The Pros & Cons of Michael Bay - discussion topic

[Sinnertwin]

I don't think anyone really cares that much anymore.

Give it time.
Give it time...

[5FDP]

Gee, what a shock

[BigTransformerTrev]

remind me to avoid the boards in 2017
I don't think i can handle another bout of "my childhood, ruined forever!" or "the franchise is down the toilet"

Totally agree! I like to walk out of the movies thinking of all the positives I saw. I even walked out of ROTF saying "Well Ravage and Long Haul looked pretty damn cool!"

I don't think anyone really cares that much anymore.

Give it time.
Give it time...

Yeah, somehow I don't think that the chances of people not complaining about the negatives in the movies are good - espeically on a board populated by TF fanboys


Personally I was hoping we had seen the last of bay in a Directors role, but I'll live with it if it turns out otherwise

[kup]

Totally agree! I like to walk out of the movies thinking of all the positives I saw. I even walked out of ROTF saying "Well Ravage and Long Haul looked pretty damn cool!"





Yeah, somehow I don't think that the chances of people not complaining about the negatives in the movies are good - espeically on a board populated by TF fanboys


Personally I was hoping we had seen the last of bay in a Directors role, but I'll live with it if it turns out otherwise

I actually think Bay may have screwed up his career as a director with Transformers. It seems that the studios don't want him for anything else and whatever other movie he wants to do, is only under the condition he makes the next TF film. Since nobody really cares or likes anything else he has been doing, I think he has become a repeating one trick monkey.

His career as a director may have been cornered on the toilet end of the floor but that shouldn't affect him that badly. The money that TFs gained him has allowed him to buy a lot of horror franchises. Yes, he makes awful movies out of them but he still owns them.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I actually think Bay may have screwed up his career as a director with Transformers. It seems that the studios don't want him for anything else and whatever other movie he wants to do, is only under the condition he makes the next TF film. Since nobody really cares or likes anything else he has been doing, I think he has become a repeating one trick monkey.

His career as a director may have been cornered on the toilet end of the floor but that shouldn't affect him that badly. The money that TFs gained him has allowed him to buy a lot of horror franchises. Yes, he makes awful movies out of them but he still owns them.

Depends on the perspective. Considering what a massive money earner the TF franchise has been (the last 3 all in the top 50 grosing movies of all time with DOTM at 8 and AOE at 11) they could be considered by the studio to be a great success. Money speaks more loudly than plot-holes

Yeah - that fragger is rich as! I wish I was earning that much money from a career going down the tubes

[kup]

Depends on the perspective. Considering what a massive money earner the TF franchise has been (the last 3 all in the top 50 grosing movies of all time with DOTM at 8 and AOE at 11) they could be considered by the studio to be a great success. Money speaks more loudly than plot-holes

Yeah - that fragger is rich as! I wish I was earning that much money from a career going down the tubes

Do a show in which you just do fart, poo and piss jokes with some naked women and pyrotechnics and you may not need a day job anymore

[GoktimusPrime]

I actually had a boy in a year 8 class this morning tell me that he's never seen a TF movie and asked me if I thought they were worth watching. I said, "Do you care about the story?" and he said, "No.", so I answered, "Yes.". Another boy asked me, "What if you do care?" and I recommended that he read the comics.

It all depends on what you're expecting or what you like. If all you want is a really thrilling visual spectacle, then the movies do deliver that in spades. If you want a good story, then maybe not. But I just wish that they could make a Transformers movie that gives us a decent story and is a visual spectacle. These two things are not mutually exclusive (e.g. Star Wars Original Trilogy!).

[BigTransformerTrev]

Do a show in which you just do fart jokes with some naked women and pyrotechnics and you may not need a day job anymore

I called that 'going out clubbing' when I was in London - noone paid me though

[Magnus]

I actually had a boy in a year 8 class this morning tell me that he's never seen a TF movie and asked me if I thought they were worth watching. I said, "Do you care about the story?" and he said, "No.", so I answered, "Yes.". Another boy asked me, "What if you do care?" and I recommended that he read the comics.

It all depends on what you're expecting or what you like. If all you want is a really thrilling visual spectacle, then the movies do deliver that in spades. If you want a good story, then maybe not. But I just wish that they could make a Transformers movie that gives us a decent story and is a visual spectacle. These two things are not mutually exclusive (e.g. Star Wars Original Trilogy!).

I personally think the movies do deliver on decent (not great) story. They're not hard to follow, don't have complex subplots, and it's (usually) clear what characters are doing and why. I'm not really sure what constitutes 'good' or 'bad' in these instances, but at the same time, I'd think that story-based complaints should really be levelled at the writers, not Michael Bay.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Yeah, somehow I don't think that the chances of people not complaining about the negatives in the movies are good - espeically on a board populated by TF fanboys

Personally I was hoping we had seen the last of bay in a Directors role, but I'll live with it if it turns out otherwise

I think people only focus on the negatives when they outweigh the positives. Like AOE.

I'll also live with it if Bay directs the next movie. I just won't bother seeing it. After the last three horrid movies (and I truly think they were trash), I'll just go and see something good instead.