Morning all...

[Bartrim]

Welcome to Ozformers... and thanks for creating an interesting thread to read straight up

[Autocon]

my understanding

the bots n cons were created by quints then primus put sparks in them and reconfigured them?

[GoktimusPrime]

I have no idea where you got that from.

According to the G1 comics, the Transformers were created by the God Primus and possess living sparks known as life essence or Primal essence. The term "Spark" comes from Beast Wars. When Primus created Cybertron and the Transformers species, he also forged the Creation Matrix from his own life essence - and thus the Creation Matrix was capable of creating new life - much like the AllSpark Cube, but not so sensitive. The Matrix's energy-code could also be manipulated (such as when Shockwave used it to create the Constructicons) and transferred between beings (such as when Optimus Prime transferred it to the mind of Buster Witwicky).

According to the G1 cartoon, the Transformers were created by the Quintessons as slaves and soldiers which they then sold off to their clientele. The cartoon was inconsistent as to how Transformers were actually living. The episodes "Divide and Conquer" and "The Autobot Run" stated that a Transformer would die if their Laser Core were extinguished. Transformers such as the Dinobots and Constructicons were built on Earth and there didn't seem to be any reference to these Transformers being imbued with living Laser Cores (Sparks)... they just seemed to be sentient self-aware (cogito ergo sum) robots but devoid of any reference to an actual "living soul." David Wise wanted to introduce an element of more serious science fiction to Transformers and thus introduced Vector Sigma who imbued life to the Stunticons and Aerialbots (and also absorbed the spirit of Alpha Trion). Oh yeah, for some unexplained reason Starscream's laser core became a ghost. Beast Wars has since retconned an explanation for why Starscream's Spark became a phantasm but it was never originally explained in the G1 cartoon.

[Autocon]

thanks for that

see if we can try and merge these two now

god primus created cybertron then the quints came and cliamed it for themsleves (unaware that the planet was a living being). quients created tfs and this gave primus an idea create sparks to give life to these robots. victor sigma was created to enable spark transfer and imbued life to the robots

???

there are two types of constructicon, the spark varitey which was on cybertron and the ones on earth which were drones. the ones on earth were created in the likeness of the cybertronian constructicons using earth vehicles which are similar to the cybertron ones

???


i was bored.....

[GoktimusPrime]

Feel free to start a new thread in the creative section if you want to write a fan-fic about it, and/or you can also submit your fanfic to the Lexicon.

[Sky Shadow]

According to the G1 cartoon, the Transformers were created by the Quintessons as slaves and soldiers which they then sold off to their clientele.

Except "some of the primitives"* and Unicron. Who were created by Primacron.

*Possibly including the animal cassettes and Sky Lynx. But not the Dinobots, Predacons, Terrorcons and Trypticon, whose origins we already know or can infer from other episodes.

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm talking about Transformers as a species rather than individuals. The Quintessons created the earliest generation of Transformers as slaves; said slaves revolted and went on to create successive generations of Transformers. The only Transformer from that slave generation known to have survived into G1-era was A3, aka Alpha Trion. In the comics Primus originally created 13 Transformers and gave the Matrix to Primon.

[Sky Shadow]

I'm talking about Transformers as a species rather than individuals.

I know; I'm saying that even though the animal cassettes and Sky Lynx are Transformers, 'Call Of The Primitives' implies that they're a different species with a different, non-Quintesson origin.

[GoktimusPrime]

Ah yes, one of countless plot inconsistencies in the G1 cartoon. Just another reason why I personally prefer the Marvel Comics as a source of G1 canon.