MP38 Supreme Commander Convoy (Optimus Primal).

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Pics via Dengeki Hobby:

[hYpNoS]

So he gets a new number just because of accessories and a paint job change.

And I would of gotten THIS over the current just because of those, greaaat

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So he gets a new number just because of accessories and a paint job change.

Just like MP-31, MP-37 etc... it's TT's MO for money making!

That said, I do like the minimalism of it, and it hits the right nostalgia spots for me!

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Listing up at Ami Ami:

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/det...=FIGURE-027226

[DaptoDog]

And with that my quest to complete the Masterpiece line is done.

[yoshi594]

i might be in the minority here...but i like it! it's a homage to the original toy! i was wondering where that alien mask went .

No idea why they didn't just do mp-32T(toy) or something like they did with the red alert anime version.

I hope that's not all the accessories thou...i loved the faces mp-32 came with!

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No idea why they didn't just do mp-32T(toy) or something like they did with the red alert anime version.

I hope that's not all the accessories thou...i loved the faces mp-32 came with!

The deco is primarily based on the BWII movie deco (which overlaps with the toy):

https://youtu.be/_F7C1gKnKfo?t=35m35s

Yeah, they should've at least included the bot mode screamy face, would've looked awesome compared to the original toy artwork:

[1AZRAEL1]

Cool and all, but I like my show accurate over this. Easily skipped for me. Now if they do a Burning Convoy version...

[GoktimusPrime]

Called it.

perhaps it will have a more toy-accurate colour scheme (e.g. black fur instead of grey, flat navy blue helmet instead of metallic royal blue etc.).

The reason it gets its own number is because it's a different character.

The original C-1 Convoy's tech specs and all supporting material (e.g. trading cards etc.) establish the toy as the same character as Convoy from Beast Wars (why would they do otherwise?). Contrast this with Convobat's tech specs which establishes him as a different character from Optimus Primal (i.e. Optimus Prime).

Also, Convoy from the BWII movie is the same character as Convoy from the BW series. The BWII movie was intended to be a crossover between BW and BWII, and BWII and BW Neo were meant to be "Expanded Universes" for Beast Wars. They were always meant to be in the same continuity, I've never read or heard anything from any official Takara canonical source which establishes them as separate continuities.

At most you could say that there are two universes: one where the events in the Canadian series exists but the events in the Japanese series don't, and one where the events in all series occurred. Similar to how there are two main universes in the G1 comics; Earth-91274 where only the events of the US comics occur, and Earth-120185, where the events of the US and UK comics occur. But Optimus Prime of Earth-91274 is the same character as Optimus Prime of Earth-120185, it's just that certain events like the Time Wars never happened for Optimus Prime of Earth-91274 (although things got a bit mucky when Simon Furman took over writing for the Marvel US comics and started tying in continuity with the UK comics; e.g. Matrix Quest ). So similarly the Japanese Beast Wars continuity is not meant to be an entirely separate one; not where BW Convoy ≠ Optimus Primal.

The Japanese BW continuity is much closer to the Canadian BW continuity than Japanese G1 anime continuity is to the US G1 cartoon continuity. As we all know, Japanese G1 divorced itself from US G1 after Season 3 (TF2010), taking a completely different direction and concept beginning with The☆Headmasters. Japanese BW never derailed Canadian continuity, it merely expanded on it. To say that Convoy in the BWII movie is a separate character from Optimus Primal is like saying that Anakin Skywalker in the Clone Wars series is not the same person as Anakin Skywalker in the movies. Okay, if you want to ignore the 'expanded universe' stuff, fine... but that's not to say that the expansion material is necessarily entirely separate from the prime continuity.

If you're saying that BW Convoy is a separate character (beyond being an alternate continuity's version of the same character), then I'd like to see some canonical evidence.

The deco is primarily based on the BWII movie deco (which overlaps with the toy)

I agree. While there are a few things which are drawn from the toy (i.e. Mutant head, flail weapon), the toy's deco appears to be mostly inspired by the cel animation model for Optimus Primal, as evidenced by things like:
* White eyes with black pupils; the original toy has entirely blue eyes
* Flat matte black fur; no attempt at emulating fur grain as on the original MP Beast Convoy toy. Granted they wouldn't ever be able to accurately emulate it with a tampograph as the original Optimus Primal toy has the fur beautifully sculpted onto the plastic.
* The chambray blue colour on the lips (the original obviously has no mouth)

I willingly admit that I'm tempted to. For me, Beast Wars has always been about the relation to character. For the longest time, I only ever collected the characters that appeared in the show.

The show isn't entirely essential for knowing the characters (that's what tech specs bios are for ), or for collecting some really great toys. Just out of curiosity, how did you decide which BW toys to collect before the show came out?

P.S.: Sorry if anything in this post sounds snarkier than intended - I'm typing in a rush as I'm about to head out. Peace!