The Pros & Cons of Michael Bay - discussion topic

[GoktimusPrime]

I for one get tired of having to justify being a TF fan because there are people out there who think that Transformers = Bayverse, and that the franchise didn't even exist before or outside of the movies. I'm serious. Just last week I had someone ask me how long I've been a fan of Transformers and I answered, "Since the beginning," and that person answered, "So since the first movie came out." He wasn't being facetious or anything, he was being sincere. Now, regardless of whether you love or hate the movies, I think that we can all agree that 'Transformers' is so much more than just these films. And let's face it, even if these films never existed, we'd still be massive fans of Transformers.

Regardless of whether we love or hate the movies, most of us here are fans of Transformers in spite of the films, not because of them. And we'll still be fans long after the film franchise has ended.

[Yongeltron]

...let's face it, even if these films never existed, we'd still be massive fans of Transformers.

But maybe not all of us would though.

Credit should be given to the movies for the reinvigoration of the brand they have achieved. The sucess of the movies and Animated and TFPrime and the video games off the back of them has introduced Transformers to a whole new generation of fans and re-introduced it to previous ones. They're a big reason why the brand has its current strength and why the fans have it so good.

To the long-time fans, Transformers obviously never went away. To the rest of the world, it had all but disappeared until it came roaring back in 2007. People who like Transformers for what it is now are no less legitimate as Transformers fans as those who grew up on G1. Maybe long time fans don't feel that way, or feel that such fan-hood is second-rate, but I think it's important to recognise different perspectives and tastes in the TF fandom as legitimate.

Transformers fan-hood isn't predicated on your level of knowledge, your years of following or the size of your collection. It's whether you like Transformers (for whatever that means to you).

[Paulbot]

Going to share this here: Transformers ruin your favourite movies.

[Yongeltron]

^Love it!

At the end of the video with Michael Bay, my girlfriend goes "was that Michael Bay? I've never seen him before. I always imagined he was just a suit with a lense-flair for a head."

[BigTransformerTrev]

Going to share this here: Transformers ruin your favourite movies.

Very good

[GoktimusPrime]

Transformers fan-hood isn't predicated on your level of knowledge, your years of following or the size of your collection. It's whether you like Transformers (for whatever that means to you).

I'm not talking about fans (I don't need to justify being a fan to another fan ), I'm talking about non-fans who perceive the live action films as being the entire TF franchise. They think that Transformers actually didn't exist before 2007! So when people see that I'm a fan of Transformers, they immediately make certain assumptions about my taste in movies/stories, and so I'm often left having to defend my passion for Transformers by explaining to them that it goes well beyond just the live action film series.

[drifand]

I'm not talking about fans (I don't need to justify being a fan to another fan ), I'm talking about non-fans who perceive the live action films as being the entire TF franchise. They think that Transformers actually didn't exist before 2007! So when people see that I'm a fan of Transformers, they immediately make certain assumptions about my taste in movies/stories, and so I'm often left having to defend my passion for Transformers by explaining to them that it goes well beyond just the live action film series.

same here, Many do not know beyond the existence of the flim series.