The Pros & Cons of Michael Bay - discussion topic

[Trent]

[BigTransformerTrev]

Quit while your behind big fella, your point is clearly sailing over people's heads

My personal opinion I expressed when I saw the movie. Done. Feel no need to drum on about it either way a year later. Snore fest

Heh - yep! I really didn't think it was difficult a concept but I guess I'd best go back to your tack and be an entertained observer, otherwise as Trent so succinctly pointed out -

- I'm just going to be doing the debating version of this to folk, when I was never even trying to debate or question their opinions in the first place

So go for your life kids! Love or hate the movie till the cows come home! No judgement from me (not that there really was in the first place. I did say I was amused but then when my toddler dances to the Wiggles I am amused by his behavior and it certainly doesn't mean I'm judging him negatively for it - it just makes me grin )

[drifand]

Coffee? Anyone?

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Slightly going back to a Trev post er... somewhere back there,
I saw the movies and hated them, but I feel that I have got my amusement from talking about how bad they are. Oh and my money's worth too. Although I didn't pay , so yay for free tickets.

To me, Bay films seem to be a random collection of action scenes that looks cool, and someone has to string them together somehow. Transformers especially so.

90% of atheists agree too.

[Paulbot]

Just saw some of ROTF (it's on Go! right now) and I know it's an unpopular opinion but I'd have liked to see more of Leo.

Second thought, watching them run around the desert I wonder how this movie would look if the colours of this movie were made more natural rather than the blue/orange colour grading (Like that Man of Steel in Colour video that went around a few weeks ago).

[Sinnertwin]

Second thought, watching them run around the desert I wonder how this movie would look if the colours of this movie were made more natural rather than the blue/orange colour grading (Like that Man of Steel in Colour video that went around a few weeks ago).

Damn you, Michael Bay! Sucking the colour out of the Transformers movies. Grumble grumble *waves fist* 👊

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm all for the globalisation of the franchise. They under-utilised Hong Kong (most of the fighting scenes are Detroit/Chicago staged to look like a Chinatown which is NOTHING like real HK)

It was explained that it's because they couldn't actually close off streets to shoot scenes. Apparently people were still walking through sets while they were filming, whereas in other countries like the U.S., you can block off the entire area and anyone who's not involved in the production have to make massive detours. Looks nothing like Hong Kong? Bay can't even get the geography of his own country right! In Revenge of the Fallen, the Smithsonian is shown to be in the middle of an Arizonian desert... in Washington D.C.! Also, Sam is living in D.C. in DotM and you can see skyscrapers in the background, despite the fact that Washington D.C. has none.

Btw, you might like this if you haven't already seen it:
AoE Honest Trailer

^lol.

[Bladestorm]

It was explained that it's because they couldn't actually close off streets to shoot scenes. Apparently people were still walking through sets while they were filming, whereas in other countries like the U.S., you can block off the entire area and anyone who's not involved in the production have to make massive detours. Looks nothing like Hong Kong? Bay can't even get the geography of his own country right! In Revenge of the Fallen, the Smithsonian is shown to be in the middle of an Arizonian desert... in Washington D.C.! Also, Sam is living in D.C. in DotM and you can see skyscrapers in the background, despite the fact that Washington D.C. has none.

Btw, you might like this if you haven't already seen it:
AoE Honest Trailer


^lol.

Honestly, I don't think the fact they couldn't close off streets is an excuse.
Where they do use real HK the scenes are really good (visually)...
AoE isn't the first action movie to be shot here ... and other directors have been able to (and still do) fully utilise the city even with the "open road" policy.
So in some ways I feel like Bay has used that and the air con incident as a bit of a cop out.

Honest Trailers rule. I saw the honest trailer for AoE when it first came out... so worth watching... almost better than the movie!

[BigTransformerTrev]

Slightly going back to a Trev post er... somewhere back there,
I saw the movies and hated them, but I feel that I have got my amusement from talking about how bad they are. Oh and my money's worth too. Although I didn't pay , so yay for free tickets.

90% of atheists agree too.

Oh. My. God.

Someone who didn't like the movie that actually understood what I was saying and therefore didn't feel insulted by it!

Can I frame you on my wall for the novelty value TC?

With the atheist thing, I used to be one of those passionate atheists who yelled from the mountain tops - now I've met too many cool religious people so it's something I still believe but don't really think about or talk about much these days.

I must be one of the 10% of them that didn't mind the flicks

[Smint]

I honestly dont mind how awful the designs are or how different the personality of optimus is compared to how we all know him. I just want a good movie.

If its done right this could be a whole other universe of TF. One filled with scrapyard robots, toilet humour and ethnic stereotypes but i can overlook that if the movie is overall good.

If the movie is terrible AND they include all those changes to TF then that gets me annoyed.

First one was a just pass for me, the rest were all terrible.

Bay should just be a second unit director and do action scenes for the directors who know how to tell a story.

The honest trailer is spot on.