not all) white kids and even their parents will blame teachers and schools when their child is academically underperforming and/or regularly getting in trouble at school. The typical "bloody teachers," "stupid school" grumble grumble attitude. It's everyone else's fault - but their own!
    If an Asian kid is academically underperforming and/or regularly getting in trouble at school, the parents will tell that child that it is his/her responsibility to do something to change it. They will hire home tutors and/or send the child to after-school/weekend coaching colleges to improve their academic performance; spending their own time and money to do it. In other words, they are taking responsibility. They realise that there's little to be gained by sitting around blaming others - what works is to accept responsibility and then to get off your butt and do something about it! This is a generalisation, but university studies have found that the notion of accepting responsibility is a major contributing factor as to why Asian students tend to outperform non-Asian students academically at school.

    2/ Shame
    If an Asian kid had done this, you know that they would bring shame to themselves and their entire family. Their parents and siblings would lose face and be dishonoured. Most Asian kids would never think about doing something like this because of the very thought of bringing shame to themselves and their family.

    And that's something that Western society appears to be losing - this idea that if you make an ass of yourself that you will bring shame to yourself and embarrass the hell out of your parents and family!

    But this kid is far too selfish to think about how this is making mum and dad feel - and the fact that mum and dad will now be $20,000 out of pocket for it. Mum and dad need to make sure that Corey pays every cent back. After he's $20,000 poorer he might then start to learn about responsibility. (-_-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydisc
    As far as 500 at my next meet, we used to reguarly host 500 people at our Elsternwick Mansion parties [login required: guest/guest]. 2+ sound systems, international talent. Back then, we learned a great tip to actually "register" your party with VIC police. You'd go fill out some paperwork at the station, and they'd give you a "Party Safe" packet which included this great poster that said "This party is registered with the Victoria Police" which we'd hang on the front door. It was awesome because it scared away the dregs. And when the police came, which they inevitably and repeatedly did, they would ask us if everything was OK!!! A little bit of respect goes a long way.
    That's right - and not only respect, but also responsibility. You were considerate enough to notify the police of a very large party and then taking measures to discourage gate-crashers from coming in and interfering with your plans and possibly getting all of you in trouble.
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    AMEN GOK! one thing though ... ... he's already a jerk! Id still reckon a good 2x4 in the ass fifteen times as hard as a muscle builder can will teach him not to do it ever again. hmph he'd better start working his butt off to pay for that $20,000 Id add interest on that , serves him right.
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    Giving a good paddling will hurt him for a few days... making him earn $20,000 which he won't keep (because he's repaying a debt) will hurt him for a lot longer! I would recommend mum and dad...
    a/ Sell off his game consoles, games, computer & trendy clothes as a deposit on the interest on their loan.
    b/ Assuming that he's still a full time student, make sure that he gets a part time job at Woolies or Maccas and ensure that he's spending every free moment outside school working his butt off to repay that debt.

    Owing the community $20,000 will have a whole different meaning for him when he has to be the one to work toward repaying it!

    ...and don't even think about getting that first car until every cent is repaid. Until that happens, this will be his life now...


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    If an Asian kid had done this, you know that they would bring shame to themselves and their entire family. Their parents and siblings would lose face and be dishonoured. Most Asian kids would never think about doing something like this because of the very thought of bringing shame to themselves and their family.

    Oh wow man. You guys are such killjoys.

    Kid was just having a party.
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    Kids today - all rights and no responsibility.

    Have fun by all means, but accept the responsibility as well.
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    This guy has a room temprature I.Q and proves this with his comments on television. I have a 16 year old son and if he caused something like this to happen he would at least be remorseful and apolagetic. Saying that surely the parents must of had some idea of what thier son would behave like without them there. You can't tell me that you can live with someone for 16 years and not have some idea about what type of person they are. The parents have some responsibility for this mess, if they get a $20,000 bill so be it. This party had nothing to do with having a good time because if it did he would have considered other people around him which he was going to effect eg Neighbours and so forth and had enough intelligence to place restrictions and controls in place so that the next morning he wouldn't be looking at a disaster. What am I saying I have already stated earlier what i thought of his intelligence. Most people would have a very low opinion of this idiot, the only people that would agree with him are other 16 year old males that have to much Testosterone and only use the head between thier legs to do all of thier thinking. Everyone is allowed a good time but a little bit of moderation would have gone a long way.

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    only use the head between their legs to do all of their thinking
    Well that's definitely me man. (n.b. spelling mistakes corrected)

    Apart from Jaydisc you guys sound like you all grew up with a very boring social life and a very sheltered and inexperienced homelife.
    You know not everyone considers membership of the chess club the highlight of their youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger View Post
    Well that's definitely me man. (n.b. spelling mistakes corrected)

    Apart from Jaydisc you guys sound like you all grew up with a very boring social life and and a very sheltered and inexperienced homelife.
    You know not everyone considers membership of the chess club the highlight of their youth.
    Actually DD what I was doing in my latter teenage years would most probably give you grey hair but that is not something I discuss. I still did have respect and courtesy in general for the people around me despite my personal antics which seems to be beyond this young guys comprehension.

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    as i'm not old enough to comment on Orion's antics, I know for sure my old man partying days were much worse than mine.

    TDD, all things considered... you don't have to trash other people's livelihood, just so you can have some fun and fame (that you held the biggest party while your parents are away and got on TV)

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    ..or perhaps we did have fun and social lives, but also exercised responsibility. :/ Half the fun of being a uni student was going to some pret-ty cuh-raaaazy parties. But we never detrimentally effected any outsiders.

    At the end of the day, if kids want to be idiots - go nuts. Just so long as it doesn't effect other people. It's not so much the fact that these kids decided to have a big party that we're objecting to... it's the fact that they caused $20,000 in damages to other people's property that we find really objectionable.

    It's all fun and games until something gets broken or someone gets hurt.

    Being a child doesn't mean you can't be responsible. As I said before, that's usually what separates the good kids from the bad kids.

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    Kids today - all rights and no responsibility.

    Have fun by all means, but accept the responsibility as well.
    Amen to that.

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