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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    I've read The Gathering and The Ascending and I like them both! My only gripe is that Furman dropped the ball with its continuity. The series so easily could've been written to fit in with existing continuity from the television series, but the conclusion of The Ascending places it out of continuity - which I was disappointed with because it seemed that on many other levels the series tries to be in canon with the TV series.

    It's not like the IDW G1 series which makes no pretense or attempt of being in canon with pre-existing G1... the BW comics on many, many levels really tries to be in-canon, yet on other more subtle levels, just fails. GAH!
    you have peaked my interest with this statement. I am yet to read the Ascending (waiting for TPB).

    Without spoilers, do you mean that it stuffs the Beast Wars series continuity or the continuation from BW onto Beast Machines?
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    slightly screws around with BW continuity, although I seriously doubt most people would even notice. The canonical stuff that it screws around with all occurs outside the Canadian TV series. Feel free to come over and read my copies if you want, or if I can come to the next Parramatta Fair meet remind me to bring my copies if you wanna read them (or come over after the fair to read them, as it may be less distracting then reading them at a meet in a food court or something - whatever you prefer). I still have to confirm if I'm attending the next meet or not.

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    So the comics screws only with the Japanese series such as Beast Wars Second and Neo? Oh okay, I don't mind that too much since the few episodes that I have seen of those series are okay but not very good. They are very kiddy and have very odd cutesy anime humor and stuff such as how Moon always gets his head hammered by Gaia. As long as the Canadian CGI series continuity is not screwed with, I don't mind.

    Thanks for the offer on the comics, Kelvin but bringing them to the meet would not really give me the chance to both read it and enjoy them properly while keeping up with conversations and discussions. The TPB for the Ascending is due soon I believe so I will read it then, if not I will take up your offer next time I come over to your place. Thank you.
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    Just watched Theft of the Golden Disk

    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    I think that its safe to watch the TFCC video but dont expect too much because it is a bit amateurish and hard to follow as there is almost no dialogue.
    No kidding. Besides Megatron and Cryotek, the others didn't even talk. The whole silence thing went a bit too far. I do respect the animation work though since it's by fans.

    As for the story, who were the eight thiefs? Which one was supposed to be Scorponok b/c he comes up in the credits but I don't recall seeing him anywhere. The plot is pretty hard to follow but I think the basic premise is Megatron doublecrosses the doublecrossing Cryotek. Wish it had been clearer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL View Post
    Just watched Theft of the Golden Disk



    No kidding. Besides Megatron and Cryotek, the others didn't even talk. The whole silence thing went a bit too far. I do respect the animation work though since it's by fans.

    As for the story, who were the eight thiefs? Which one was supposed to be Scorponok b/c he comes up in the credits but I don't recall seeing him anywhere. The plot is pretty hard to follow but I think the basic premise is Megatron doublecrosses the doublecrossing Cryotek. Wish it had been clearer though.
    Some of the animation models are also a bit hard to see. Its a good fan video but it can be a bit chaotic at times.

    Most of the stuff that was unclear in the video is actually addressed in the Botcon 06 comic 'Dawn of Future's Past'. It takes place seconds after Megatron has stolen the disc but the overall plan is still in progress so you see who the team players are and their purpose.
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    I got home and figured I'd do some reading or write some fanfic in these late hours but somehow decided instead to watch:

    Optimal Situation

    Amazing. The opening of this episode makes me want to cry almost. Why? Because it's only 13 episodes long!

    The start to Season 3 is nothing short of stupendous. The writers have weaved together a wonderful, action-filled, topsy turvy plot. The G1 elements come to the fore. And that sense of how small the BW Transformers are is overwhelming. G1 Prime is like a legend. The matrix a myth. I could not believe how far they delved into G1. My initial interpretation was just protect Optimus but they take it to the next level. G1 Prime's most famous lines send a gleeful chuckle down one's back here.

    Silverbolt's confession of love and all was almost unbearable. Damn, do they get more corny than that? The thing that saved that scene was Rhinox and Rattrap telling him she's only in stasis lock. The look on his face was priceless.

    I like the fact that Blackarachnia is still refusing to admit she is on the Maximals side. It makes her character stronger and at the same time more real. Women hate admitting the truth.

    Optimal Optimus' sheer size is amazing. I'm surprised though that after exposure to the Matrix he didn't shrink back down.

    Tarantulas, I sense, is up to no good. His little spiders and that one little appearance makes me ask so many questions. He's a coniving little creep. Did his drones deliberately knock Ravage's head into the water? Not that that'll be an issue b/c I expect to see more X-9.

    What was good about this episode (and what I'm appreciating more and more) is that neither side really came out on top. Yes, the Maximals achieved what they needed to but the Predacons have now left them stranded w/out a way home.

    Only 12 episodes to go and so much to happen in that time... I cannot wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL
    Women hate admitting the truth
    Hasn't your woman told you? Women are plenty good at admitting the truth - it's just that men are always wrong!

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    Optimal Optimus' sheer size is amazing. I'm surprised though that after exposure to the Matrix he didn't shrink back down.
    He wasn't actually mutated by the Matrix, but by the Spark of Optimus Prime, whose own Spark is very powerful due to its own exposure to the Matrix and the fact that he's freakin' Optimus Prime - as I mentioned before, the BW writers wanted to portray the Autobots as Titan-like gods compared to BW TFs and Optimus Prime and Megatron are like high level gods.

    But you will notice that when Optimal Optimus is carrying Prime's Spark, that his voice is actually a lot deeper and more digitised (as G1 voices were digitised to make them sound more robotic) and he was going around spouting classic Prime lines - but Optimus Primal's voice reverts to normal after he returns Prime's Spark.

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    Tarantulas, I sense, is up to no good. His little spiders and that one little appearance makes me ask so many questions. He's a coniving little creep.
    Hehehe... believe me, you know nothing about the real truth of Tarantulas yet. Watch more!!
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    Did his drones deliberately knock Ravage's head into the water?
    No. That scene was done to show audiences that Ravage definitely did die in that explosion to prevent people from speculate weird survival stories (as some fans have done w/ Brawn :/)
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    Not that that'll be an issue b/c I expect to see more X-9.
    Umm... don't hold your breath.

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    Really? X-9 died? I find that really... wrong. In the past, we've seen Megatron gut Blackarachnia, Waspinator fal to so many bits, Inferno survive massive explosions at point blank range and X-9 doesn't? Boo!

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    Really? X-9 died? I find that really... wrong. In the past, we've seen Megatron gut Blackarachnia, Waspinator fal to so many bits, Inferno survive massive explosions at point blank range and X-9 doesn't? Boo!
    Just say that you wont see X-9 in this season again..

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    Awesome that you saw Optimal Situation. Now you can feel free to read the first few pages of that Vector Prime comic without any spoilers :P You will get a brief but pleaseant surprise that adds more depth to the events of that episode.

    There is still more cool stuff to happen in this Season but I am curious to see what you think of TM2 Transformers that will be coming up soon.
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    At the end of The Agenda all of the Predacons were in pieces except Megatron and Blackarachnia. Look at the damage that was done to Inferno. Rampage has to peel himself off the wall. Quickstrike, Waspinator and Tarantulas have to literally "pull themselves together".

    In Beast Wars fiction dead does not equal dead. Ravage will return. Decepticons forever!

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