Combiner Wars Toyline: Rumors, Speculation, Ideas etc

[BigTransformerTrev]

Like many I've been getting right into the debate about what else we are going to see in the Combiner Wars toyline. But it's such a hot topic and so widely discussed I've lost track of all the different threads that feature it so I thought I might create one thread here where everyone can go. I've put down what is confirmed, semi-confirmed and is speculation.

Note: There may be some spoilers for people not completely up to date with the IDW comics so read at ones own peril.


(CONFIRMED)
Constructicons: Devestator
Main body & limbs:
Scrapper?
Scavenger?
Long Haul?
Hook/Hightower?
Mixmaster?
Bonecrusher?

Last Comic Appearance: Currently featuring heavily in the IDW comics
Last Toy Appearance: Appeared as a Kre-O Microchange Combiner & two individuals. Before that the ROTF combiner.
Last Media Appearance: Devestator and the Constructicons were in ROTF, Mixmaster & Scrapper were in Transformers Animated.

Speculation: It’s highly rumoured that Devestator will of Titan-class size when combined, meaning that all the individual Constructicons may be Voyager sized.


(SEMI CONFIRMED)
Protectobots: Defensor
Main Body: Hot Spot?
Limbs:
First Aid
Rook
Streetwise/smart?
Blades?
Groove?

Last Comic Appearance: All characters (bar Rook) are currently on the Lost Light and an upcoming comic cover has shown Defensor.
Last Toy Appearance: All the Protectobots showed up as part of the Thriling 30 line as Asia Kids Day exclusive figures. Before that as a Kre-O Microchange combiner (with 5th member individual).

Speculation: Groove may turn out to be a gun like Powerglide or perhaps as some large cycle vehicle if they intend to use him as a limb and retool him for Afterburner.



(All the following are SPECULATION)

Combaticons: Bruticus
Main Body: Onslaught?
Limbs:
Brawl?
Swindle?
Vortex?
Blast Off?

Last Comic Appearance: The Combaticons featured in the Autocracy comics last year
Last Toy Appearance: All the Combaticons were released and formed Bruticus as part of the Thrilling 30 lineup as well as the FOC Generations toys before that. Before that as a Kre-O Microchange combiner (with 5th member individual).
Last Game Appearance: Rise of the Dark Spark
Last Media Appearance: Swindle featured in TF Animated and Brawl was in the first live action movie.

Speculation: I didn’t think it was likely that we would see another Bruticus so soon but after the announcement of Defensor its becoming more likely. Brawl and Swindle have both appeared in movies or cartoons in the past few years so are well known to younger audiences. There are already molds that could be retooled into Swindle (Off Road) and Vortex (Alpha Bravo).



Terrorcons: Abominus
Body: Hun-Grr?
Limbs:
Sinnertwin/Twinstrike?
Blot/Blight?
Rippersnapper?
Cutthroat/Windrazor?

Last Toy Appearance: Abominus and the Terrorcons were released as part of the Beast Hunters Toyline (note: were not actually officially called Terrorcons). Before that as a Kre-O Microchange combiner (with 5th member individual).
Last Comic Appearance: The Terrorcons were in Monstrosity, have shown up in crowd scenes in more recent comics.

Speculation: Through the Beast Hunters toyline they have become more well known to younger audiences so it’s possible. All 5 would require original new molds though so may only appear if the toyline proves to be a big seller. Blot is already dead in IDW but that probably wouldn’t make a difference.



Technobots: Computron
Main Body: Scattershot?
Limbs:
Afterburner?
Lighspeed?
Strafe?
Nosecone?

Last Toy Appearance: Afterburner is to appear this year as a TFCC non-transforming exclusive. Before that as a Kre-O Microchange combiner (with 5th member individual).
Last Comic Appearance: Scattershot has been assisting Fixit in semi-recent comics. A couple died when Kimia exploded

Speculation: Not well known to younger audiences. A couple of limb characters are already dead in IDW. Lightspeed could be retooled from maybe Breakdown or Dead End but the others would require new molds. Strafe’s name got nicked for the-Swoop like character in AoE. Conclusion – unlikely.


Predacons: Predaking
Main Body: Razorclaw?
Limbs:
Tantrum?
Divebomb?
Headstrong?
Rampage?

Last Comic Appearance: Appeared as a team in the Autocracy comics.
Last Toy Appearance: G1 Predaking was released as part of the Thrilling 30 toyline. Before that as a Kre-O Microchange combiner (with 5th member individual). A Predaking character was part of the Beast Hunters toyline.
Last Media Appearance: Predaking appeared in Beast Hunters and was orange and black with huge wings, but was an individual rather than a gestalt.

Speculation: All five characters would require new molds. The fanbase may yell out for 5 figures all the same size (could they rationalize it for Razorclaw to be bigger than the other 4?) necessitating them doing the gestalt a different way. Predaking will be more recognizable as a different character to the younger fanbase due to the TFPrime cartoon. Probably unlikely.



Seacons: Piranacon
Body: Snap Trap?
Limbs:
Tentakil?
Skalor?
Seawing?
Overbite?
Nautilator?

Last Toy Appearance: Kre-O Microchange combiner, reissue of the G1 toy, BW space pirates.
Last Comic Appearance: Many of the Seacons have appeared in MTMTE, many damaged but not fatally (despite appearances).
Last Media Appearance: Masterforce (Beast Wars II for God Neptune)

Speculation: (Paulbot) They are the one classic combiner that actually has a sixth member who turns into a gun for the gestalt. Of course all the limbs become a gun for their gestalt, but you could pick one - I'd like Nautilator to be it. There might be some way to reuse/remould some limbs for parts of Abominus/Monstructor/Predaking. They have recolour potential for Beast Wars fans.




Monster Pretenders: Monstructor
Main body & limbs:
Slog?
Icepick?
Bristleback?
Scowl?
Wildfly?
Birdbrain?

Last Comic Appearance: Has been (until recently) the most used Gestalt in the IDW’verse
Last Toy Appearance: Going all the way back to the 1980's!

Speculation: This group did not even get a Kre-O Microchanger combiner. The Pretender gimmick would probably be ignored which could irritate a lot of Geewuners. All 6 characters would require new molds (unless Wildfly shared with Divebomb and thats IF Divebomb got made in the first place) and it would require a different form of combining gimmick unless they left a character out or copied the new Devestator's way of combining. Conclusion – the least likely of the lot to be featured.

[Paulbot]

I want to throw in the forgotten Scramble City combiner:

Seacons: Piranacon
Body: Snap Trap
Limbs:
Tentakil
Skalor
Seawing
Overbite
Legend weapon: Nautilator

Last Toy Appearance: Kre-O Microchange combiner, reissue of the G1 toy, BW space pirates.
Last Comic Appearance: Many of the Seacons have appeared in MTMTE, many damaged but not fatally (despite appearances).
Last Media Appearance: Masterforce (Beast Wars II for God Neptune)

Speculation: They are the one classic combiner that actually has a sixth member who turns into a gun for the gestalt. Of course all the limbs become a gun for their gestalt, but you could pick one - I'd like Nautilator to be it. There might be some way to reuse/remould some limbs for parts of Abominus/Monstructor/Predaking. They have recolour potential for Beast Wars fans.



Also if they did a Predaking some sort of exclusive version as the Anibots would be cool.

I was just looking at the Kre-O exclusive combiners in store yesterday (Grimstone, Lazerbolt, Obsidian, Volanicon). Their animalistic limbs could also be a way to reuse animal modes for Predaking, Piranacon, Monstructor and Abominus.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I want to throw in the forgotten Scramble City combiner:

Seacons: Piranacon
Body: Snap Trap
Limbs:
Tentakil
Skalor
Seawing
Overbite
Legend weapon: Nautilator

Last Toy Appearance: Kre-O Microchange combiner, reissue of the G1 toy, BW space pirates.
Last Comic Appearance: Many of the Seacons have appeared in MTMTE, many damaged but not fatally (despite appearances).
Last Media Appearance: Masterforce (Beast Wars II for God Neptune)

Speculation: They are the one classic combiner that actually has a sixth member who turns into a gun for the gestalt. Of course all the limbs become a gun for their gestalt, but you could pick one - I'd like Nautilator to be it. There might be some way to reuse/remould some limbs for parts of Abominus/Monstructor/Predaking. They have recolour potential for Beast Wars fans.



Also if they did a Predaking some sort of exclusive version as the Anibots would be cool.

I was just looking at the Kre-O exclusive combiners in store yesterday (Grimstone, Lazerbolt, Obsidian, Volanicon). Their animalistic limbs could also be a way to reuse animal modes for Predaking, Piranacon, Monstructor and Abominus.

Oh crap! I forgot the Seacons! I even own them lol. Will paste your post into my initial one now

[prjkt]

Hotspot and Groove almost certainly confirmed with the wireframe models in the Transformers voting app

EDIT: and with a bit of retooling, swapping out the ladder for cab mounted guns, add a landing pad for space shuttle (or any other deluxe design) we'd have Onslaught...

[BigTransformerTrev]

Hotspot and Groove almost certainly confirmed with the wireframe models in the Transformers voting .

Hmmm, that means either Streetwise or Blades won't make up part of the initial 5 (guessing that like The Stunticons and Aerielbots there is gonna be an extra limb character)

[llamatron]

I believe Groove is a Legends sized "weapon" for Defensor, with Rook (Offroad repaint/retool) taking his place as a limb. Based off the comic cover Blades is in as an Alpha Bravo repaint/retool.

[SuspectimusPrime]

Also if they did a Predaking some sort of exclusive version as the Anibots would be cool.

This is news to me! Followed the external links and found a scan of the draft of the original TFTM script! Good times ahead!

[DELTAprime]

I got the urge to buy extra limbs (cheaply) and build all the uncombined combiner torsos I have and will have into gestalt's. I have Alpha Bravo, Off Road and Rook all uncombined. What other limbs would you guys suggest for Ultra Prime, Gavatronus and whatever Grand Scourge's combined form is called?

[Deano85]

I got the urge to buy extra limbs (cheaply) and build all the uncombined combiner torsos I have and will have into gestalt's. I have Alpha Bravo, Off Road and Rook all uncombined. What other limbs would you guys suggest for Ultra Prime, Gavatronus and whatever Grand Scourge's combined form is called?

My optimus has alpha bravo and rook as arms and streetwise and wildrider as legs. Waiting for smokescreen and hound to use for optimus.

[Zommael]

I got the urge to buy extra limbs (cheaply) and build all the uncombined combiner torsos I have and will have into gestalt's. I have Alpha Bravo, Off Road and Rook all uncombined. What other limbs would you guys suggest for Ultra Prime, Gavatronus and whatever Grand Scourge's combined form is called?

Galvatronus: repurpose Takara Groove as Tailpipe and Brawl as Grindcore. Repaint Rook as Straxus, and the Aerialbot of your choice as Jhiaxus. Voila, Dead Universe combiner (yeah, I suggested this waaaaay back at the beginning of this thread). I've left Scourge out because Grand Scourge exists and I hate name reuse.

Ultra Prime: don't bother picking up Battle Core Optimus Prime and just use the Wave 4 guys. Simples. Or use the Wave 6 guys and don't combine Sky Lynx, because he has a more unique alt mode than combined mode.

Grand Scourge: Grand Scourge is based on Black Convoy from Car Robots (I'm using the Japanese names to avoid confusion, as there are many other things with the same Western names as BC and CR). Black Convoy was created at the same time as Baldigus, who was a redeco of G1 Bruticus. Therefore, use the deluxe Combaticons, either repainted into (one of) their CR schemes or just leave them if you can't be bothered. Call the combined form either Baldigus or Ruination.