SPOILER THREAD: SW: The Force Awakens

[Verno]

Luke never would have mentioned to Ben that his grandfather, Anakin, came back to the light side of the Force before his death? It never would have come up while training him? That it was Anakin that destroyed the Emperor and Empire?

[Krayt]

Reading the novel....

Poe got concussion, knew Finn ejected, and woke up in time to land (control crash).... Jacket got caught, left it behind, stumbled off (and probably collapsed again)....

Was picked up by a little dude with a speeder, escaped some spirited in another speeded, and went to a different settlement to find a way off world.

Also, c3po needs to get fired.... When Leia hears about the attack, she tells 3po to find BB8, cause he did the pre-mission checks on him... But turns out he forgot to activate the long range tracking!

[jazzcomp]

Just like no one mentions that Anakin is Darth Vader and Luke's father until near the end of the movie EP VI. Maybe it was easier to tell of Darth Vader's exploits as a conqueror than the hero of the Republic as he's killed so many before changing sides at the end. And Luke as the hero is easier as he's a Jedi.

We all paint history differently to suit our needs. If Ben/Ren would've known that Vader was good, it would totally change his view.

Vader never knowingly tried to kill his family. He just killed Jedi trainers/council/kids as his view was distorted. Ben/Ren's story is different in this regard.

Don't know why a heroine is the point of this story now (maybe need to vary it) as Leia never seemed to have learned how to use her Jedi powers as she's Luke's twin (therefore, equally powerful).

[Gofigure]

Luke never would have mentioned to Ben that his grandfather, Anakin, came back to the light side of the Force before his death? It never would have come up while training him? That it was Anakin that destroyed the Emperor and Empire?

I think kylo had a warped perspective when it came to granddaddy Darth 😜

Whilst he was Darth he was on the right path of evil (a good thing in kylo's mind) then when he saw the light (or dark if you will in kylo's opinion) at the end of rotj kylo saw him lose sight of his rightful purpose.

Darth was corrupted by the light side of the force

Hence the whole 'I will finish what you have started'

[UltimateGalvatron]

Can someone please tell me what Obi-Wan and Yoda say during the vision.

Ben (Old Obi-Wan) Rey... these are your first steps
Obi-Wan ???
Yoda ???

[UltimateGalvatron]

Also, imagine if Anakin had helped Master Windu...