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    Adzma, yes this is the first time Omega's been reissued.

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    It's also no greater guarantee of any Dinobots being reissued for reasons that I've already outlined on Page 1 of this thread. What it does mean is that there's hope for more non-Takara moulds to be reissued - such as the Deluxe Autobots, Deluxe Insecticons and Shockwave!

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    Shockwave is a bit unlikely as Radioshak still has the license for it I think. But the Deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster and Whirl are possible if Takara sees Market value in them.

    I am personally hoping for Deluxe Insecticons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    It's also no greater guarantee of any Dinobots being reissued for reasons that I've already outlined on Page 1 of this thread.
    Well maybe it will if Takara realise there's great potential in sales, and they could possibly attempt to recreate the moulds, wouldn't be a true reissue per se, but it'd be as close as we could get.

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    Riding on the wake of Sky Lynx and Omega it seems almost any reissue is possible. Personally I'd love to see Shockwave, Trypticon, Scorponok, Bludgeon, Thunderwing, and a bunch of Headmasters & Powermasters! One can dream...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adzma View Post
    Well maybe it will if Takara realise there's great potential in sales, and they could possibly attempt to recreate the moulds, wouldn't be a true reissue per se, but it'd be as close as we could get.
    If they can put a man on the moon....how hard could it be???

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    I remember years ago people saying Megatron wouldn't be reissued because of gun laws. Also, many people said Soundwave would be impossible because the mould was broken. Even 6 months ago Sky Lynx and Omega would've been only a transfan's dream... but look what's happened!

    I guess any character being reissued is "possible"! It just depends on who makes the decisions.

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    a/ Megatron hasn't been reissued in countries where gun laws prohibit it! Those toy-gun laws don't exist in Japan so it's not a problem there. Why do you think we have the MP-05 Megatron Gun Club?

    b/ Soundwave's mould is lost. They had to retool a Soundblaster mould.

    c/ Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme were considered unlikely because Takara didn't own the moulds. TakaraTOMY have since someone acquired the rights to those moulds - possibly because companies like ToyBox were bought out by TOMY, I'm not sure. But it wasn't unreasonable to not expect Takara to reissue toys from moulds that they don't own. Encore Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme technically won't be reissues because these Transformers were never released in Japan during G1!

    Quote Originally Posted by Trailer Park Ninja
    If they can put a man on the moon....how hard could it be???
    Great, as soon as TakaraTOMY gets government funding along the lines of NASA, then we should be seeing those Dinobots rolling in no time flat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adzma
    Well maybe it will if Takara realise there's great potential in sales, and they could possibly attempt to recreate the moulds, wouldn't be a true reissue per se, but it'd be as close as we could get.
    I hate to tell you this, but adult collectors compose a small minority of the Transformers consumer group. The majority of people who buy Transformer toys are children (and of course, adults who buy them for children) and thus adult collector oriented toys like G1 reissues only appeal to a very small and specialised niche market. As a result, Takara produces their reissues in more limited production runs and markets them specifically at adult collectors instead of kids (Ages 15+).

    "But why don't they make them in regular production runs and market them at children too?"
    ...because G1 Transformers suck to kids these days? ;p Oh look, a really non-poseable brick-former that looks cumbersome, cheats by using stickers for details, and is less durable than more recent Transformers!

    But just to give you the benefit of the doubt, Hasbro did do exactly that! They marketed their G1 reissues at kids (Ages 8+) and as a result had to do some nasty modifications to the toys for them to comply with current toy safety standards... missiles were ridiculously lengthened, launchers were neutered and for some reason that nobody can understand, they were stripped of chrome. And remember how these things shelf warmed? Yeah... that sure was fun. Not.

    Re-constructing a mould for Takara is prohibitively expensive. It already cost them a bucket-load of money to re-cast the arms of Optimus Prime from scratch, but a character like Optimus Prime was justified because ... well.. it's Optimus Prime! And even then, look at how many times they've reused that G1 Prime mould again and again and again and again and again to milk as much money back off it! Phwoar!

    And that's just the arms... you're talking about re-constructing the Dinobots from scratch?

    ...I just don't see how that could be economically viable, let alone profitable, for TakaraTOMY. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Re-constructing a mould for Takara is prohibitively expensive. It already cost them a bucket-load of money to re-cast the arms of Optimus Prime from scratch, but a character like Optimus Prime was justified because ... well.. it's Optimus Prime! And even then, look at how many times they've reused that G1 Prime mould again and again and again and again and again to milk as much money back off it! Phwoar!

    And that's just the arms... you're talking about re-constructing the Dinobots from scratch?

    ...I just don't see how that could be economically viable, let alone profitable, for TakaraTOMY. :/
    This keeps getting tossed around like it's fact. Until someone gives me a rational explanation for why this is the case, I'll continue to be skeptical.

    If you look at how easy KOs are getting done, you're essentially saying that Takara is so inefficient that they can't embark on a process that cheap, inferior production plants in China can.

    There's no logic behind it to me. And asking me to believe something that illogical is a tough ask.

    If it is the truth though, I'd love to hear an explanation. It confounds me that it could cost -that- much to simply recast arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    a/ Megatron hasn't been reissued in countries where gun laws prohibit it! Those toy-gun laws don't exist in Japan so it's not a problem there. Why do you think we have the MP-05 Megatron Gun Club?
    That's not what I mean - I'm saying he has been released regardless of what country we're talking about! (it's perfectly legal to import reissue Megs but not MP Megs - but that's another issue! ) So my point still stands... People said Megatron wouldn't be reissued... He was! They said Soundwave wouldn't be reissued... He was! They said Omega would NEVER be reissued... He is! People also say Shockwave and Grimlock won't be reissued... let's wait and see


    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Encore Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme technically won't be reissues because these Transformers were never released in Japan during G1!
    Then why are they part of the "ENCORE" line?


    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    G1 Transformers suck to kids these days? ;p Oh look, a really non-poseable brick-former that looks cumbersome, cheats by using stickers for details, and is less durable than more recent Transformers!
    I agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Re-constructing a mould for Takara is prohibitively expensive. It already cost them a bucket-load of money to re-cast the arms of Optimus Prime from scratch,
    How expensive was it? This is the first I've heard of it.

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