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    Really looking forward to this release! I hope we get a few other characters along the way.

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    [QUOTE=XMan;503890]Really looking forward to this release! I hope we get a few other characters along the way.[/QU

    Disagree here, as I think many is already skipping this.

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    [QUOTE=drifand;503904]
    Quote Originally Posted by XMan View Post
    Really looking forward to this release! I hope we get a few other characters along the way.[/QU

    Disagree here, as I think many is already skipping this.
    I disagree with your disagree

    I am looking forward to seeing what Takara can produce... IMO Beast Wars has some of the best toys

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    This is still early stage of the CGI and it looks like to mainly work out the engineering and transformation (to test if it will physically work as a toy, like what you have in Solidworks). Details are too be added and aesthetic tweaks can still be made. And that glossy surface render doesn't do the design any good because this is not meant to look good anyway.

    I think if you're complaining about this being not much of an update from the original toy, you're missing the whole point of this being a Masterpiece altogether. Like some people would even say, MP Star Saber wasn't much of the update to the G1 toy either. If you've owned G1 Star Saber you know they're right. But does it stop the Japanese fans from loving this Masterpiece figure to death?

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespy View Post
    This is still early stage of the CGI and it looks like to mainly work out the engineering and transformation (to test if it will physically work as a toy, like what you have in Solidworks). Details are too be added and aesthetic tweaks can still be made. And that glossy surface render doesn't do the design any good because this is not meant to look good anyway.

    I think if you're complaining about this being not much of an update from the original toy, you're missing the whole point of this being a Masterpiece altogether. Like some people would even say, MP Star Saber wasn't much of the update to the G1 toy either. If you've owned G1 Star Saber you know they're right. But does it stop the Japanese fans from loving this Masterpiece figure to death?

    Just my 2 cents.
    At what point did that become what the MP line us, though? MP1 was revolutionary in its synthesis of a classic design with updated engineering and gimmicks. MP3 was an update of a classic character with a modern design and choices. When did it become about just boring remakes with a bit more articulation? When did Generations become the place for innovation and Masterpiece stagnation?

    I say afain, if these are the limits of the CG model they shouldn't be promoting the toy with it. On the other hand, I wait to be pleasantly surprised by the prototype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zommael View Post
    At what point did that become what the MP line us, though? MP1 was revolutionary in its synthesis of a classic design with updated engineering and gimmicks. MP3 was an update of a classic character with a modern design and choices. When did it become about just boring remakes with a bit more articulation? When did Generations become the place for innovation and Masterpiece stagnation?
    Since MP 2.0 when show accuracy became the no.1 priority for Masterpiece I guess, and to produce the definitive figure for that certain character. So the degree of "update" varies greatly from one another.

    Better proportions and a show accurate/biologically correct gorilla face (which no toy so far has done right), and the surefire better articulation are update enough for me personally to buy this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespy View Post
    Since MP 2.0 when show accuracy became the no.1 priority for Masterpiece I guess, and to produce the definitive figure for that certain character. So the degree of "update" varies greatly from one another.

    Better proportions and a show accurate/biologically correct gorilla face (which no toy so far has done right), and the surefire better articulation are update enough for me personally to buy this.
    The definitive version of a character isn't 100% toon accurate. It is a blend of toon, toy and logical reasoning to give us the ultimate version of a character that we love. The perfect example of this is Devastator. If you want a perfect toon representation of Devi, a third party company made one:



    Ugly, ain't it. No one wants that in the MP line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespy View Post
    Like some people would even say, MP Star Saber wasn't much of the update to the G1 toy either. If you've owned G1 Star Saber you know they're right. But does it stop the Japanese fans from loving this Masterpiece figure to death?
    I personally strongly dislike the G1 Star Sabre toy. I think that it's really rubbish, even by 1989 standards. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear it was just some try hard Chinese or Korean "wannabe" brand.

    MP Optimus Primal does look a lot slicker and less chunky/cumbersome than the original toy. I guess as far as G1 to MP 'conversions' are concerned, it's arguably more on par with MP Grimlock and Star Sabre; the two existing MPs which are the most similar to their G1 toys. MP Grimlock was a toy that I was initially hesitant on getting -- I skipped the Takara version and got the Hasbro one locally a year later. And my MP Star Sabre was a freebie. So yeah, I'm still undecided about Primal at this stage.

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