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Thread: The Random Transformers Thoughts Thread

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    Retailers here just didn't want that Master range in Siege & Earthrise... it was a real struggle for Hasbro Australia to get any retailer to take them, which is why it got a lot more difficult to find that size class last year. (I thought it would have been a perfect size & price point for the grocery stores... but I guess not)
    If Hasbro had the same problem in America with their retailers, it might be why Kingdom doesn't have that size class. And if that is actually true (I don't know), it makes you wonder what would have been planned for Kingdom at that price point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulbot View Post
    It's only clicked for me that the $10 *master price point has been dropped from Generations this year. There's no TitanMaster/Primemaster/Battlemaster equivalent in the Kingdom toyline or the Studio Series.

    Personally no great loss. They never felt like Transformers in their own right but an accessory. The Titan Masters with their classic character heads and vehicle accessories were ok, the Prime Masters had interesting shells but they turned into oddly patterned boxes, and the Battle Masters really were accessories for the larger figures. Maybe they realised they were done when they made three Transformers that turn into planks...!

    Will the shops miss the cheap item? They never seem to sell out but the case assortment was always large.

    If there was a $10 price point *Master this year what would they have been? Fossilzers? Crazy idea but what if they'd been Battle Beasts, not converting Transformers at all!?

    Personally I would have liked them to release single packed Micromasters, still plenty of those to do and they could pad the line with some repaints and fill some gaps. I'm still annoyed that little Ironworks was only available in the very-expensive-to-get 10 pack! (Just not Rewind or Steeljaw please or other 'boxes'!)

    It also make me think about Orcanoch and Arachnid too with their mini-figs, and the amusing idea that the Kingdom Commander Class toy this year might turn out to be one of those two!


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    Oh, here's another thought, the Galactic Encounter 2: Micron Micromasters... maybe those were meant to be in Kingdom as single packed figures and when plans changes they got moved to be an exclusive instead...
    Biggest reason I miss the class is because I mainly bought them for the blast effects - and despite having compatibility in Kingdom, they're not giving us any new ones to use for our figures! (I would have bought a box of just blast effects tbh)

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    Just had a discussion with another collector about classifying the Buzzworthy toys.
    From what I've read on TF wiki and studying the packaging they should be viewed as a subline, not their own line.

    For instance, the Buzzworthy Bumblebee (the core class toy that is clearly Bumblejumper) should be viewed as WFC Trilogy > Buzzworthy > Bumblebee
    The WWII Bumblebee should be viewed as Studio Series > Buzzworthy > 26BB WWII Bumblebee

    Just as SS86, Siege, Earthrise and Kingdom are sublines, so too is Buzzworthy. The only difference is that Buzzworthy is a subline across multiple lines. At least that's how I read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Phantom View Post
    Just had a discussion with another collector about classifying the Buzzworthy toys.
    From what I've read on TF wiki and studying the packaging they should be viewed as a subline, not their own line.

    For instance, the Buzzworthy Bumblebee (the core class toy that is clearly Bumblejumper) should be viewed as WFC Trilogy > Buzzworthy > Bumblebee
    The WWII Bumblebee should be viewed as Studio Series > Buzzworthy > 26BB WWII Bumblebee

    Just as SS86, Siege, Earthrise and Kingdom are sublines, so too is Buzzworthy. The only difference is that Buzzworthy is a subline across multiple lines. At least that's how I read it.

    I would go further to say that the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line is less a subline and more a packaging refresh / rerelease.

    By way of comparison:
    We have the 1990s "Classics" rereleases of G1 toys. Do we consider them distinct from the G1 line, or a variation of the G1 line?
    Is the Transformers Universe repackaging of Energon Steamhammer a distinctly separate release to the Energon release or a case of packing variation?
    Did the Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles and Primus Unleashed packaging refresh in Armada, Energon and Cybertron respectively represent a separate subline or a simply packaging refreshment? If it was a subline, what do you do with figures that were in both sets of packaging?

    I think these questions can be helpful when trying to distinguish between which version of a toy you have, but trying to create a hard and fast rule for it is difficult.

    I would personally say it was a packaging variation of an existing line, but wouldn't object to those who considered it its own thing as long as they weren't trying to push their own interpretation as the "correct" interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime View Post
    Is the Transformers Universe repackaging of Energon Steamhammer a distinctly separate release to the Energon release or a case of packing variation?
    Did the Unicron Battles, Powerlinx Battles and Primus Unleashed packaging refresh in Armada, Energon and Cybertron respectively represent a separate subline or a simply packaging refreshment? If it was a subline, what do you do with figures that were in both sets of packaging?
    I think this handily covers it, inclusive of the fact that there is one (so far?) new mold in the line. The rest are straight repacks (with not even paint difference)
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    Just a random thought, and probably an unpopular one but hear me out.

    People love to throw comments around about the Beast Wars cartoon that are fairly big spoilers if you've never seen the show.

    I would assume most people will have picked up the spoilery content anyway through exposure to the fandom.

    But...

    With Kingdom toyline coming out, there'll be fans who've never watched the show seeking it out and watching it for the very first time.

    It's a 25 years old and hasn't had a lot of replay in the last 15-20 years so many younger fans will have missed it.

    They don't know some of the things we take for granted because we watched the episodes two decades ago.

    Anyway, I think we should be considerate of this for a while and not go around posting casual spoilers in reviews, photocomics or other such things.

    This is a long way of me explaining why I put spoiler tags in replying to a question in another thread.

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    I think it's not a terrible idea Paulbot. It's something I'd not thought about till now. But when was the last time the beast wars DVDs were available for purchase and has it ever been on a streaming service? I'm guessing not, and it's.not.skmething that you'd find to pirate and watch anyway.

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    My very quick and not extensive Google search comes up with 2011!? which is a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalops View Post
    My very quick and not extensive Google search comes up with 2011!? which is a long time ago.
    It is watchable online through questionable means.

    Not trying to suggest it’s a rule or anything, just something for individuals to consider

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