First look at prime toy for tf5 line

[Seraphim Prime]

Doesn't look like a re-tool to me at all.

More like a proper re-visit on the AoE design a la RotF. Huge improvement overall on the Leader class figure in the AoE line for sure.

I agree - I don't think there's a single part there that has been shared between the two figures.

I think the issue with the AoE figures is, like the first movie figures, they were taken from early concept drawings and produced in a shorter time frame, which meant the likeness was not as accurate and the engineering simpler.

By the second film, the designers knew which characters were being carried over and were able to spend longer time designing to the final character models, and we got the figures that we did.

[doublespy]

I think the issue with the AoE figures is, like the first movie figures, they were taken from early concept drawings and produced in a shorter time frame, which meant the likeness was not as accurate and the engineering simpler.

By the second film, the designers knew which characters were being carried over and were able to spend longer time designing to the final character models, and we got the figures that we did.

True.

Probably also because the designers were hit with the "simplifying engineering" philosophy across the board (mainly the movies figures though). And it didn't help that the AoE designs were even more reality defying and unreasonable for toy engineering. It felt like they just plain gave up on some the figures...

[DarkHyren]

In hand image from TFW2005, apparently it's voyager sized.



It still looks like a downsized copy of AoE Leader Prime to me honestly...

[bassbot]

yeesh, ugly.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's definitely a new mould which looks less kibbley than the AOE Primes, but also looks simpler and less interesting. Although not surprising if it's a smaller/cheaper Voyager. I'm just generally not a fan of the AoE/FK Optimus Prime design and I'm happy enough with the second Leader figure from AoE so I'll probably skip this.

[doublespy]

It's definitely a new mould which looks less kibbley than the AOE Primes, but also looks simpler and less interesting.

I thought it should be more complicated by the looks of it.

You can't really beat the simplicity of a leader toy wearing the entire truck chassis on the back can you

[The_Damned]

Nice at least it makes it easy for me to save money.

[GoktimusPrime]

I thought it should be more complicated by the looks of it.

You can't really beat the simplicity of a leader toy wearing the entire truck chassis on the back can you

The first AoE Leader Optimus Prime is very much a backpackformer, but the second AoE Leader Optimus Prime does a better job in distributing more of the chassis along the shoulders and hips, using the panels to form the robot's armour. It's still got a backpack but it's significantly smaller than the first Leader. The second Leader Class Prime is probably as good as they can make a toy based on the ridiculous screen design which has most of Optimus Prime's truck mode being magically swallowed up into his lower back.

This FK Optimus Prime seems to be not much better than the first Leader Optimus Prime with much of the chassis on the back, and the back of the cab in the truck mode looks a bit odd. But it's probably as good as they could make it at a Voyager size and price point (again, it's no worse than AoE Voyager Galvatron). Ultimately I think that many of the AoE (and likely FK) toys are being hindered by the current kibble-free screen designs which are counter intuitive to being adapted into toys. Short of giving them a Masterpiece budget which would make these toys too expensive for the primary demographic market.