Combiner Wars Toyline: Rumors, Speculation, Ideas etc

[Zommael]

I got the urge to buy extra limbs (cheaply) and build all the uncombined combiner torsos I have and will have into gestalt's. I have Alpha Bravo, Off Road and Rook all uncombined. What other limbs would you guys suggest for Ultra Prime, Gavatronus and whatever Grand Scourge's combined form is called?

Galvatronus: repurpose Takara Groove as Tailpipe and Brawl as Grindcore. Repaint Rook as Straxus, and the Aerialbot of your choice as Jhiaxus. Voila, Dead Universe combiner (yeah, I suggested this waaaaay back at the beginning of this thread). I've left Scourge out because Grand Scourge exists and I hate name reuse.

Ultra Prime: don't bother picking up Battle Core Optimus Prime and just use the Wave 4 guys. Simples. Or use the Wave 6 guys and don't combine Sky Lynx, because he has a more unique alt mode than combined mode.

Grand Scourge: Grand Scourge is based on Black Convoy from Car Robots (I'm using the Japanese names to avoid confusion, as there are many other things with the same Western names as BC and CR). Black Convoy was created at the same time as Baldigus, who was a redeco of G1 Bruticus. Therefore, use the deluxe Combaticons, either repainted into (one of) their CR schemes or just leave them if you can't be bothered. Call the combined form either Baldigus or Ruination.

[Deonasis]

Grand Scourge: Grand Scourge is based on Black Convoy from Car Robots

Actually he is a character from the Energon/SuperLink series (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Grand_Scourge). It would be best to combine him with figures that closely match the 4 drones he combines with (it would be super sweet if Takara did officially made the repaints).

[Zommael]

Actually he is a character from the Energon/SuperLink series (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Grand_Scourge). It would be best to combine him with figures that closely match the 4 drones he combines with (it would be super sweet if Takara did officially made the repaints).

Car Robots Black Convoy, while not the first black repaint of Optimus Prime or a Convoy, was the first to play a central role as part of the main fiction (the CR cartoon)' and was the first Decepticon repaint of a toy previously released as Optimus Prime (as far as I am aware). He was also the first such toy to be named Scourge, in the Western adaptation of Car Robots as Robots In Disguise. He was followed by Armada Nemesis Prime, which was named Scourge in Japan. Grand Scourge was a model kit which extended the concept to Energon Optimus Prime, and that's what the Combiner Wars release is based on.

Thus, Grand Scourge IS based on Black Convoy, and the Combaticon idea has a solid foundation in the history of the brand.

[Deonasis]

Ok, I see the link you are making. Personally I see Grand Scourge remaining a separate character to Scourge until they make a back story linking them (e.g. how did he become ‘Grand’? Or is he a puppetmaster of many Scourgii?). The TFWiki link above mentions that Grand Scourge is a separate entity in his new eHobby bio but the article did not provide proof of this either. Oh well.

By the same token i think CW Onslaught would make a better torso for Ruination but still I am all for more combiner limbs so bring them all I say.

[Zommael]

Ok, I see the link you are making. Personally I see Grand Scourge remaining a separate character to Scourge until they make a back story linking them (e.g. how did he become ‘Grand’? Or is he a puppetmaster of many Scourgii?). The TFWiki link above mentions that Grand Scourge is a separate entity in his new eHobby bio but the article did not provide proof of this either. Oh well.

By the same token i think CW Onslaught would make a better torso for Ruination but still I am all for more combiner limbs so bring them all I say.

They're separate characters, but only in the same way that Movie Optimus Prime and G1 Optimus Prime are. One is clearly inspired by the other. That's what I'm getting at, plus the fact that there aren't really limbs that work for an Energon Optimus mode at present, other than the helicopter.

[BigTransformerTrev]

there aren't really limbs that work for an Energon Optimus mode at present, other than the helicopter.

What might work down the line: Take the helicopter blades off for the submarine, replace the claw arm with a ladder on Rook for the fire engine. And when they do Nosecone for the Technobots recolour him for the drill tank

[Zommael]

What might work down the line: Take the helicopter blades off for the submarine, replace the claw arm with a ladder on Rook for the fire engine. And when they do Nosecone for the Technobots recolour him for the drill tank

I'd almost be surprised if this isn't released as a boxed set one day - maybe with a gold/yellow repaint of Blackjack as Sparkplug for more homage-y goodness. But I have my doubts about whether we will actually get the Technobots. *wanders off grumbling about Betatron and Bruticus*