The Universal Counting Method

[Gutsman Heavy]

why does Revoltech count but Mega Collection Figures don't? they are pretty much the same thing!

[GoktimusPrime]

I personally agree but the majority of voters didn't. There's little point in debating the merits of each of these articles because as the Pre-Amble states, it's all based on subjective opinions (except for Article01 which is based on a legal definition). The threads where we had these polls were the places for these debates to happen - and they did. Further polls will be created as the need arises and you can debate about future classification criteria there, but this thread isn't the place for debating the pros and cons of these individual articles.

[jaydisc]

Will the polls be redone yearly? If not, what interval?

[Borgeman]

* ARTICLE 19: Only Transformers in C-6 condition or above count
i.e.: junkers don't count but anything that's not a junker counts.
Most toys that you find on eBay etc are C-6. They are in reasonably fine to good condition and are mostly in tact. They are not missing any major parts and are not too heavily worn with no significant damage. Gimmicks are still operational. They may or may not come with accessories, depending on the nature of the toy. They should come with any major accessories - so a Headmaster or Targetmaster would only be considered C-6 if it has its Nebulan partner. In the case of a Maximus, it needs to have at least the "Cerebros" component, because it can still form the basic robot mode w/o "Spike."

that isnt right is it? if you own a complete trypticon whose gimmiks dont work, would that mean that it is a junker under this definition?

i certainly hope not

George

[jaydisc]

Borgeman, You're going to upset Gok

I think we can all find flaws in various bits of this, but I think he thinks that that isn't what this thread is for...

Hence my question, now that this is the "official" counting method and we've had some time to reflect, when do we get to go back to the polls?

[roller]

ahhhhhhhhhh too many words

someone else can count my collection for me

[GoktimusPrime]

Will the polls be redone yearly? If not, what interval?

The survey will be redone yearly but not the polls for the articles because then the rules would change every year and we wouldn't be able to compare annual trends between years.

that isnt right is it? if you own a complete trypticon whose gimmiks dont work, would that mean that it is a junker under this definition?

As I said on the thread on that poll, definitions of conditions between C-2 to C-9 are very subjective and most of that definition is based on a general description for action figures in general and not necessarily just for Transformers (remember that there are some toys that are just worthless without their gimmick operating). For the purposes of this counting method, the definition of "below C-6" is what most of us would consider a junker. So long as the toy isn't a heap of crap that's only good as a junker for spare parts, then it counts. So by all means count your Trypticon with busted walking gimmick. My Omega Supreme's walking gimmick is broken and I count him.

I don't count my Aquablast because the chest/bonnet is detached and more importantly, it has no head. benben2142's recently acquired Transmetal Cheetor with no arms and missing tail doesn't count either (it's really the lack of arms that count against it, I would count a TM Cheetor w/ no tail if the body was in tact - it would certainly be incomplete, but not a junker).

So yeah, the basic rule with Article19 is that junkers don't count.

someone else can count my collection for me

Don't you have a headless Optimal Optimus? That wouldn't count. I recall you had Cybertron Optimus Prime which was in tact. So, erm... your collection is 1.