STL's Journey into BWs

[kup]

I have to disagree about the Code of Hero animation and pace of the battle. I thought it was fantastic as Dinobot kept becoming more and more damaged as he strategically tried to pick off the Predacons one by one. I also liked how he selflessly refused to go into stasis lock knowing that not doing so added with more damage would seal his fate.

I found that heroic in a tragic way as he didn't selflessly do it for the humans but for himself since he had shamed his honor in the previous few episodes.

This episode ranks as one of my favorite Transformers stories ever. Only the Agenda as a whole (all 3 episodes) surpases it.
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[STL]

Gah! You guys were right! X-9 Ravage is expensive!!! Gonna have to wait at least till after Botcon payments to seek this fella out! Damn.

[1orion2many]

Yes he is but I think I said in earlier posts on the other board once you have seen him in the show you'll want to get him. Have you seen him yet in the last eps of season 2.

[STL]

Indeed, I have/am. Mighty impressed am I! Love the accent too.

[roller]

i wish i was an STL

[GoktimusPrime]

[kup]

Ravage is all grown up
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[STL]

The Agenda

It may be a 3 part story but it's strength as a single story that defines its exceptional quality. Hands down, this is one of the best, if not the best, Transformer stories ever. Comic, novella or film.

The construction of the episode works brilliantly in my mind b/c of the wonderful control of pace of the episodes. There's the necessary troughs after the tantalising highs that rock you back and forth in anticipation. The time factor is always there, there's always that sense of desperation and movement that keeps the viewer on edge.

In terms of story elements:
- Megatron is so bad he's lovable. An all-time favourite of mine now. He's not far behind G1 Megatron and I'd say G1 Megatron only reigns b/c he is the original and his cold ruthlessness stands out more than BWs Megatron's subtle and calculating self. I loved where he said he'd take a gamble. It just shows how aware he is of the situation that he knows it. It's not a gamble b/c he has the heat of the moment decision, it's b/c he's thought it through thoroughly and htere are no other options.
- The trap for Primal and Cheetor. That's just Megatron. So badass.
- Ravage. Wow. Has he evolved. Just the how slick and stealthy nature of him combined with that accent makes him sound so evil.
- Tripredacus Council. They have minor appearance but it's so important to the shaping of the TF world. One scene basically sets the tone for everything. And it reveals even more about Megatron in the process.
- Tarantulas being revealed as part of the Decepticon Secret Police, Damn. That made so much sense. More so it was great to see Megatron's fiery reaction.
- Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. They are just cute and Silverbolt's just so dumb... er... noble. It's quite adoring to watch them banter.
- The Maximals with thier backs to the wall. I really felt it a sense of what they were up against. They're rush against time.
- Silverbolt disobeyed Primal's direct order.
- I'm sure there's more but I'd be here forever if It ried to list them

Integral to my enjoyment is the sense of the universe that Kup has constantly made mention of. I can see that now and the way G1 history is interwoven into Beast Wars continuity elevates both to a new status. It adds a new level of intrigue to the world of the Transformers. It forces us to consider the themes of war and freedom in a new light. The end of the Cybertronian Wars gave us peace but what transpired in the eons since leave many questions to asked. And because those questions are not answered, it makes us marvel and speculate about our Transformers. And that's what holds the attention. It's what elevates this beyond excellent to something that will endure.

One of the things that shocked me in a bad way was how small BWs TFs are compared to G1 TFs. Megatron is virtually the size of Optimus' head! It's a bit disappointing to find that.

As a naysayer to BWs at one stage, I understand and appreciate what people see in the series now. The 1st season got me to like the characters and made it a good cartoon. Season 2 merely elevated it to a level beyond belief.

[kup]

I am glad you enjoyed the Agenda as much as I did. It is one of those episodes that make you proud and rewards you for being a Transformers fan. You get an even bigger kick from the episode if you are a G1 fan!

The reason that the Maximal/Predacon generation of Transformers are smaller is a progressive evolution to tackle the fuel shortage that was prevalent during the G1 era. If you look at their size and events that happened in late G1 (comics), it is not much of a stretch to assume that the Maximals and Predacons are a progression of the Micromaster technology. I too got a huge shock when he was flying over the deactivated Decepticons and he seemed so small and finally when he got to Prime. He is larger than his head, just the angle they had him flying in front of him doesn't help with the sense of scale. In the first episode of season 3 you will get much more of an idea of scale between Prime and BW era transformers.

That is what I love about Beast Wars, much of the stuff you see in the BW cartoon seems to be a progression of concepts and elements seen in G1 and that's why I have a tendency to see G1 and BW as one big glorious whole.

So how did you react when you saw G1 Megatron's message, the Ark, the deactivated G1 Transformers within and finally Optimus Prime?
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[GoktimusPrime]

kup's explanation of the size difference between BW and G1 TFs is accurate.

The following contains spoilers from the BotCon comics (which also contains some BM spoilage) - so don't read it if you ever intend to read them, otherwise read away.




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At the end of the Great War, Hot Rod - now called "Rodimus" was the leader of the Autobots, who won the war thanks to the assistance of a reformed Wreckers (still under the leadership of their last leader, Springer). The Pax Cybertronia treatise heralds a new era of peace on Cybertron which is widely celebrated. This era also sees the birth of the "Maximal Upgrade," which as kup said does appear to be an evolution from Micromaster technology.

In late G1 we saw Micromasters developed on Cybertron as a way of making more fuel-efficient Transformers. The Beast Wars Transformers are portrayed as being more fuel-efficient than their G1 counterparts. When BW Megatron first enters the Ark and beholds the G1 TFs strewn everywhere, notice that he refers to them as "Archaic Energon-guzzlers!".

In the late G1 Japanese toyline and manga, Hot Rod was reduced to Micromaster size during the Battlestars - and by BW/BM era Rodimus is seen as having gone through the Maximal Upgrade, although he retains his old Autobot form, but is the same size as BW TFs... in other words, he's essentially a Micromaster Rodimus.



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Now, having said all that - another reason why the writers made the BW TFs so small is also because they wanted to make the G1 TFs look like Gods (re: Titans) in comparison with the BW TFs.

The "godlike" nature of the G1TFs is further expanded upon in Season 3.

Oh yeah, don't think you know everything about the truth of Tarantulas yet... there's still more to him than meets the eye!