The Universal Counting Method

[GoktimusPrime]

Okay, some people don't agree with the UCM and don't want to use it for their personal counts. We get it. Please move on!

The UCM exists for the sole purpose of allowing the community to make comparisons, specifically (but not exclusively) for the survey.

What are you guys trying to achieve by continuing to debate this?

A more relevant question - should there be a new poll for Beatmix Bumblebee and the Cyber Slammers or can we retcon one of the existing articles to include that toy? I'm thinking that we could just include them in Article07 which states that statues, busts, PVCs, meal/candy toys and model kits don't count.

[GoktimusPrime]

Also, I forgot. Do Action Masters count?

Yes they do but their weapons and vehicles don't. (see Article02)

[springah]

Yes they do but their weapons and vehicles don't. (see Article02)

Wrong thread, thought you didn't want to debate in this thread any more?

This whole thing is stupid. How can you have a _universal_ system if it's only you, griff and dirge using it? (others too, maybe, but not everyone!)

See, I would argue that anything sold in the toy section under the brand name of 'Transformers' should be counted as thats how Hasbro and others do their check lists.

And of course their vehicles and weapsons don't. They're not characters.

Ooo, what about that one? As long as the toy is a character of some kind, its also a Transformer... right?

[GoktimusPrime]

Wrong thread, thought you didn't want to debate in this thread any more?

I'm not debating. You asked a question about a rule and I clarified it for you.

Please edit and delete the rest of your post after what I've quoted there. I will address your question in the more relevant thread.

[springah]

I'm not debating. You asked a question about a rule and I clarified it for you.

Please edit and delete the rest of your post after what I've quoted there. I will address your question in the more relevant thread.

Meh, I'm not a mod :P

[Geminii]

Transfan A's collection count is 200% larger than Transfan B's

Math terminology point. Either of these is correct:

Transfan A's collection count is 100% larger than Transfan B's.
Transfan A's collection count is 200% of Transfan B's.

[loophole]

Do kitbashes count if you have use a transformer toy recoulered it and slighly modified it?

[dirge]

Yes, because you're in purchase of a actual TF.

The layer of spray paint don't count d:

[TheDirtyDigger]

Yes, because you're in purchase of a actual TF.

The layer of spray paint don't count d:

Oh that's cool. I can now add my G1 Earl and Movie Fragface in!

[GoktimusPrime]

Okay, to answer loophole's question I would say that if you're just touching up the toy, but it's still essentially the same toy/character/incarnation, then yeah it counts. So your modified Universe Sunstreaker and Sideswipe would count. But if you're going to kitbash them into a substantially different toy/character/incarnation, then it wouldn't count.

Many of us touch up toys here and there. I've touched up a lot of worn out chrome on some of my G1 toys with mithral silver paint. Your touch-ups are just a lot more extensive () - but it's fundamentally the same principle.

e.g.: I don't count my G1 Sentinel Prime toy - a repaint of a G1 Rodimus Prime figure.