The Doctor Who thread

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twas no regeneration he merely used a small portion of regen energy.

Daleks speaking doich , pure gold!!!!

I haven't seen Torchwood season 2 yet, is it set after Dr Who season 4?

Where do the Sarah jane adventures tie in?

I dont like the flashy regenerations of the new series, i'd rather have a cool transformation effect then the voooooooooooooooosh fire vortex everywhere.

Romanna didn't regenerate multiple times she just shaped her body till she got the right 'shape'

I hope the new series make the Valyard appear, he apparently shows up between the 12th-13th regeneration

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I watched this series some time ago and I must say it was the best season yet! So many plot points from the very first episode onwards tied into the final. Very well written I think. However the thing I enjoyed most about the final... The preview for the Christmas Special: Industrial Revolution Cybermen. Oh yeah.

[GoktimusPrime]

I think that this was meant to be like a quasi-regeneration - the Doctor managed to hold himself back from fully regenerating. So it wasn't a full proper regeneration.

I fully agree with the Meta-Crisis thoroughly disproving the whole half-human thing for the Doctor though. I guess it effectively officially retcons the common fan-theory that the Eighth Doctor was suffering from post-regenerative trauma when he made the claim that he was half-human and that the Master was just downright fibbing when he made the claim... the dastardly villain that he is!!

Daleks speaking doich , pure gold!!!!

Yes! Still doesn't explain why the Daleks speak English at most other times when they're not in Britain though... e.g. on Skaro (-_-) I wonder what Dalekese sounds like.

I haven't seen Torchwood season 2 yet, is it set after Dr Who season 4?

It's set after this season.

Torchwood

Where do the Sarah jane adventures tie in?

Here

[Paulbot]

I haven't seen Torchwood season 2 yet, is it set after Dr Who season 4?

It's set after this season.

No it is not. Torchwood series two occurs before the end of Doctor Who series 4. The Doctor Who series 4 finale has big spoilers if you'd not seen all of Torchwood series two.

Yes! Still doesn't explain why the Daleks speak English at most other times when they're not in Britain though... e.g. on Skaro (-_-) I wonder what Dalekese sounds like.

I take it that most of the time we hear the Daleks talking English because they are around characters that the TARDIS is automaticaly translating for (loved the demonstration of that in the Pompeii episode!). Martha no longer has the TARDIS doing that for her so she heard the Daleks using German to speak to the locals.

David Tennant is widely considered to be one of the best-looking Doctors (rivalling Peter Davison (5th Doctor).

Damn straight.

12 regenerations? I'd say they could get around that with a bit of "it seems the limits the Time-Lords had on regeneration have ceased to be, since the Time War changed everything.."

Martha's fate is tragic. Boo! Martha was the best companion so far. I will miss her.

[Lord_Zed]

The last episode of Dr Who was pretty charged I usre enjoyed it. Although I heard rumours David Tennant was doing stage acting now, and so there will be a redcution in episodes next year.

(I'd recommend this actor, he's very convincing!).

Yep, he's one of the great mimics from Dead Ringers there's even a soundclip out there where he rings Tom Baker as Dr Who, and Tom Baker play along with him, turns out he rather fancied Davros.

Another multiple Doctor ep would be cool, maybe something a little like this http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=VQEmGC6VK8k

[GoktimusPrime]

No it is not. Torchwood series two occurs before the end of Doctor Who series 4. The Doctor Who series 4 finale has big spoilers if you'd not seen all of Torchwood series two.

Eep! I sit corrected!

[Gutsman Heavy]

Paul is on the money deffinetley before DrWho S4, Torchwood S2 is very good, much better than the patchy (imo) first season. Just wait and see what happens in it!

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twas no regeneration he merely used a small portion of regen energy.

No, that's the point. Reguardless of how much of the regeneration energy he actually used, a Timelord body can only generate 12 bursts of regeneration energy, and he had one of those 'bursts' in the final episode. It is irrelevant as to what happens to that energy (he used some and focussed the rest into his severed hand), the fact remains, his body has now used up one of his 12 bursts of regeneration energy, and as such, he is now the 11th Doctor (which spawned 2 hybrid human-timelords in the process).

I just feel that the writer threw it in as a cliff-hanger, promo concept, without realising that a regeneration is not a change of form, but a regeneration of the body from a cellular level to save a Timelord from dying - change of form is a side-effect, if they are conscious enough to choose to not to change - thus it counts as a regeneration in terms of previous regenerations.

1st regeneration - body was 900 years old, so probably was just dying from old age.
2nd regeneration - not actually dying, but forced regeneration by the Timelord council. (this one could be claimed to be like Romana's physical changes, and not an actual regeneration - but I think it was definitely stated as a full regeneration in addition to the physical change because the Doctor was very upset about it being done to him)
3rd regeneration - dying from cellular decay from exposure to radiation.
4th regeneration - dying from a fall.
5th regeneration - dying from a toxin.
6th regeneration - maybe dying from a head injury when he was knocked to the floor in the TARDIS.
7th regeneration - dying from gunshot wound and/or surgery on the wound.
8th regeneration - not shown/known
9th regeneration - dying from absorbing space-time energy from Rose.
(10th regeneration) - dying from being shot by a Dalek, doesn't change physical form though.

This wiki article also makes the mistake of saying that a regeneration is just a physical change, not a repair or resurrection of the Timelord, reguardless of a phyiscal change occuring:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_...#Regenerations

I just noticed that the actor himself picked up on this as well, wondering if this could be seen as using up one of his regenerations, but will be something they will probably worry about later. Footnote 18 - 'Now, whether this means the Doctor has used up one of his limited regenerations or not is a matter for some future debate, I suspect'

At least someone official has it on the record that this could/should count as a regeneration, because as I keep saying, a physical change is not required for a regeneration to save the life of a Timelord 12 times.

(can you tell that I'm obsessed about this... )

[Thanatos]

Haha you guys and your nerdiness...

So yeah... how awesome was the season finale :P

Can't wait to see where they go with it now. Martha was my fave companion but tbh I feel more for Donna's fate, back into the life of nothing on Earth where before she had the time-lord consciousness. Seems a bit rough.

Guess the next part they need to get into is River Song. That arc interests me to no end.

[GoktimusPrime]

You're on a board full of grown adults who play with toys dude. It's agiven.

I just noticed that the actor himself picked up on this as well, wondering if this could be seen as using up one of his regenerations, but will be something they will probably worry about later. Footnote 18 - 'Now, whether this means the Doctor has used up one of his limited regenerations or not is a matter for some future debate, I suspect'

At least someone official has it on the record that this could/should count as a regeneration, because as I keep saying, a physical change is not required for a regeneration to save the life of a Timelord 12 times.

Yeah, David Tennant himself is a long-time Doctor Who fan IRL. When Chris Eccleston played the Ninth Doctor, the ending credits had his character listed as "Doctor Who." David Tennant on the other hand insisted that his character be listed as "The Doctor," and not "Doctor Who" in the credits.

Yeah... I've always found it kinda lame out the Sixth Doctor regenerated into the Seventh Doctor after a mere bump to the noggin'. (-_-) Some fans have speculated that the Doctor was unhappy with this incarnation so when he slipped into unconciousness, he willed himself to regenerate. But yeah... strange how he'll regenerate after a tumble, but can stop himself from fully regenerating after being slain by a Dalek.

I think it's as you said, the writer was looking for an excuse to create an edge-of-your-seat cliffhanger without realising the impact that it may have for overall continuity. Blarg. Hopefully it'll be retconned later as Tennant eluded to.